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 gravid
 
posted on January 2, 2004 03:22:34 PM new
Just reading about how the Air France flight was cancelled because there were a few folks on there that had names similar to some (supposed) terrorists.

I predict within 2 years they will have a system of airtravel permits just like a driver's license or a passport that you have to have with an ID number or you can't book a seat on a commercial airliner.

They can only cancel so mant flights before they have to acknowlege the current system isn't working and people will stop flying if they are hassled too often.

One of the terrorists was a 5 year old and two others were an older Chinese couple - how many times would you be falsely imprisoned for hours and interrogated before you'd say to hell with flying?

 
 fenix03
 
posted on January 2, 2004 04:27:19 PM new
There is a guy in Northern California that goes thru it on a weekly basis and his sons wrestling team goes thru it every time they have to fly to a meet because their name sets off the alarms even though it is only a few letters and nolt the whole flagged name. The whole wrestling team is flagged because if a single name is flagged in a group reservation the entire group gets to go thru checks. They learned to start showing up for the airport up to five hours before their flight because of it.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on January 2, 2004 04:44:44 PM new

I'll have to avoid flying. My husband just could not deal with that kind of harrassment.

The mysteries of the cancelled Air France flights:

1. From Reuters

"A U.S. official said 'credible, reliable' intelligence reports had been relayed to France saying extremist groups were planning 'near-term simultaneous attacks' that could be on a scale of the Sept. 11 attacks by Al Qaeda. The French intelligence service questioned a number of people, but found no evidence of membership in radical Islamist groups among them. The only person named by U.S. intelligence as a suspect, a Tunisian man with a pilot's license, was still in Tunisia and had no apparent plans to leave the country, the French source said."


2. From The Telegraph

"A French judicial official said the name of a Tunisian national with a pilot's licence had appeared on the American list of suspicious people who might attempt to board a flight. But French intelligence officials determined that the man was in Tunisia and had no plans to leave the country.

The official added that the Tunisian had no criminal record and did not belong to any Islamic radical groups."

MORE At xymphora


 
 gravid
 
posted on January 2, 2004 04:51:24 PM new
I suppose someone has considered that all these groups need to do to bring the whole air transport system to a halt is send a bunch of e-mails and phone calls back and forth to each other saying - "Be on flight such and such my brother and six others will be there to help with the Jehad." Or something similar....

 
 profe51
 
posted on January 2, 2004 10:11:01 PM new
I don't like airplanes....ain't natcheral...
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The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.
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 gravid
 
posted on January 3, 2004 04:47:33 AM new
If God had meant us to fly he would have given us wings instead of wheels.

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on January 3, 2004 05:57:48 PM new
Airline workers unsure where to report suspicious behavior

Also....

Missing Keys At U.S. Nuke Labs

(CBS/AP) The Energy Department is conducting a widespread review of security at America's nuclear weapons laboratories after reports of hundreds of missing keys, some of which could allow access to sensitive areas.

Sources tell CBS News that lock and key experts will begin visiting all U.S. nuclear labs next month to assess the problem of missing keys and apparent security lapses, reports CBS News Correspondent Sharyl Attkisson.

The review follows reports last summer that a government facility known by its World War II code name "Y-12" had reported "a number" of keys missing.

In fact, 200 keys were missing.

cont...

 
 stonecold613
 
posted on January 3, 2004 11:20:10 PM new
Helen, do have even have a husband any more? I know no one that wastes more time on the computer looking for more worthless information than yourself. Not even auctiondoofus is that much of a blowhard. All I have to say is:



 
 bunnicula
 
posted on January 3, 2004 11:47:40 PM new
That was more than a little rude.
Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on January 4, 2004 06:09:29 AM new

[i]"All I have to say is blah, blah, blah."[i]

Your contribution is noted, sweetheart.



 
 Helenjw
 
posted on January 4, 2004 06:49:31 AM new

6.
"With locked cabin doors, possibly armed pilots, and armed sky marshals, not to mention lots of beefed up security at boarding and a prohibition against any kind of potential weapons, what are the terrorists going to do to take over a plane if they are going to use planes in the next attack?

One hint of what the next attack might look like is the destruction of the plane by bomb when it is flying upwind of a large city, with some sort of polluting material, possibly radioactive, in the luggage compartment. This would require no action on the plane itself. Unless the Americans have absolute control over all luggage handling in every airport in the world, I don't see how this could be stopped, but I also don't see this as much of a real risk to the population, although it may have big psychological effects before an election."
xymphora


 
 
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