posted on July 9, 2004 08:18:08 AM new
Updated 10:07 AM ET July 9, 2004
WASHINGTON (AP) - Military payroll records that could more fully document President Bush's whereabouts during his service in the Texas Air National Guard were inadvertently destroyed, according to the Pentagon.
In a letter responding to a federal lawsuit by The Associated Press, the Defense Department said that microfilm containing the pertinent National Guard payroll records was damaged and could not be salvaged. The damaged material included payroll records for the first quarter of 1969 and the third quarter of 1972.
"President Bush's payroll records for those two quarters were among the records destroyed," wrote C.Y. Talbott, of the Pentagon's Freedom of Information and Security Review section. "Searches for back-up paper copies of the missing records were unsuccessful."
Well, it doesn't matter that much we all know he WASN'T in Vietnam putting HIS life on the line for America. Funny, but since he was a lush maybe was it better he stayed home in his bottle......
posted on July 9, 2004 08:22:08 AM new
Why am I not surprised?
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We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. -- John F. Kennedy
posted on July 9, 2004 09:27:26 AM new
I don't believe that the Pentagon is so messed up that they would inadvertently destroy the President's millitary records that were so "stellar".
posted on July 9, 2004 09:30:01 AM new
Of course it was, Helen. Just like all those documents from the rose Law Firm and such......
Oh yes, Slick Willie is a taboo subject in this thread.....LOLOLOL!
In Christ,
Rick
Romans 8:16
"I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: "I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I do not accept His claim to be God." That is one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic....or else he would be the devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to."
C.S. Lewis: "Mere Christianity"
posted on July 9, 2004 10:27:45 AM new
Here is another Ooops!
CIA Gave False Info on Iraq
WASHINGTON - The key U.S. assertions leading to the 2003 invasion of Iraq that Saddam Hussein had chemical and biological weapons and was working to make nuclear weapons — were wrong and based on false or overstated CIA analyses, a scathing Senate Intelligence Committee report asserted Friday.
Sen. Pat Roberts, a Kansas Republican who heads the committee, told reporters that assessments that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and could make a nuclear weapon by the end of the decade were wrong.
"This was a global intelligence failure."
The committee's ranking Democrat, Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, said: "Tragically, the intelligence failures set forth in this report will affect our national security for generations to come. Our credibility is diminished. Our standing in the world has never been lower. We have fostered a deep hatred of Americans in the Muslim world, and that will grow. As a direct consequence, our nation is more vulnerable today than ever before."
This comes as no big surprise. Not only is the whole world much more unsafe now, there have been over 1000 coalition deaths and lots of other innocent people killed all because of lies and a major screw-up. There needs to be a whole new administration to put a new face back on America so it can regain the respect of the world again.
posted on July 9, 2004 11:51:14 AM new
LoL Logan!!
"We have fostered a deep hatred of Americans in the Muslim world, and that will grow. As a direct consequence, our nation is more vulnerable today than ever before."
That's a great statement Kiara, but the problem I have, is that the Muslim world doesn't seem to be willing to accept ANY responsibilty for their role in where our world is at. I have yet to hear any Muslim leaders speak about what THEY plan to do to fix things other than hate and kill all Americans (radical Muslims), and oh-woe-is-us. Their hatred for the U.S. started long before 911, and I agree that the situation has become critical, but I can't blame the U.S. totally for the situation when the other side appears to bring zip to the table.
posted on July 9, 2004 12:09:32 PM new
Krafty - - the thing is, they don't have to campaign and present a platform and a plan for the future, in fact, they can't set forth these public speaeches and such that you want them to do without worsening the situation. Terrorism is not fought above ground. Isn't that what we all said when we argued against the idea that an invasion of Iraq was a step in the war on terrorism? Terrorism is fought undergground, with stealth and silience. You don't want to let the enemy know your plan, your position, etc. You let them know that when caught they will be dealt the harshest of punishment and when you have publicizable victories, you demonstrate those victories but you are fogetting one important difference between our war on terrorism and the middle easts.
We believe that there are cells here who may be able to pull off acts of extremem violence. Arab leaders KNOW that they are there within their borders and KNOW that they will commit those same heinous acts within their own borders in an attempt to weaken their government if they feel that their government is on the side of "the infidels". It is best to fight them siliently aand to enjoy quiet successes than to poke them with a very public stick just so that the world can hear them scream.
We do not have the right to ask foreign governments to sacrifice the safety of their people and their efforts just so that we can hear reassuring words.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
[ edited by fenix03 on Jul 9, 2004 12:10 PM ]
[ edited by fenix03 on Jul 9, 2004 12:11 PM ]
posted on July 9, 2004 12:38:53 PM new
Kraft, there are Muslim groups working for understanding between both cultures and they are working against terrorism but so far there seems to be little, if any effect. Perhaps they're not big enough to be heard. I agree the hatred started before 9/11 but the Iraqi war has esculated it on both sides. Bush was warned about this before invading.
We can't force our Western culture on them. It would be great if everyone could accept each other for what they believe in but with such radicals on both sides I doubt it can happen. I think the tribal leaders over there should bear a lot of the responsibility for the turmoil as they are the cause of much of it.
