posted on July 31, 2002 11:24:52 PM new
This time, since Americans were killed, Bush did NOT call for restraint on the part of the Israelis in retaliating. It's about time!
There was an invasion of the sanctuary of academic space ... inhabited by Arabs and Jews, Christians and Muslims and people all around world. And it is a despicable act that deserves the right kind response, such as the end to terrorism.
I'm not sure what the ambassador meant by that. A successful terror attack will not satisfy Hamas. Evidence the parades and celebrations in West Bank and Gaza. There is more than one way to interpret the ambassador's remark.
This type of attack, upon a university open to people of all faiths and nationalities, brings the intefadah to a whole new level. I think Israeli reaction to this attack will be something quite different. Not necessarily in scope of violence (though I expect the retalliation will be very violent), but in terms of long-term results.
It should be obvious by now that the Palestinian Authority will do nothing to stop terror in Israel. Arafat will not yield. The Bush administration will not lift a finger. Bush is too busy trying to find the middle of the fence. Israeli tactics of surrounding Arab towns and imposing curfews have not worked. The U.N. also has done nothing to mediate the problem. The "calvalry" will not come riding over the hill.
Israel must close the Jewish settlements immediately, by force if necessary. They can not be defended. It must close the borders to Palestinians. Ten thousands Palestinian workers entering Israel daily is incompatible with security. If the Palestinians starve, so be it. They bite the hand that feeds them. A buffer zone must be created and enforced by Israel, including removing Arabs from East Jerusalem. Israel must realize that the time is not right to seek peace. It must make its own peace. Israel should take a cue from Bush's tough talk and understand that those civilians who harbor terrorists are equally guilty of the attacks. Israel must take matters into its own hands and stop allowing itself to be used as a pawn by America and the Arab nations.
I know Israel would like nothing better than a peaceful co-existence with its neighbors, but negotiating at gunpoint is not the answer. I believe the Israeli resonse this time will be something altogether different.
posted on August 1, 2002 09:45:52 AM new
I can't understand this attack. The only hope and sympathy the Palestinian Arabs had left was with the Israeli youth......and they killed them.
I was reading a statement somewhere, I think by Michael Moore. Basically, among all the races of the world, Arabs and Jews are the only two who, in additon to inheriting their heritage, inherit the hate for each other. Part of their parents' legacy....
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posted on August 1, 2002 09:58:48 AM new
The palestinians have always and specifically attacked the "young". It's part of their goal of genocide toward the Jews dating back to their participation and collaboration with the Nazis in WWII. Simply put, destroying the "young" is a means of "population control", and by the same token that palestinian women have the among the highest birth rate in the world (of course then they can complain to the world how they can't feed and educate them). Now you know why Israel won't agree to "right of return". It would be the end of the "Jewish State" and the Palestinians know this. 700,000 palestinian refugees in 1947 has grown to 5 million in 2000. But then, it's not "pc" to examine that part of the equation, is it?
posted on August 1, 2002 10:44:12 AM new
A leader of Hamas also stated after the bomb attack that the bombing won't stop until all the Jews go back to the countries they came from. A Palestinian state isn't going to change anything.
I am also beginning to think that these terrorists are not fringe elements nor mere radicals. I believe that the rank and file Arab world supports these acts and goals. A small Palestinian monority would appear to be the only ones that want peaceful coexistence.
At some point Israel with have to react like the house in the Amityville Horror movie with a stern and scary voice saying to the Palestinians "GET OUT". Israel will be forced to push the Palestinians into Jordan, Syria and Lebanon- and send Arafat back to Egypt where he came from.
And the Israelis have been doing the same thing to the Palestinians. Yet I would suppose they call it "relocation". They learned that from the Americans and our treatment of the Native Americans. It was very effective genocide on the American Indian. However, those annoying damn Palestinians JUST WON'T DIE Dammit!
Oh, and the hate and fighting and attempted genocide. It has been going on for thousands of years on both sides. Ever since the Jewish Nation first arrived in Palestine and God commanded them "Wipe those suckers out!"(Yes, that is in the bible, well maybe not those words), not just drive them out.
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Reality is a serious condition brought on by a lack of alcohol in the system
posted on August 1, 2002 11:07:11 AM new
They have the means but not the will to do so. My reaction to thousands of people in the streets celebrating those deaths would be to lay a line of cluster bombs down the middle of the party and say "Celebrate that."
posted on August 1, 2002 11:40:29 AM new
mlecher- The Israelis have never treated the Palestinians like the American Indians were treated, nor attempted genocide.
The "relocation" was not done as a civil matter, but the result of the wars started and carried out by the surronding Arab nations and the Palestinians trying to destroy Israel.
The Palestinians have enjoyed better civil and legal rights in Israel than they could or have received in any Arab country. The current state of the Palestinians is purely due to the Palestinians starting and losing the wars.
The West Bank used to belong to Jordan. When war broke out and Israel started winning, the Palestinians retreated into Jordan. Jordan then ceded the West Bank to Israel. Not because they lost the war, but because Jordan didn't want the Palestinians in their country. The Palestinians were marched out of Jordan into the West bank at the end of a Joradnian bayonet. The refugee camps there are in existence purely because Syria, Egypt, Jordan, and the Plaestinians declared war on Israel and they lost.
Israel has every right to destroy and take the land from those who have vowed to kill them. But Israel has showed great restraint and compassion for over half a century now. Israel has given back much more land than they now hold. I just wonder how much longer before that well of compassion runs dry.
