posted on August 13, 2003 02:39:59 PM new
"If the American people fully knew what this war in Iraq was really about, if they fully knew what it means today to be a soldier in that part of the world, they would tear the White House apart brick by brick. If the people had but a taste of the horror and the lies, they would repudiate this administration and all it stands for. They don't know, because they have been fed a glutton's diet of misinformation and fraud." - William Rivers Pitt
posted on August 13, 2003 02:59:55 PM new
So....we're not supposed to keep bring up recent things clinton says or does, but your side can keep going back the Vietnam era. lol
posted on August 13, 2003 03:06:15 PM new
Cheryl,
I thought you were a little brighter then the rest of the Sheeple. My mistake.
Amen
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
posted on August 13, 2003 03:24:35 PM new
Well, you have apparently touched a nerve with that story, Cheryl. It's not about the Vietnam era. It's about misinformation and fraud. Of course you need to read more than 2 paragraphs to know that.
And it's really funny when one of the clowns passes judgement on your fine intelligence.
These are good questions...from the article.
Our values. That's an interesting concept coming from a member of this administration. We make much of the greatness and high moral standing of the United States of America, and there is much to be proud of. The advertising, however, has lately failed completely to match up with the product.
Is it part of our value system to remain on a permanent war footing since World War II, shunting money desperately needed for human services and education into a military machine whose very size and expense demands the fighting of wars to justify its existence?
Is it part of our value system to lie to the American people, to lie deeply and broadly and with no shame at all, about why we fight in Iraq?
Is it part of our value system to sacrifice nearly 300 American soldiers on the altar of those lies, to sacrifice thousands and thousands and thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq on the altar of those lies?
Is it part of our value system to use the horror of 9/11 to terrify the American people into an unnecessary war, into the ruination of their civil rights, into the annihilation of the Constitution?
Is it part of our value system to use that terrible day against those American people who felt most personally the awful blow of that attack?
Is striking first part of our value system?
Is living in fear part of our value system?
It is not part of my value system. It never will be.
This new justification for our war in Iraq is yet another lie, an accent in a symphony of lies. The values this administration represents play no part in the common morality of the American people, play no part in the legal and constitutional system we adore and defend. One of the worst things ever to happen to this country was allowing the people within this administration to use words like "freedom" and "justice" and "democracy" and "patriotism," for those good and noble words become the foulest of lies when passing their lips.
I guess I should have cut and pasted the whole story. You are right, it has nothing to do with the Vietnam War. Geesh, I thought more people than you or I would have bothered to read the article. My mistake. I guess I'll take Linda's swift departure as not wanting to know what the truth is. It seems for some walking around with their head in the clouds beats hearing the truth.
Cheryl
Power to the people. Power to the people, right on. - John Lennon
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posted on August 13, 2003 04:29:48 PM new
These few people do not represent the overwhelming number of Americans who have abandoned their allegiance to this administration.
Not a word about Vietnam...
For the record, the justification for war on Iraq was:
The procurement by Iraq of uranium from Niger for use in a nuclear weapons program, plus 26,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agents -- 500 tons, for those without calculators, is one million pounds -- almost 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents, several mobile biological weapons labs, and connections between the Iraqi regime and Al Qaeda that led directly to the attacks of 9/11.
None of these weapons have been found. The mobile weapons labs -- termed "Winnebagoes of Death" by Colin Powell -- turned out to be weather balloon platforms sold to Iraq by the British in the 1980s. The infamous Iraq-Al Qaeda connection has been shot to pieces by the recently released 9/11 report. And the Niger uranium claim was based upon forgeries so laughable that America stands embarrassed and ashamed before the judgment of the world. This is all featured on the White House's Web site on a page called 'Disarming Saddam.' The Niger claims, specifically, have yet to be removed.
posted on August 13, 2003 04:45:24 PM new
I get the distinct feeling that even if Bush were to be a man and admit he lied, they (those sitting on the right) would not believe even him. Somehow it will be the leftists and anyone else who opposes this administration that will have forced him to lie about lying. Sigh. . .
Cheryl
Power to the people. Power to the people, right on. - John Lennon
