posted on June 29, 2000 11:01:12 PM
I can't believe there hasn't been a guess-who's-next-off-the-island thread...or if there is I've been too busy and pre-occupied and missed it.
In any event, who is your bet for the next Survivor to get da boot?
I'm voting for Colleen, the ho who's doing the dude that talks into the coconuts.
posted on June 30, 2000 02:48:14 PM
Hi toomanycomics...I, too, have really enjoyed the "1900 House"...makes you think twice when longing for the "good ol' days" doesn't it? With all the flaws, I'd STILL much rather be living now than then...but what I'd REALLY like is to be around in about 500 years to see how it's all changed!
It seems to me that they kick someone off from a tribe a week. Have you noticed that? First one tribe wins the competition then the other. If that is the case then I will go out on a limb and predict the guy who talks on the coconut.
Glad someone else is into this. We really have lives, don't we?
posted on July 1, 2000 01:11:00 AM
Yes, Calamity-- I am noticing the same pattern...I think that Joel will be the next to go, even though he did a good job throwing the spear. I reserve the right to change my answer before Wednesday. I may come up with some incredible insight while taking a shower...
posted on July 1, 2000 08:02:48 AM
I read about that PBS series (1900 House). Does anyone know what time or day it is shown in the New York or Philadelphia area?
Re: Survivor - I, too, think they will boot another woman. Especially since last week a man got the boot. I wonder how it will play out when it is down to 4 people or less - will they get rid of the "tribes" and make it "every man/woman for themselves"? ...
I couldn't help but wonder and think when the pagong tribe won all that food - I would have at least thrown the losing tribe a couple of melons. I guess I would not survive in that kind of scenario
And I wondered if it is rigged for the ratings. Like, they may keep Colleen because it has added to the story line. is it on the up and up?
And I LMAO thinking of the cameramen chowing down on goodies while the "survivors" are dining on bugs and rodents. Colleen should be romancing one of them, at least she will eat well. Sex can only go so far when you're having hunger pains. And what are they doing for drinking water?
Any guesses on who will win the prize?
It seems all the women have already signed up for Playboy spreads so I guess everyone will come out with something.
One of the castoffs was on Letterman and told him that the head honchos had buried a big drum and put fresh water in it for them to drink in the middle of the forest.
Hadn't heard about the Playboy thing, though.
What about the men in Playgirl?
Surf4,
I reserve the right to change my mind, too.
I hope the winner is Rudy. They have been so nasty to him and he is such an old goat I get a big kick out of him.
posted on July 5, 2000 11:32:19 AM
I think it will be Sean-- the doc with the nipple ring.
We enjoy the show around my house. My 7 year old daughter is really into it. She doesnt like Susan and wants her kicked off. I can't stand Richard. Am rooting for Rudy myself
I watched some of the 1900 show. It was interesting. All I know is that I could NEVER have survived in one of those horrible corsets!
posted on July 6, 2000 06:46:05 AMnobs - you couldn't find it in your listings?
in my area, they are shown at 9:00 pm on mondays
bad news, PBS station didn't work
and I missed the final episode! $#!%!
so I called the station, (they weren't listed in the phone book so I got it from the 'net) and they said their transformer's out so they are going to reschedule
you know they are available on video
I often wonder if 'Survivor' is all an act
it's too well-staged from what I heard the one and only toomanycomics on AW!
posted on July 6, 2000 10:07:27 AM
I heard on the radio that people are betting in Las Vegas (and elsewhere, I'm sure) about who will make it. They said the strongest odds were on Gretchen, and that Gervase was the "long shot" at 50 to 1.
I wonder what camp they'll be in, too. Maybe they'll be required to move to a third, neutral location. That way they'd have to all work together to build a new shelter.
posted on July 6, 2000 08:16:53 PM
Well, heck. I thought this was going to be a thread asking for nominations for who should be stranded on a deserted island...
posted on July 6, 2000 11:32:14 PM
Well, This moving them together has me discombobulated. Phonics, anyone?
I would think that they would about have to build a new camp. I also don't understand why Gervice wasn't in the last competition.
I think Richard is the natural leader and might get voted out because of that.
