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 Helenjw
 
posted on September 9, 2003 07:55:40 AM new

Fliers to Be Rated for Risk Level

In the most aggressive -- and, some say, invasive -- step yet to protect air travelers, the federal government and the airlines will phase in a computer system next year to measure the risk posed by every passenger on every flight in the United States.


The new Transportation Security Administration system seeks to probe deeper into each passenger's identity than is currently possible, comparing personal information against criminal records and intelligence information. Passengers will be assigned a color code -- green, yellow or red -- based in part on their city of departure, destination, traveling companions and date of ticket purchase.


Most people will be coded green and sail through. But up to 8 percent of passengers who board the nation's 26,000 daily flights will be coded "yellow" and will undergo additional screening at the checkpoint, according to people familiar with the program. An estimated 1 to 2 percent will be labeled "red" and will be prohibited from boarding. These passengers also will face police questioning and may be arrested.


How passengers will be checked


The TSA will check each passenger in two steps. The first will match the passenger's name and information against databases of private companies that collect information on people for commercial reasons, such as their shopping habits. This process will generate a numerical score that will indicate the likelihood that the passenger is who he says he is. Passengers will not be informed of their color code or their numerical score. The second step matches passenger information against government intelligence combined with local and state outstanding warrants for violent felonies.


 
 skylite
 
posted on September 9, 2003 11:22:11 AM new
will i have to wear my color on my sleeve, or as a arm ban..........
 
 Fenix03
 
posted on September 9, 2003 11:55:50 AM new
I think the US government is waging a war on the airlines.

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EU privacy 'blocking terror fight'

CERNOBBIO, Italy (AP) -- America's top security official has urged European leaders to cooperate with U.S. demands to share information on airline passengers such as names, place of birth and date of birth, saying European resistance was hampering anti-terrorism efforts.

Tom Ridge, secretary for homeland security, said the European Union's demand to protect passengers' privacy must be balanced by the right of those passengers to travel safely. He noted that the United States wasn't requesting information on health or religion.

Ridge pressed his point at a conference here of European political and financial leaders, raising an issue that EU officials have warned could lead to a new trans-Atlantic confrontation.

After the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the U.S. Congress passed a law requiring airlines to submit passenger data within 15 minutes after their plane departs for the United States. Before it lands, the information is checked against a combined federal law enforcement database.

The EU reached an interim agreement with the United States to implement the law in March, but there are fears that the legislation violates basic EU privacy standards.

EU law currently bans airlines from sharing the type of information sought except on a case-by-case basis, and the European Parliament has indicated it wants to scrap the interim deal altogether.

Ridge said he had asked the Italian interior minister, Giuseppe Pisanu, to use Italy's six-month presidency of the EU to persuade the bloc to come around to the U.S. position and develop a permanent common protocol for sharing flight information.

"One of the most significant challenges for the global community is to enjoy the safety of travelers and legitimate cargo, which means we need to work together to develop international standards," Ridge told reporters on the sidelines of the conference.

He said the United States had already made concessions to the EU to limit the type of information sought and ensure that it was used only for anti-terrorism controls, but said the Europeans had to loosen up on their demands too.

"Americans believe in the right of privacy as well," he said. "But let's find a balance between the right to privacy and the right to be secure in your travels, the right to live."

"We understand that the European Union has and does require us to show that it is going to be used for very limited purposes. We believe we've done that," he added.

The new U.S. law came into effect March 5. It requires airlines to provide the U.S. government with passenger details such names, phone and credit card numbers as well as meal choices.

Because of the EU law banning the sharing of such information, European airlines face fines of up to $6,000 a passenger and the loss of landing rights if they fail to comply.

The EU Internal Market Commissioner, Frits Bolkstein, warned Ridge in June that if negotiations to bridge the two laws failed, a "highly charged trans-Atlantic confrontation" could ensue.

The European Commission is set to meet with Asa Hutchison, U.S. undersecretary for border and transportation security, in Brussels on September 22 to try to resolve the differences.

If there is no deal, EU officials have said the EU would have to instruct national data agencies to stop sharing data with Washington and fine carriers that do so, leaving airlines caught in the middle.

Ridge said there was still "some time to go to reconcile our differences" but stressed that the United States was firm in its intention to move aggressively on the issue.

As an incentive of sorts, he said the United States fully intended to share the same type of passenger information on U.S. carriers with Europeans once formal standards are agreed upon.

"Looking at this request beyond just a data protection issue but as a mutual security issue is something that can help us get closer to resolving our diff
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 replaymedia
 
posted on September 9, 2003 02:03:00 PM new
I think it really depends on WHEN the checks are done.

If you can be checked out at the time you buy your ticket and if you are green, you just walk onto the plane (like pre-911 days) then great! It'll cut way down on the time involved in screening EVERYONE.

There aren't many 90 year old women or married people with kids that would carry a bomb onto a plane. Sure, it's technically possible, but not likely. Why slow down the boarding pass for everyone but strip-searching 90 year olds and little kids?

If it's not a benefit/convenience for the sake of speed, then no. It's an unnecessary invasion of privacy.

But I'm in the minority. I still racial profiling is OK for airlines. There are a LOT more middle-eastern-looking terrorists than regular black & white "Americans."
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 replaymedia
 
posted on September 9, 2003 02:09:30 PM new
OK. I've read more on this.

It stinks big-time.
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 gravid
 
posted on September 9, 2003 02:10:06 PM new
Yes but strip searching 90 year olds is the price of freedom.
I can just picture Bush saying that in a speech.
It allows government to show they are not prejudiced - they hate us all of us little powerless people.
Maybe the government really has a long range plan to end air travel? Or even freedom to travel period.............

 
 
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