posted on June 29, 2004 09:45:38 PM new
For the first time tonight I tuned in to the Fox show The Jury and was pleased and not just a little amused that in an episode which examined a death during a prison riot that 5 of the jurors were portrayed by former cast memebers of the HBO show prison based show OZ. (Of course the fact that John Sena was one is just an added bonus... )
BTW - anyone ever notice the cast ties between Law and Order and Oz? There are about half a dozen cast regulars from Oz that became Law & Order cast members.
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posted on June 30, 2004 02:02:01 AM new
OK - for some reason I am actually paying attention to the TV (usually just white noise while i work on the computer) and now I have a question for any trivia afficianados....
Has any one actor ever appeared on as many different shows as the same charachter as Richard Belzer has in the role of Detective John Munch?
He started out on Homicide: Life on the Streets
Guested on a couple cross over episodes of the original Law & Order
Guested on an episode as of X-Files
Guested on The Beat
Later charachter retired from the Boston PD, moved to New York and became a regual cast member on Law & Order: Special Victims Unit.
I love Belzer and i love the Munch charachter - i think it is brilliant that so many other shows have appreciated the combination and rather than create cheap copies, imported them into their shows, I just wonder if this has been done before to this extent?
I know that ABC did it with a charachter where the same woman kept traveling between three cities and the three soaps they were in but in this case we have seen Munch in five primetime series.
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posted on June 30, 2004 04:50:10 AM new
Fenix, I noticed that about Belzer, too!
(Wasnt -shoot-is it Iced Tea??-He was also in Oz a few times? I like him for some reason. ? )
I only watched Oz a few times, very gritty though. It seemed like a Soprano type night soap you could get into and follow, but my interests got diverted elsewhere and then I got rid of HBO. lol.
I think they souped up the drama some, but overall the show was given high praise for its realisticly based episodes. I do remember it annoyed me when the muslim guy was getting alot of play. I just didnt like him or anything about the character. I know he was supposed to be the bad guy, but his bad guy didnt ever quite interest me, there was something missing there...(know what i mean?)
So, what is it you like about Belzer so much??
He used be one of the rat-pack New York comedians back in the early days.
edited to add: Maybe Frazer is a big crossover character?
posted on June 30, 2004 11:11:59 AM new
I don't think Ice-T was ever on Oz but it's possible I just missed the episodes. I have been getting the DVDs from Netflix and really enjoying watching it all over again from the start. I always really liked the Said (the Muslim), for me, it was Adebisi that drove me nuts. Eamonn Walker who played Said was one of the guys on The Jury last night along with Sena (I'll say it again...YUMMY!) and the guys that played Poet, Rebadoh, and Schillinger. That must have been a fun set to be on.
As for why I like Belzer... He's intelligent, well read, up on current affairs and has a great sense of irony. Most of all I love that he does not dumb down his act. He doesn't play to the lowest common denominator. He is an intelligent man that is not afraid to be an intelliget comic and I love that. Plus - I have a healthy appreciation for sarcasm
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posted on June 30, 2004 12:03:29 PM new
fenix, I could be wrong - and against you in entertainment trivia, I probably am lol (but I could give ya a run for it, cause I like the industry too - case thats not obvious as this doesnt seem to interest anybody else here..lol)-but I thought I remember him on there in the very first episodes? I am probably mixing him up with somebody else, though. Or maybe he did a guest appearance? anyway, I like him because he did the whole rapper thing got shagged all over for it and with it and still came out to stand tough. Land on his feet. I saw an interview with him that he talks to young kids about the myth thinking the gansta way is a cool trip and how he tells them its really not...but he's not unrealistic about changing their minds towards it either. he kinda knows there's only so much he can say to them.
So if you feel that way about belzer do you like Stern too? - listen to him? (him and belzer were good friends at one time.) Beltzer is a little too caustic for my tastes from what I've seen or heard. I admit I havent given him awhole lot of attention though, so maybe I* am the one not "getting it" with him.
btw, I'm sure you heard (stern) made news today. Added 9 stations across the country even after the censorship and fine'ing debable.
posted on June 30, 2004 01:58:41 PM new
You ot me curious so I checked his filmography and there is no mention of him appearing on Oz (there is also no mention of him in the Law & Order movie where he played a pimp - a former real life profession of his - either though so I'm not sure how accurate it is. I have the first season on DVD though so if I decide to do a maratho n session on the website in the next couple days I'll go thru them and see.
As for Stern - I used to listen to him all the time when I would pull all nighters at the old office and he was the only thing to listen to at 4am. I liked him at first but got sick of his whining. Now I just think is stuck in a permanent state of arrested developement and annoys the hell out of me. I guess the last straw was after he spent so much time talking up Clinton and then did an about face ripping everything he did because he did not step in on his belalf against the FCC. I was blow away at the audacity to believe that he believed that his act deserved a special presidential pardon. There is nothing wrong with trying to push the envelope but there is with feeling that you are immune to the reprocussions of pushing it too far.
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posted on June 30, 2004 02:58:33 PM new
Yeah. I used to like stern and listen to him too. That was a long time ago. I think I outgrew it when he really aimed his show at the 20yr old male audience anyway.
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