I'm going to have to watch the next one before makng any predictions and see if they try to get rid of the strong or the ones not pulling their weight. I think we might start seeing some backstabbing now. I still want to get rid of the guy who talks on the coconut.
posted on July 7, 2000 10:02:54 AM
So who thinks we're actually going to make it to the end of the show without someone in the media spilling the beans about who wins? There's already a story in the news which indicates one of the people who made it to the "final four" by noting that this person spent 39 days on the island. I'd rather be surprised than know in advance.
posted on July 11, 2000 06:02:58 PM
Okay folks--- it is that time again!
My analysis of the combined tribes and the role each person plays in the tribe leads me to state that I believe the next person to be voted off the island will be....
drum roll....
Gretchen
I reserve the right to change my mind as usual, but that is the vote I cast to earn a chance for the truck!
posted on July 11, 2000 06:51:16 PM
Sad to say, but I agree it will probably be Gretchen. It is the strong who will go, as it was with Joel. I'm still trying to figure who is the most devious, as that will be the winner.
The 39 day theory means nothing as the final 9 come back at the end to vote.
posted on July 23, 2000 12:09:27 PM
Hey you guys!! I come here to read your predictions...Calamity has been right twice now ya gotta come back and tell me who you think will be next week. I may be a lurker mostly but I gotta know these things
Oddish~ The Odd One
Opps I think it was surf4 who guessed right.
[ edited by oddish4 on Jul 23, 2000 01:52 PM ]
Thanks for getting this going again. I thought it was terrible to put those videos on National tv and not go to Jenna's house and get one from her mother. That stank!
I predict that Rudy's group will get rid of the Dr., I think his name is Sean, this week.
They're going to keep Richard around to fish.
After they get rid of the strongest in the Tagoong tribe I think they will lose the truck driver lady. My prediction is that it will come down to Richard and Rudy in the end.
posted on July 23, 2000 02:02:51 PM
He was a little strange wasn't he? What was up with his video I tried to figure it out but got really lost but hey he seemed to like it and that's what counts eh?
I was crying with Jenna that was so sad. I can't believe they couldn't have gone and gotten one for her or a letter or something!
Thanks for coming back I wanted to yak at someone
I think I am going to predict well gesh I'm not good at this. Gervis seems to have made a few enemies but Colleen seems kinda easy to vote off. I will instead perdict it won't be Rich hehehehe
Oddish~ The Odd One
I've never watched a single episode of this program. The closest I get is on the news at noon the next day, when the CBS station I watch includes a mention of who got voted off the night before. Sometimes too I'll see a little something about it on "Extra" -- last week for instance they were profiling a very lazy fellow named Gervase who claims it is his function on the island to do lay around and do nothing.
But reading this thread I see something I didn't expect when I heard the premise of the show -- that the strong, natural leader types would be voted off. But it makes perfect sense. Since the strong leader types are outnumbered by the rabble, the rabble, out of resentment and perhaps jealousy, would vote together to eliminate the best competition.
But you see, that's the flaw with this show. If it were a true "sole survivor" situation, the strongest would kill the weakest, thereby eliminating the possibility of being ambushed from behind.
Of course, I could be wrong, for in maritime history there is at least one example where people were stranded together on an island and the most devious was the last one left standing.
Let's step into the Wayback Machine and travel to the year 1829, when the Irish barque Granicus was wrecked on the rocky isle of Anticosti at the mouth of the St. Lawrence River. Anticosti is 136 miles long and 35 miles wide.
The iGranicus had sailed from Quebec on October 29, 1828, homeward bound with lumber for Cork, Ireland. Early in November she was caught and wrecked at East Point on Anticosti. Every person aboard reached the shore safely.
Imagine their relief when the shipwrecked company found a sign directing them to a refuge hut a few miles away, which had been built on the island especially for victims of the treacherous waters off the island. They made their way to the hut, expecting that they could wait there till help arrived.
But cruel fate! Vandals had ransacked the hut at some point, and all the food stored there had been taken away by the keeper of the hut because it had spoiled after the vandals' raid. And he had never gotten around to bringing replacements out to the island before the bad weather struck.
The captain of the Granicus divided the food that was left over from the wrecked ship among the twenty-five survivors, and this they lived on for several weeks.
No one ventured out to the island until the following May. Perhaps the Granicus had never been reported missing by those expecting her in Ireland, or if she had, who knew where to look for her since in theory she could have gone down anywhere in the Atlantic between the St. Lawrence and Ireland.
