posted on November 17, 2002 05:25:07 PM new
While I've read quite a few of the Public Knowledge compliations of Who Weaseled Out of Service or Went A.W.O.L. or Flat-out Deserted, this looks like the best one so far!
It is unfortunate (fortunate?) that AW's messgaeboard isn't set up to show Tables. So I'll just have to give you the URL instead.
So, if you are PROUD to be a Republican, you are really saying that you are Proud of COWARDS! Republican Politicans = Cowards! Only a few Republicans in Congress actually serve the Public in Washington and THOSE are the ones that have actual service to this country AND the GOP turns against them all of the time! What a S*H*A*M*E it is to be a "Republican"!
[What? You don't like the Facts? THEN DON'T VOTE COWARDS INTO OFFICE! Then you can actually be PROUD - not just sound STUPID and IGNORANT of being Proud of COWARDS!]
posted on November 17, 2002 05:39:46 PM new
And at the head of the list should be that inbred, immoral, redneck, democratic Arkansas hillbilly. You know, the one that RAN away to England to avoid being drafted in 1969.
I received a draft notice in 1969 & didn't run away to England or Canada or hide behind a educational deferment.
Was he better than me or any of the other 50,000 American males that received draft notices that year.
HELL NO.
He was just honing his BS (not bachelor of science) and PHD (piled higher & deeper) double speaking democratic rhetoric capability. Typical prerequest for running for a democratic elected office.
posted on November 17, 2002 05:47:15 PM new
Just wondering how all of those with birthdates of the early '40s could have "avoided" service in Vietnam.
Oh, and Reagan didn't avoid WWII. He joined the army in 1937 and left a lieutenant. His reserve status was activated in 1942 but because of defective eyesight was in a classification of unfit for duty overseas. He instead made films for the Army and was featured in bond drives, leaving a captain in 1945.
But hopefully some of the other info on the site might be valid.
posted on November 17, 2002 06:51:55 PM new
Please - Ronald Reagan! Some day, DeSqurrel, remind me to point out some sources about that. There's the "official" version for a lot fo RR's past, and then there's a LOT of evidence and papers that tell a different story.
My suggestion, is for you to write your comments to the The New Hampshire Gazette. I'm sure that they'd be happy for any correction OR send any corrections to you!
"The Army Air Forces stationed the popular movie actor Ronald Reagan in his hometown of Hollywood during World War II, assigned to making training films; he had no overseas assignments and few of the usual military duties."
posted on November 17, 2002 09:58:11 PM new
duhsquirrel:
"Just wondering how all of those with birthdates of the early '40s could have "avoided" service in Vietnam".
Hmm, that's a tough one. Lemme see. Vietnam conflict - officially 1961-1975.
krs born 1948 arrives RVN 1968, age 19.
Hmmm, for krs to arrive RVN @ age 19 in 1961 must be born 1941. right? Of course I'm right.
I wouldn't begrudge ANYONE a student deferment for being a Rhodes Scholar. It's quite an achievement to make that grade and is clear evidence that the deferment was not obtained through any nefarious means or used as a sleazy means to avoid service.
I believe the website was trying to infer these guys avoided the draft. Since the major build-ups were in the mid to late sixties, I can't see significant numbers of these mid to late twenties age guys being required to serve unless they were reservists.
posted on November 18, 2002 12:01:58 AM new
At eighteen years old I was the second youngest member of the basic training company that I 'attended' - the oldest inductee was 26 years old at the time in 1967 and several, if not the majority, were over the age of 22. Puts most all into the range, eh? And don't forget that a soldier is not immediately sent overseas after induction. For someone to participate in the buildups that you mention they'd have needed to already have been in service for a minimum of five months.
Though registration for the draft was required at age eighteen the actual drafting was not keyed to age but to classification. A college graduate might not be classified 1A until some (usually short) time after graduation, and any college attendee was defered until he stopped going to school. Any college attendee, however long his schooling, would of course be older by the time of induction.
posted on November 18, 2002 10:21:34 PM new
KRS, it's such a shame to have so many cowards and draft dodgers trying to put our young men and women in harm's way for what amounts to is an oil grab. I wonder if this list ever gets to the common grunt if he or she is going to actually go into battle and fight or just say screw-it! KRS, back in 'Nam, many of the officer corps was AFU. But if there was a President who was a Deserter making you guys go into combat, how would your morale have been? Instead of Johnson and Nixon, what if it had been Bush and Cheney sending in more and more troops and making them go out into the jungles to fight? How would you and the rest have felt about being told what was "right and wrong" by draft dodgers and cowardly deserters? What would it have been like? Would it have made a difference to you in any way, KRS?
posted on November 20, 2002 10:45:41 AM new
I suppose it's better to vote someone into office that lied under testimony, and had sex outside of marriage with their intern, and other women? That was a Democrat!
Sure Gore didn't weasle out of the war, he just got a cushy assignment, I think to bring the Captain coffee or something. That's a pretty noble way to serve the country.
But lets look at another Republican Senator from Arizona who was a POW who had the chance to get released early from prisoner camp but refused to leave his men behind.
Republican George Bush Sr was a fighter pilot.
While we're on the subject, Clinton did drugs, and turned around in his presidency to have a war on drugs. Go figure that hypocracy out!
