plsmith
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posted on February 15, 2004 07:33:55 PM new
University Student Group Offers Scholarship to Whites Only, Seeks Photo Confirmation
The Associated Press
Published: Feb 15, 2004
BRISTOL, R.I. (AP) - A student group at Roger Williams University is offering a new scholarship for which only white students are eligible, a move they say is designed to protest affirmative action.
The application for the $250 award requires an essay on "why you are proud of your white heritage" and a recent picture to "confirm whiteness."
"Evidence of bleaching will disqualify applicants," says the application, issued by the university's College Republicans.
Jason Mattera, 20, who is president of the College Republicans, said the group is parodying minority scholarships.
"We think that if you want to treat someone according to character and how well they achieve academically, then skin color shouldn't really be an option," he said. "Many people think that coming from a white background you're automatically privileged, you're automatically rich and your parents pay full tuition. That's just not the case."
The stunt has angered some at the university, but the administration is staying out of the fray. The school's provost said it is a student group's initiative and is not endorsed by Roger Williams.
Mattera, who is of Puerto Rican descent, is himself a recipient of a $5,000 scholarship open only to a minority group.
"No matter what my ethnicity is, I'm making a statement that scholarships should be given out based on merit and need," Mattera told the Providence Journal.
His group took out a full-page ad in last week's issue of the university's student newspaper to tout the scholarship, which was for $50 until two donors came forward to add $100 each during the weekend, Mattera said.
It's not the first brush with controversy for the group. The school temporarily froze the Republicans' money in the fall during a fight over a series of articles published in its monthly newsletter. One article alleged that a gay-rights group indoctrinates students into homosexual sex.
Which just proves that Republicans are BORN crazy...
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trai
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posted on February 15, 2004 07:45:41 PM new
No matter what my ethnicity is, I'm making a statement that scholarships should be given out based on merit and need,"
We think that if you want to treat someone according to character and how well they achieve academically, then skin color shouldn't really be an option,"
Thats the way it should be.
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plsmith
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posted on February 15, 2004 07:52:44 PM new
Follow that line of thinking a little further, Trai. Rich idiots should find no slot in the country's most prestgious schools just because their daddy can pay the tuition, right? Especially after the rich idiot kid has been caught driving under the influence?
Or are you talking about some other kind of character and academic achievement?
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fred
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:08:31 PM new
"Especially after the rich idiot kid has been caught driving under the influence"
Many poor idiot kids have been caught driving, diving & kicking butt under the influnence. My self inclued.
Fred
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Helenjw
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:13:21 PM new
But this scolarship is clearly racist since only whites are eligible to be considered.
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trai
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:13:41 PM new
Or are you talking about some other kind of character and academic achievement
Yes I am. You know the type where you work hard at it and you get the slot in school because you deserve it.
I have always felt that grades should count for something and not just because you can afford it or you are the quota of the month.
mind you I feel the same about some sport jock getting in and having the I.Q. of an amoeba where some one who has the grades gets left out.
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plsmith
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:15:15 PM new
"... under the influnence. My self inclued. "
You under the influence now, Fred? 
My point was, if character and academic achievement are the two standards by which universities are to determine who matriculates on in, how was it justified for George W Bush to go to Yale? Surely his test scores and party boy lifestyle were more suited to community college...
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trai
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:23:36 PM new
But this scolarship is clearly racist since only whites are eligible to be considered.
Why?? There are colleges for black americans only. So why is one o.k. but if some anglo saxon does it its racist.
That's one term I find gets thrown around way too often. Do not ever forget this....to be a racist does not mean you have to be white.
They come in all colors and back grounds.
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gravid
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:28:53 PM new
One of the things that was said here in MI to excuse racial preferences was that grades were a poor indicator of if a student would do well in college.
The amazing thing was that nobody suggested that perhaps the grading system should be changed if it was useless from a practical view.
That would be too great a leap for the little minds.........It's a tradition to assign meaningless numbers so we shall always do so!
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plsmith
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:32:48 PM new
You have to admit though, Trai, that whities are really good at it...
Gravid, living so far outside the box as you do, it's a wonder you don't go plumb slap nuts...
Now, what about Georgie???
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Helenjw
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:36:58 PM new
Why?? There are colleges for black americans only. So why is one o.k. but if some anglo saxon does it its racist.
We are not talking about an all white school. This particular school is not all white.
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Bear1949
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:47:38 PM new
trai
Excellent comment.
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Helenjw
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:49:11 PM new
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trai
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:49:46 PM new
University Student Group Offers Scholarship to Whites Only,
This particular school is not all white
Im only talking about the headline not about if this school is mixed or not.
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plsmith
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:50:06 PM new
See, Helen?
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Helenjw
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:53:19 PM new
Yes, I see.
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trai
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:54:37 PM new
You have to admit though, Trai, that whities are really good at it...
Far from it, there are others who are masters at it.
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fred
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:54:53 PM new
Pat those requirements were dropped at Yale long before President Bush got his turn to pass the Thunder bird. I was to partial to Ripple my self.
Fred
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Helenjw
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:57:09 PM new
Why?? There are colleges for black americans only. So why is one o.k. but if some anglo saxon does it its racist.
So, if we assume that the school is all white then their effort to make the point that merit scholarships based on race is unfair is rather difficult...isn't it?
[ edited by Helenjw on Feb 15, 2004 08:58 PM ]
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plsmith
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posted on February 15, 2004 08:58:50 PM new
I was a Red Mountain girl myself, Fred
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fred
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posted on February 15, 2004 09:07:29 PM new
Red Mountain? isn't that a winery in Washington State?..
Fred
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plsmith
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posted on February 15, 2004 09:10:47 PM new
Maybe it is now, Fred, but back when I was swillin' it the stuff came from a fat greenglass jug! glug glug and pass that reefer!
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trai
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posted on February 15, 2004 09:12:37 PM new
It should all be based on merit.. nothing else. This should not be hard to understand.
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trai
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posted on February 15, 2004 09:14:28 PM new
back when I was swillin' it the stuff came from a fat greenglass jug! glug glug and pass that reefer!
The good ole days....LOL
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Helenjw
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posted on February 15, 2004 09:19:24 PM new
It is based on merit...equal merit with a percentage of those students who are minority receiving a scholarship. Of course other factors are considered such as financial status, previous achievements etc.
Helen
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reamond
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posted on February 15, 2004 09:33:07 PM new
There are scholarships open only to blacks, just as there ars student organizations only for blacks.
The point of offering the white only scholarships is to point out the racism used in the black only scholarships.
Of course other factors are considered such as financial status, previous achievements etc
Race based admissions and scholarships do not take into consideration financial status or previous achievements.
That was the "rub" in the MI case. There were black students that came from very wealthy households, yet were given preference over whites due to skin color.
A poor white with superior academic credentials was being denied admission in favor of a wealthy black due to skin color.
Think about it. Colin Powell's or Bill Cosby's children will be favored for race based education entitlements over poor white or Asian students.
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plsmith
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posted on February 15, 2004 09:33:46 PM new
Were you there, Trai? Hey, were you the one who tried to swap me a bag of reds for twelve hits of acid? 
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plsmith
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posted on February 15, 2004 09:36:28 PM new
You think about it, Reamond: Idiot George W Bush took a slot at Yale that another kid with an excellent mind was denied because he didn't have the bread, or connections...
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trai
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posted on February 15, 2004 09:38:53 PM new
Ha, I think I was getting lucky that day.. just like everyday..LOL
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Helenjw
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posted on February 15, 2004 09:39:58 PM new
I'm sure that there are cases such as you mention, Reamond but that is not the norm.
Helen
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