posted on July 7, 2004 10:50:14 PM new
John Kerry's web site biography used to say[note 1] that he was a Naval Officer until 1970, and then a Naval Reservist from 1972-1978. I and other Vietnam veterans questioned this gap, which conveniently coincided with Kerry's anti-war activities, and which implied he was not in the military at that time - an "early out" not available to the rest of us.
Kerry's dates of service are no longer in his biography.
His newly released service record shows he was a sworn officer in the Navy Reserve from 1970-1972. Coincidence or the exposure of a cover-up?
While a sworn Officer in the regular reserve, Kerry [note 2]:
* Met in Paris with the enemy.
* Frequently and under oath accused our country of a policy of atrocities.
* Testified, under oath before the U.S. Senate, that our soldiers routinely committed atrocities.
* Recommended to the Senate that we immediately surrender (unilateral cease fire and withdrawal) on enemy terms, without any guarantee of getting our POWs back.
* Recommended that we pay reparations to Vietnam.
* Told many other slanderous and damaging lies about our country, our soldiers, and our South Vietnamese allies.
One might ask for a question about the discrepancy between the two documents - his service record and his "request for service record (see "Update" below). His orders show release to inactive service in the Naval Reserve (as distinct from a release to the inactive reserve).
His service record, dated 1/25/85, shows:
This document is from here on Kerry's campaign web site.
"Inactive" in this document may mean that he was not required to attend drills. However, his membership was in the regular reserve, not the "inactive reserve" - then called "Standby Reserve."
In other words, whether or not he had to attend drills, he was in the organization subject to immediate callup (active reserve). He was later transferred to the Standby Reserve (inactive reserve). In both cases, he was still a sworn officer of the United States Navy.]
Coincidentally, I am also was a Vietnam Veteran who served in the Naval Reserves after active duty. I joined the Navy two days after John Kerry.
When I was in the same status as Kerry while he was performing his antiwar activities: (Regular Reserves, inactive status):
* I received orders from the Navy. Civilians do not receive military orders.
 I carried a military ID card (Kerry would have had one for the same reason I did). Civilians do not carry military ID cards. Mine is shown below (with signature and service ID blacked out for privacy).
(No that isn’t Bear)
[Note 1:
For some reason, the Wayback Machine does not archive 2004 pages from Kerry's web site.
“John Kerry is a Decorated Combat Veteran of the Vietnam War: Kerry volunteered for the United States Navy after college and served from 1966 through 1970 rising to the rank of Lieutenant, Junior Grade. Afterwards, Kerry continued his military service in the United States Naval Reserves from 1972 through 1978. Kerry served two tours of duty in Vietnam--one tour as commander of a Navy Swift Boat in the Mekong Delta. Kerry’s action during the Vietnam War resulted in his being awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star with V, three awards of the Purple Heart, Combat Action Ribbon, Navy Presidential Unit Citation, Navy Unit Commendation Ribbon, National Defense Service Medal, Vietnam Service Medal, and the Vietnam Campaign Medal. [Selective Service System National Headquarters; Boston Globe, 6/17/03]”
Here is another version still on his website that implies his discharge and does not mention at all his 1972-1978 reserve status. Since this is on a page meant for Veterans, it is likely that he knew veterans would question a 1970-1972 gap.
"The natural family is a man and woman bound in a lifelong covenant of marriage for the purposes of:
*the continuation of the human species,
*the rearing of children,
*the regulation of sexuality,
*the provision of mutual support and protection,
*the creation of an altruistic domestic economy, and
*the maintenance of bonds between the generations."
posted on July 7, 2004 11:02:41 PM new
Crow when did you first realize you were the illegitimate product of a unholy coupling between Austi & Skylite.
"The natural family is a man and woman bound in a lifelong covenant of marriage for the purposes of:
*the continuation of the human species,
*the rearing of children,
*the regulation of sexuality,
*the provision of mutual support and protection,
*the creation of an altruistic domestic economy, and
*the maintenance of bonds between the generations."
posted on July 7, 2004 11:13:17 PM new
Hellooooo! There is no cover up no matter how desperately you try to contrive one, Bear.
What part of
3 Jan. 1970 released from active duty, transferred to the Naval Reserve (inactive)
1 July 1972 transferred to the Standby Reserve (inactive)
16 Feb. 1978 honorably discharged from the Naval Reserve as a lieutenant
is not understandable? Or a cover-up?
edited to say: asnothing has been deleted from the Kerry site, and none of the previously posted records altered in any way, just where is the "cover-up"?
Boy, talk about desperate...
____________________
We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. -- John F. Kennedy
[ edited by bunnicula on Jul 7, 2004 11:17 PM ]
posted on July 7, 2004 11:23:17 PM new
Bunni - be kind.... just think of all the coming years poor Bear will be spending as a self loathing anti-american.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
posted on July 8, 2004 10:35:55 AM new
If Kerry had nothing to hide, why change the statement on hus web page?
self loathing anti-american
History has proved that position is reserved for you left wingers.....
"The natural family is a man and woman bound in a lifelong covenant of marriage for the purposes of:
*the continuation of the human species,
*the rearing of children,
*the regulation of sexuality,
*the provision of mutual support and protection,
*the creation of an altruistic domestic economy, and
*the maintenance of bonds between the generations."
[ edited by Bear1949 on Jul 8, 2004 10:40 AM ]
posted on July 8, 2004 12:28:12 PM new
He didn't--all the information that was there before is STILL there.
nice try, though...
____________________
We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. -- John F. Kennedy
posted on July 8, 2004 03:37:26 PM new
Wrong.........
"The natural family is a man and woman bound in a lifelong covenant of marriage for the purposes of:
*the continuation of the human species,
*the rearing of children,
*the regulation of sexuality,
*the provision of mutual support and protection,
*the creation of an altruistic domestic economy, and
*the maintenance of bonds between the generations."
(No that isn’t Bear)