But then along came Captain Basile Giasson, a seal hunter of great renown on the St. Lawrence. On May 28, 1829, Captain Giasson was sailing just off Anticosti Island at a location then known as Belle Baie (and now as Fox Bay). Since the wind was unfavorable, and his ship's water supply was completely exhausted, he dropped anchor there for the night.
Coming out on deck later, he noticed a ship's boat floating on the tide, and decided to row in and investigate. From the condition of the boat he guessed that it must have been there for months. Examining it, Captain Giasson noticed that the oars were placed neatly together and that clothing and other personal effects were scattered around the bottom of the craft. He decided to go ashore and investigate further.
He saw the house of refuge on a nearby cliff and with three members of his crew, Giasson landed his boat and walked up toward the hut. As they approached, the men shouted to attract the attention of anyone who might be near, but once the echo of their voices had died away, a deathlike silence fell on the bay. The place was so lonely and dreary that the men were gripped with sudden fear. They decided to go back to their own ship for guns and other weapons before exploring further.
Returning to the clearing around the house, they found a woman's silk gown and the dress of a baby apparently about a year old. Captain Giasson picked up the garments and examined them. To his horror, he saw that they were covered with bloodstains and that both were pierced as if by stabbing.
The captain and his crew were more terrified that before. They had seen evidence of murder and for all they knew, whoever was responsible might be hiding in the nearby woods ready to kill them. But Jacques Bourgeois, a stouthearted sealer who feared nothing, prevented them from running away. "We should not leave," he said. "We are armed, and if anyone tries to attack us he will get a good shower of lead!"
Fortified by Bourgeois's words, the other men advanced cautiously with him toward the hut, guns at the ready. As they entered the outer storm door of the building, a frightful sight greeted them: More than a dozen partly dismembered human bodies were strewn on the floor or hung from the beams in the ceiling.
The four men were stunned. Proceeding to the center of the room, as their eyes gradually became accustomed to the darkness, they realized they had left one horror to find another equally gruesome. Above the burnt-out logs in the enormous fireplace hung two iron pots filled with human fragments. This second horror was too much for them, and they broke down and sobbed bitterly.
Finally, they steeled their nerves to explore the rest of the house. In the next room they found three trunks. Shaking with fear, the men opened the lids. The trunks were crammed with dismembered human bodeis that had been carefully preserved with salt.
But in the next room they saw what they believed to be the first live person in this house of horrors. Lying in a hammock at one corner of the room was a man described in the papers of the day as "an enormous mulatto." This man had the shoulders of a wrestler and apparently the physique of a Hercules. On the floor nearby was a pan of soup (as for what kind, let's just say you won't find it on the Campbell's shelf at the grocery store). Choking back his disgust, Captain Giasson tried to roust the man from the hammock. But there was no response. The man was dead.
Continuing their search around the grounds, the group found a small outhouse. Inside was another pile of human remains. In all, the captain estimated there must have been twenty-four bodies. Although the soil of the island was still frozen on that May 8, Giasson decided that everything should be buried as soon as possible, and his crew set to work at once. Night had fallen by the time they finished.
The next morning they began a thorough investigation to learn just what had happened during that awful winter on Anticosti Island. They made two important finds. One was a letter that was obviously written by the mulatto. It was addressed to his mother, Mary Harrington, in Liverpool, England. There was a message asking that anyone who discovered the letter to send it to his mother.
The other discovery was a ship's log -- with the last entries made by the mulatto, Harrington. Here they read how the Granicus had been wrecked, and of how Harrington had killed the others as they slept. He believed that the members of the crew would all die in any case, and that he could prolong his own life by taking theirs. Harrington stayed alive for weeks on his grisly diet, but as the weather grew warmer he found himself getting weaker. Finally he crawled into his hammock for the last time. He had murdered the others sometime in February 1829, and on April 28 he made his last entry in the log book. He had lived to write in the log book until just a few days before the sealers arrived and landed at Anticosti. It is probable that he died of scurvy or poison from the decayed food.
The mass grave is supposed to still be there among the cliffs of Anticosti today, surrounded by a small enclosure.
Anyway, I guess sometimes the most devious and treacherous are the ones left standing at the end ... well, at least for a little while.
ubb
Bon appetit!
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