ferncrestmotel
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posted on July 22, 2002 09:57:41 PM new
Supposedly, the Vatican is concealing a time machine device called a Chronovisor deigned and built by one of their own.
According to recent news accounts, it was comissioned to view the Crucifiction (you don't travel in this thing, but you can watch).
I'd love to hear what historical event posters think we should view next.
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ferncrestmotel
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posted on July 22, 2002 10:02:01 PM new
Before I get inundated . . . crucifixion . .
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kraftdinner
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posted on July 22, 2002 10:13:07 PM new
Yes, there's a book out about it. 
http://home.austarnet.com.au/livtrad/para.htm
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ferncrestmotel
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posted on July 22, 2002 10:21:38 PM new
Thanks for the link, kraftdinner . . .
So what past historical moment would you like to view with Father Ernetti's machine?
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kraftdinner
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posted on July 22, 2002 10:40:21 PM new
That's a really good question ferncrestmotel! I'll have to think about that. What would you pick?
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snowyegret
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posted on July 23, 2002 04:28:51 AM new
The Big Bang
You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
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Helenjw
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posted on July 23, 2002 06:14:34 AM new
Good one!
But the believers would not believe it.
Helen
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clarksville
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posted on July 23, 2002 08:20:22 AM new
A friend told me that one of the Catholic Cardinals or priest, about 10 years took a camcorder back to when Christ was dieing on the cross. The vatican is supposed to have this locked away.
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clarksville
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posted on July 23, 2002 08:44:52 AM new
[b]A strange but not very believable story has been making the rounds, and has been brought to my attention. Hot on the heels of other much more likely transgressions, the Vatican is being accused of concealing the existence of a time machine. It's called the "Chronovisor" and was built in the 1950s by a Benedictine monk named Father Pellegrino Marcello Ernetti. Though, unfortunately, no plans nor photographs of this machine exist, it's said that with it Ernetti filmed Christ's crucifixion, reconstructed acoustic events such as Quintus Ennius' tragedy Thyestes in the original Latin from a performance in 169 BPE, and recovered the original text of the Ten Commandments given to Moses, all for the edification of Vatican officials. My, my!
In 1956, the story goes, Father Ernetti began to investigate the possibility of reviewing the past with what was described as, "a television-like device." He died in 1997 without revealing the secret of the Chronovisor (drat!) but rumors are circulating that the Catholic Church is hiding a working model from the rest of the world, supposedly to keep it from falling into "evil hands." As proof, a Jesuit priest named Father Francois Brune believes the Chronovisor must exist because, he says, "Ernetti wouldn't lie about such things." Oh. Okay.
How does this marvel work? Well, Ernetti, who was a professor at the Venetian Benedetto Marcello Conservatory and Fondation Cini, as well as director of the Italian Conservatory of Religious Instruction for Men, said that he accomplished his research in collaboration with "twelve physicists." Again unfortunately, these scientists remain (double drat!) "anonymous." He claimed that he'd invented a method of recovering sound waves from the past and converting them into visual and acoustic reconstructions of history.
This is not at all a new concept in crackpottery. For decades there have been folks out there in Lalaland insisting that rocks can be split and the surface pulled under a pickup that will produce the sounds of dinosaurs, sounds trapped there when the rocks were forming. A hunk of cement similarly tested, however, does not give us traffic noises or conversations....
When we hear that Ernetti's work is favorably compared to the "Radionic Camera" developed in the 1950s by well-known quack George DeLaWarr, we can form a better estimate of the likelihood of its existence. The Radionic Camera was supposed to "image the past and the future," and DeLaWarr published photographs demonstrating the effect. The words "fuzzy" and "indeterminate" take on new and compelling meanings when used to describe these "photographs."
When we further learn that Ernetti claimed that his device detected and translated "waves that are inscribed on the astral sphere," we might have further insight into his thinking processes. [/b]
http://www.randi.org/jr/070502.html
What's interesting is this: As proof, a Jesuit priest named Father Francois Brune believes the Chronovisor must exist because, he says, "Ernetti wouldn't lie about such things." Oh. Okay.
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ferncrestmotel
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posted on July 23, 2002 09:54:07 AM new
I am fascinated by Sir Earnest Shackleton and the crew of the Endurance, so I guess I would like to view some of phenomenal things they accomplished.
I first read about him 20 years ago, and recently he has gotten some attention through television specials and a docudrama.
This guy kept his entire crew alive on the pack ice of the Antarctic after their ship was trapped in the ice, then sailed a small boat 1500 miles across open ocean, then hiked over a mountain range which had never been traversed, all without proper equipment.
