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 stusi
 
posted on January 1, 2003 07:51:47 AM new
A joint venture between Germany and China has produced the world's fastest and first "flying" train. The 250 MPH train uses magnetic levitation to run at a fraction of an inch above the tracks. As there have been numerous wrecks with grounded trains running at much slower speeds, I wonder if it is only a matter of time before one of these babies flies off the track into a populated building or other at risk area.
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on January 1, 2003 09:39:40 AM new

Why is everyone in such a hurry? lol.

Magnetic levitation trains can travel at speeds of over 430 kmh.The train, designed by Germans uses magnets to float above the tracks. It will be a lucrative deal for Germany, China and possibly France and Japan.

In a trip to an airport, which usually takes an hour by car, the train arrived in 14 minutes!

 
 Borillar
 
posted on January 1, 2003 03:34:22 PM new
stusi: a minor correction. This is not the first time that magnetic levitation will be used. It is the first time that it is a private, commercial venture.



 
 junquemama
 
posted on January 1, 2003 05:16:08 PM new
Back in the late 80s,A man(cant remember his name)Invented and had a working generator,useing magnets.He hit a brick wall, trying to get it "accepted" by the power companys.This is a website for magnetic use.

http://www.magneticenergy.com/finalgen.htm

Be sure to read the bottom of the page.....

 
 Borillar
 
posted on January 1, 2003 05:47:51 PM new
Like I once stated before, alternative energy resources and methods of generating electricity exist ~ even improbable ones. I designed my own and the theory seems quite sound. Of course, Squirrelly detractors have written it off, sight-unseen.

My idea is that an electrical generator could be made that produces more than it consumes in overcoming the friction that occurs during production. If the normal magnets used in an electrical generator were replaced with super-magnets, the power output would be enormously increased. That's a true fact: the more powerful the magnet, the more power you generate. A generator needs to spin to create electricity and there lies the friction. However, it is absurd to state the more powerful that the magnets are the greater that friction is created ~ right? Greater friction occurs if you want to spin the generator faster and that would need more power to keep it going. But increasing the power of the magnets neither causes nor alleviates friction and there you have a solution.

The solution is to use a battery device to power the spin of the generator. When the generator with the super-magnets produces more power than it takes to move the device, then the generator would take over, making it propel itself. Sounds like a perpetual motion machine, right?

Wrong.

Is a magnet, then, a perpetual motion machine? I ask that, because it does not move, does not have friction, does not consume, and yet it produces an electro-magnetic field that can be used as a form of energy to produce work.

Is a gasoline combustion motor a perpetual motion machine, simply because it produces more than enough power to move a vehicle? In the generator case above, the "fuel" is the fields generated by the magnets themselves. The only energy expended in the process is what is needed to make the generator spin and that can be manufactured and used to sustain the process.

Let's have Squirrelly-types try to find holes in this. On prior occasions, all that my idea received was a snort with no consideration as to the science behind it.



 
 junquemama
 
posted on January 1, 2003 06:58:10 PM new
Important long read,Earths magnetism theory, concerning health issues,aids,cancer,and changing weather patterns,Tornados,hurricans.
Why the ozone will not be replace it self or close again,The earth is hollow and not solid,The oil being taken out of the ground is part of the magnetic field.

http://www.magneticenergy.com/theory.htm

 
 profe51
 
posted on January 1, 2003 07:26:33 PM new
hollow earth??? the moon is slipping away because the planet is greasy??
anyway, I want the magnet space ship on that site...no, really...

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on January 1, 2003 07:55:32 PM new

I was amazed to see on the parts list that the magnetic space ship will be equipped with six comfortable chairs and a kitchen.
"When we love each other and the Universe we live in, the possibilities are endless." Remember that.

Helen




[ edited by Helenjw on Jan 1, 2003 08:41 PM ]
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on January 1, 2003 08:18:46 PM new


The entry door is about ten feet above the landing pad and a portable extension ladder is needed in order to board the craft. When the craft takes off, the latter is simply left on earth.

Helen

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on January 1, 2003 09:12:37 PM new



 
 junquemama
 
posted on January 1, 2003 09:40:47 PM new
Thats it? Thats all either one of you came away with? Nothing about the compressed magnetism data? Who proved the earth solid?
The earth was considered flat at one time...(before my time.) Im into magnets,......Thats my storey and Im sticking to it.

 
 Borillar
 
posted on January 1, 2003 10:53:27 PM new
OK. So no one will fall for it. I give up.



 
 junquemama
 
posted on January 1, 2003 11:21:08 PM new
Nothing to give up Borillar,Its magntic theory.It sounds workable,and is the site with the magnet generator.If the earth is hollow, as the man says in his artical,Who has disapproved him? Our scientists,and meteorologists,have said the earth has shifted axis,and that is the blame for our weather patterns going screwy .The moon slipping from a gravity pull would not seem so out of place.(no pun intended)Anything that will get us out of fossil fuels,I am willing to hear.I am also willing to hear why, the theorys from that artical can be disapproved.Curiosity,nothing more.

 
 profe51
 
posted on January 2, 2003 04:47:29 AM new
junquemama:

