posted on March 4, 2004 06:10:52 PM new
The US has decided not to cut greenhouse emissions as most of the rest of the world agreed. Is there any possibility given the current push to dominate the world that the government sees global warming as a positive thing?
Might it not remove most of the troublesome third world as a problem more completely than any bombing campaign ever could?
Might not the US survive a huge climate shift better so that it would not only be even more clearly the prime world power - but also be able to lay claim to the oil and mineral reserves of the middle east and Africa after these areas are rid of most of their populations and would have no governments capale of offering any effective protest to anything the US demanded?
Might it even be in the percieved interest of the US to accelerate such warming rather than slow it?
posted on March 4, 2004 06:18:11 PM new
The only problem with that pov, is Canada, Iceland, Russia, etc., will be the new hot spots, which will add to the greenhouse effect, which will melt more glaciers and drown all the nouveau jet setters.
posted on March 4, 2004 06:45:12 PM new
The only down side to this plan [BTW I like it] is that there would be no water to keep north america going.
Other than that sounds good to me.
posted on March 4, 2004 08:07:57 PM new
The "greenhouse effect" is a bunch of BS. The earth's temperature has gone up and down all through history. I wonder what the "experts'" explanation will be when the planet's temperature actually drops one of these years. I bet they'll also blame the temperature drop on fossil fuels.
Reminds me of all the doom and gloom predictions back in the 80's about the ozone layer.
[ edited by ebayauctionguy on Mar 4, 2004 08:10 PM ]
posted on March 4, 2004 08:49:00 PM new
I'm assuming "refuses to cut greenhouse emmissions" refers to the Kyoto "agreement", which for the majority was a plan where the second world offered to figure out what limits to put on American manufacturing.
I'd say when Romania, Russia, China, et al have industries that are as clean as ours, sign up.
posted on March 4, 2004 09:17:28 PM new
Developed countries such as the United States, with only 25 percent of the world's population, are responsible for more than 75 percent of the accumulated greenhouse gas pollution in the atmosphere to date. Nonetheless, many developing countries - including China, India, Mexico, Brazil and Argentina - have made progress in reducing the greenhouse gas emission rates from their economies through improved transport, forestry and other policies.[1] While U.S. carbon dioxide emissions continue to rise, emissions in China have dropped more than 17 percent since 1997.[2]
http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/akyotoqa.asp
[ edited by Helenjw on Mar 4, 2004 09:18 PM ]
posted on March 4, 2004 09:21:19 PM new
ebayauctioguy
yeah I remember. I also remember our former (deceased now) governer Dixie Lee Ray, who was also a scientist, and wrote books on this. She did not believe that we created the ozone layer
Dixie Lee Ray, former head of the Atomic Energy Commision, wrote the scientific facts to counter environmentalism. The truth about who is behind Earth Day, how your aerosol cans are really affecting the ozone layer, how much oil seeps out of the earth and into the ocean every day. The earth is not fragile. Mt. St. Helens erupted with the force of 500 atomic bombs, and spewed 220,000 metric tons of sulfur dioxide, aerosols and other gases 15 miles into the stratosphere! She explains that man has little effect on this earth, but environmentalists use natural occuring changes as fuel to tax us to death. Just follow the money.
And to top it off, she was a Democrat
I really liked her.
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posted on March 4, 2004 10:47:31 PM new
Yeah, I'll just bet the Brazilians (who do most of the planet's rainforest burning), would be just itching to vote on a Kyoto type panel.
I really have no interest in joining the dungheap of most of this world. I never feel the need to apologize for American wealth and power. I realize this impedes the socialist utopia many quest, but that's life.
posted on March 4, 2004 11:47:37 PM newMt. St. Helens erupted with the force of 500 atomic bombs, and spewed 220,000 metric tons of sulfur dioxide, aerosols and other gases 15 miles into the stratosphere!
yeah, but it wasn't atomic bombs now, was it? Miss Dixie's writings are just the kind of hoo-haw everyone would love to believe..."nothing wrong here, do whatever you want, it won't hurt..."
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posted on March 5, 2004 05:01:59 AM new
On a scale I can see myself when I look out over a modern city what I usually see is a thick layer of smog. Twenty years ago when we moved here it usually smelled good when I went out in the morning. Now it takes an unusually active weather pattern to clear it out and is cause for comment. It takes about two hours of driving North away from the Detroit metro area before the air starts to smell better. When I go the other way toward Toledo and East to Cleveland it never gets any better. When I drove to Florida last week there were few gaps where the air was not hazy and stinky.
I have to conclude that we are permenantly putting out more pollution than the environment can absorb on a day to day basis over most of the country.
My eyes and nose are a rather crude instrument so I have no doubt there is a certain level of pollution even in the spaces that appear fairly clear to my senses.