Much of his expedition was actually filmed and photographed, but many images had to be left behind. I'd love to see how he managed to keep his men's spirits up when the outlook was so bleak.
Well, that would be one of many things I'd use the Chronovisor to view. How about you?
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clarksville
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posted on July 23, 2002 10:08:51 AM new
Yes, there are some historical events I would like to see or to experience again. If I had one ticket, though, I would choose to witness Babe Ruth hitting any of his homeruns.
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ferncrestmotel
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posted on July 23, 2002 10:18:01 AM new
Ruth smacking one would be cool.
I wonder if his homers were usually high looping balls or the kind that took off straight as a rocket and barely cleared the wall, like Jack Clark and Fred McGriff used to hit. Do you know?
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junquemama
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posted on July 23, 2002 10:40:34 AM new
When Lee gave it up in Gettysburg.Both
great Grandpas(mother&father) were with him.
Would have liked to have known them.
Oldtimersiskickinintoday.
[ edited by junquemama on Jul 23, 2002 10:41 AM ]
[ edited by junquemama on Jul 23, 2002 10:44 AM ]
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snowyegret
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posted on July 23, 2002 11:41:38 AM new
Mr. Snowy wants to see Woodstock again, and hopefully remember it this time.
You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
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aposter
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posted on July 23, 2002 12:32:54 PM new
Christian Crusades
Salem Witch Trials (and leading up to the trials)
Daily happenings on Thomas Jefferson's plantation, including Sally Hemming.
First time the Vatican found out they had to conceal and move the first priest who enjoyed little boys or girls. And the second time too. Must have been a shock! I would say U.S. but I understand many countries are involved so will just say the Vatican.
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gravid
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posted on July 23, 2002 01:14:03 PM new
I'd like to have a tape of the oval office straight through with captions. And one following each of the presidents through their time in public office. If it won't do sound there are lipreaders.
Also a tape of Hitler straight through with all his important conversations.
If you are going to do Christ do Paul also.
Would kinda like some snippets of what life was like in Africa before any Europeans and also anchient China and as far back as they can find people in Mesopotamia.
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NearTheSea
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posted on July 23, 2002 01:25:01 PM new
I would like to see the Last Supper and the Crucifixion, but I'm sure I could think of a million other things
[email protected]
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aposter
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posted on July 23, 2002 01:32:33 PM new
Pequot War (before, during, after)
The day George & Barbara found out Junior was to run for President. I always thought Barbara seemed very sensible.
War of 1812 trek of Laura Ingersoll Sicard
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saabsister
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posted on July 23, 2002 01:41:26 PM new
I'd like to be a fly on the wall when Marcel Duchamp introduced "Fountain" to the art world.
http://www.sfmoma.org/collections/recent_acquisitions/ma_coll_duchamp.html
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ferncrestmotel
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posted on July 23, 2002 04:51:42 PM new
Those are some cool ideas!
I'd also like to watch the goings-on in Roswell, NM some 50 years back . . .
Hey, aposter -
Pequot War? I must have been sleeping in class that day . . . what was that?
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snowyegret
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posted on July 23, 2002 05:17:24 PM new
I wonder if they fight over who gets the remote?
You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
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aposter
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posted on July 23, 2002 07:41:35 PM new
ferncrestmotel,
The Pequot War was in the early 1600s. The Pequot were upset about being squeezed off their land by the Mass. Bay Colony.
The Puritans slaughtered about 700 indians, including children, in their village after problems from both sides. They caught almost that many later and sold them into slavery in the West Indies or used them for household labor.
The internet has some interesting stuff.
Adding: I don't remember my history books having more than a sentence or two. My grandfather was from the Mass Bay Colony so I have read a little about the war. It is probably one of the events our leaders would rather not have us read about. 
[ edited by aposter on Jul 23, 2002 07:46 PM ]
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REAMOND
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posted on July 23, 2002 07:48:58 PM new
I would like to watch Father Ernetti build his machine.
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ferncrestmotel
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posted on July 24, 2002 09:36:14 AM new
Thanks for the scoop on the Pequot War, aposter. The thought of Indians shipped off to the West Indies as slaves is chilling . . .
I am wondering if the Vatican would loan the Chronovisor to the U.S. to locate Bin Laden and Saddam . . .
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gravid
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posted on July 24, 2002 11:12:39 AM new
To be able to look into the past you usually think of years and years. A second ago is the past. It would be for all practical purposes a look at anywhere now machine.....
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