Here's an explanation of the moon's increasing orbit..it was first observed in the late 17th century by Halley, long before there were oil spills.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=124

Interestingly, Halley also proposed the hollow earth theory, which became very popular in
his day. Here's a little history of it.

http://www.unmuseum.org/hollow.htm

Here's a brief explanation of mainstream geology's understanding of the composition of the earth's core:
http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/GG/ASK/earths_core.html

And here's a little more about some interesting modeling done to examine the core and how it behaves.


http://www.psc.edu/science/Glatzmaier/glatzmaier.html

The site you linked to is very interesting. I am always a bit leery of theories that mix fringe science with new age mysticism and government suppression...Of course we need to face the issues of global warming and our dependence on fixed fossil resources.Since I'm not a geophysicist, I can't begin to prove the ideas on that page wrong, but that doesn't make them right either.

Borillar, your generator sounds great. Not to diminish your originality, but why do you suppose no one has attempted to build such a machine before now?

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on January 2, 2003 06:31:51 AM new

junquemama

Absolutely hilarious!!!

I encourage everyone to explore the links to this web ring while you magine a happy face after each sentence. Notice the suggestion on the lower left of some pages to "Download this site and explore it free and "quietly"....perhaps without laughing out loud?

from the quotes...

"There are two ways of being mistaken : one is to believe what is not, the other is to refuse to believe what is."

Sören Kierkegaard



Helen

 
 junquemama
 
posted on January 2, 2003 09:03:45 AM new
Prof. Ha! Now I am wondering if the sheer test can measure a void or air.

"Third, by examining a second type of seismic wave (a shear wave, that is equivalnet in motion to a back and forth rubbing of one's hands together) we know that the outer part of the core is liquid, even though it is at immense presure from being underneath so much rock. Shear waves can't travel through liquids."

20 years ago,I witnessed something in the sky, while standing watch, on the wing of a ship.I've told this storey before, in here,and the episode, is just as vivid as it was 20 years past.I heard a powerful generator,and it made no noise,A cloud shot across the sky in a stright line,I knew the inside of that cloud was turning.(This was on a clear night.)I know the sound of generators,I helped start many of them,Put them on line(power up)and shut downs for maintance.Our power sources are primative to what I witnessed that night.
For some reason,The magnet theory,and generators make sense, of what I saw that night.Its a connection,I have no explanation for.
I believe this power, has been in use a long time.And I believe it would not beneifit those in power, if we were to find an other outlet for transportation,and fuels for power plants.

 
 junquemama
 
posted on January 2, 2003 09:08:34 AM new
Helen, He who laughs last...Gets stuck on the planet Krypton.

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on January 2, 2003 09:25:41 AM new


Hahaha...with Superman!



 
 junquemama
 
posted on January 2, 2003 09:44:37 AM new
Helen,No,Superman was the only person,,,who made it off the planet Krypton,before it blew up.Of course later on,(teenage years)Super-dude found out about his female cousin,Supergirl,Who made it off the planet in time.Pieces and rocks of the planet called Krypton,called Kryptonite was deadly to both heros.

 
 junquemama
 
posted on January 2, 2003 09:57:38 AM new
Well hell! Ive missed my calling!
Proficeint in comic book history, and can be
a interpreter for Dyslexia.


 
 Borillar
 
posted on January 2, 2003 01:52:26 PM new
>Nothing to give up Borillar,Its magntic theory.It sounds workable,

Thanks, junquemama. I got my idea when I read an article about how manufacturers were now able to produce supermagnets for mag-lev trains and other applications. Since I have a simple AA degree in Electronics, I recalled that the energy expended to produce electricity from a generator was used in overcoming friction in propelling the shaft to spin about inside the generator. It was obvious to me that if the mass of the magents were the same, but the magnetic fields were increased, one could expend the same amount of energy to produce the electricity, but the amount of electricity produced would be increased.

What if it were drastically increased? I mean, what if (here's the fun part) the amount of electricity produced by the generator actually exceeded the input needed to turn the spindle? Wouldn't there be a +plus electrical amount? If so, then once started up, this motor could feed itself AND generate surplus electricity, perhaps to power a car or home!

Unfortunately, how does one come by these "super-magnets" to test this theory out? To test this theory out, you would have to get ahold of those super-magnets and build them into a conventional spinning electrical generator and then hook it all up and measure input versus output.

Of course, like I said, how does one get ahold of these super-magnents and do they cost less than a million bucks apiece? Right?

So, I have asked, now and in the past , the readers here on the RT to comment on it, to give some ideas or insights. Instead, all I got was mockery and told (through total ignorance) that I was referring to a perpetual motion machine, which, as I have explained it, it clearly is not.

I guess no one has any good ideas. Thanks anyway.


[ edited by Borillar on Jan 2, 2003 01:53 PM ]
 
 kcpick4u
 
posted on January 2, 2003 02:37:36 PM new
I recall reading a article a number of years ago describing a generator that a fellow had built in his garage. The rotor on the generator rode on a magnetic field that it developed once the rotor maintained a certain rpm level. Thus eliminating the problems of mechanical wear and friction. I believe he was denied a patent for his device.

 
 
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