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 Bear1949
 
posted on May 10, 2004 03:04:43 PM new
I am retired Strategic Weapons Officer (SWO) who was the Nuclear Weapons Personnel Reliability Program (PRP) Certifying Officer on the USS ALASKA, a TRIDENT Submarine stationed up here in Bangor, Washington.

I screened ALL records (for years) for men's eligibility for Nuclear Weapon's related duties. I obtained their service records, medical, dental records, their SBIs (Background Investigation reports) and anything else that existed on their lives. I looked for PATTERNS of behavior that would indicate the probability that a man might compromise the deployment or operation of a nuclear missile of warhead.

My men received Emergency Action Messages (EAMs) in radio, they were in supervisory and security enforcement positions, ALL Officers on a TRIDENT Submarine had to be screened by me (including arriving Commanding Officers); all people involved on targeting these missiles (Ballistic Missile Fire Control Technicians); all people that were in safety and security (Nuclear Weapon Security Guards); missile maintenance (Missile Technicians); and men on the command and control team that had access to and used SAS (Sealed Authenticators used to validate Presidential Launch orders).

John Kerry would never make the program. So, he is clearly not eligible to have ULTIMATE NUCLEAR WEAPONS RELEASE AUTHORITY as the President of the United States. Neither was Bill Clinton - but that was a "WHITEWASH on the naiveté of the American Public (and some claim that public poles are 'accurate'? The moral lesson - "the unaware Public can and WILL be FOOLED". Kerry has the following patterns of selfish opportunism (that can be WELL substantiated by currently existing records):

1. Deception - (mis-leading the Senate about his role in atrocities in Vietnam; the confusion over medals, using the Purple Heart Laws to exit duty in Vietnam in only 4 months, when so many others sought to WIN instead. He claimed that HE, an Officer, even participated in atrocities against the Vietnamese by "blindly" following orders. But in REALITY ff given ANY MILITARY MEMBER is GIVEN ORDERS to DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL, he would be morally correct (and legal) to REFUSE to DO IT!
2. Betrayal - (betrayal of his fellow veterans in Vietnam, betrayal of his ex-wife).
3. Abandonment - (abandonment of his fellow veterans in Vietnam, abandonment of his ex-wife, abandonment of his children).
4. Reckless Arrogance - (many substantiated instances of this).
5. Substituting Conditional and LEGAL "contracts" for "Unconditional and MORAL Commitments". This means that he has been willing to put "legalism" above "morality", to justify doing things that may indeed be LEGAL, but MORALLY WRONG.

And if these are the things that have come OUT, what OTHER skeletons are hidden in the closet? That is the problem -we DON'T know - this is a question now that ALL these other things have surfaced and NOT by John Kerry himself.

I see single occurrences of questionable occurrences in Bush's background (e.g. his DUI), but I do not see them as PATTERNS. And where Bush made mistakes, he learned and exploited those mistakes for further growth in the building of his character. This is the quality that we see in ALL Great Presidents, and in ALL Great men in General.

General George Patton (who was on the "BOTTOM": and was once courts martialed himself BEFORE he went on to lead the Allies to Victory in WWII) said:

"I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs, but how high he bounces when he hits BOTTOM."

And if the development of a quality called "Character" requires a habit of sacrifice and improvising on defeats ("THE BOTTOM", then John Kerry has none. He has made a habit of "using others" to keep himself OFF the bottom, even if he must betray fellow warriors. Like a "rich little kid" he can't get his hands "too dirty", as he is TOO GOOD, TOO IMPORTANT for that!

As for us? We are just "the little people". And for those of his genre, those who have managed to live their lives avoiding situations of REAL sacrifice, to promise "something for less" or "something for nothing" is JUST THAT . . .a promise FOR LESS or a promise FOR NOTHING.

The Freedom of Choice is ours . . . while we still have it . . .


Dennis Trepanier, LCDR, USN (retired)
United States Nuclear Submarine Forces





"The Secret Service has announced it is doubling its protection for John Kerry. You can understand why — with two positions on every issue, he has twice as many people mad at him." —Jay Leno
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on May 10, 2004 04:01:40 PM new
Kerry a War Hero?


No, not imo. Did he serve in VN? Yes. Did he try to get out of serving and go to France to study, like clinton did to England? Yes.


Once in VN was he quick to use minor injuries [by his own admission] as an excuse to return state side? Yes...leaving his men behind.



Then coming home and joining the anti-war communist supported groups and saying what he did about his own country....NOT a war *hero* by any stretch of the imagination. Hero maybe to the anti-war crowd or to our enemies....but not the definition of an America Hero.



Re-elect President Bush!!
 
 ebayauctionguy
 
posted on May 10, 2004 04:17:47 PM new
Kerry's purple heart for a scratch? I can let that go. Kerry participating in war crimes and atrocities? I won't judge. Kerry leaving Vietnam 8 months early? That's his decision.

But I won't give Kerry a pass for turning sides and providing aid and comfort to the enemy while our troops were fighting and dying over there. Kerry and his friend Jane Fonda were traitors.





"I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it."
 
 logansdad
 
posted on May 11, 2004 07:05:56 AM new
If you don't want to call Kerry a war Hero, I wouldn't call Bush a "commander in chief"

Bush and Chenney have the following patterns of selfish opportunism (that can be WELL substantiated by currently existing records):

1. Deception - misleading America about going to war. He still has yet to find the WMD that he claimed were in Iraq.

2. Betrayal - Betrayed the American people by going after Saddam instead of focusing on the real person that caused the events of 9/11.

3. Abandonment - Refusal to let the UN institute sanctions in Iraq to prevent a war in Iraq. Refusal to abide by the Geneva convention when it comes to the prisoners at Gitmo. How long have these people been there and have yet to be charged with a crime? His above the law attitude has got to go.


4. Reckless Arrogance - Every country that Bush does not like is an axis of eveil. Goes to war with practically no support of any other allies but then wants the rest of the world to aid in the rebuilding of Iraq. Originally refusing the have a commission to look into the events of 9/11. Takes more offense to pictures of soldier's caskets than he does to abused Iraqi prisoners.

5. Substituting Conditional and LEGAL "contracts" for "Unconditional and MORAL Commitments". - Which companies are rebuilding Iraq? All the ones that have ties to Dick Cheney. These might be legal contracts but they are all done in the name of greed and support the wealthy.



Re-defeat Bush
 
 Bear1949
 
posted on May 11, 2004 09:40:04 AM new
If you don't want to call Kerry a war Hero, I wouldn't call Bush a "commander in chief"



And you don't have to. Although President Bush IS the "Commander in Chief".






"The Secret Service has announced it is doubling its protection for John Kerry. You can understand why — with two positions on every issue, he has twice as many people mad at him." —Jay Leno
 
 blairwitch
 
posted on May 11, 2004 10:00:49 AM new
The republicans better watch this issue because they will lose. We should be hearing more about Kerry's/Bush's military records.

 
 logansdad
 
posted on May 11, 2004 10:08:03 AM new
If you don't want to call Kerry a war Hero, I wouldn't call Bush a "commander in chief"

And you don't have to. Although President Bush IS the "Commander in Chief".


Just because he is "commander in chief" doesn't make him an effective one.
In my opinion he is "commander in chief of liars and idiots".



Re-defeat Bush
 
 
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