posted on August 1, 2004 12:49:29 PM new
Twelve has suggested in a previous thread, that if there was a test to determine if your fetus was gay, you should be able to abort (even if you're against abortion), no questions asked (in so many words). Although to me, it's ridiculous, it's actually a good topic for discussion. Do you agree with Twelve?
posted on August 1, 2004 01:13:18 PM new
I don't believe in abortion as a form of birth control, which this would be.
Abortions should be an option if the mother's life is in danger, in the case of rape or incest.
A "gay" fetus doesn't qualify....fetuses are way too young to have sexual relations of any kind. What's the world coming to when parents allow their fetuses to have sex?
TerryAnn
edited to add a "be"
[ edited by twig125silver on Aug 1, 2004 03:56 PM ]
posted on August 1, 2004 01:24:11 PM new
Twig, when you say a fetus is too young to have sex, do you mean straight sex or gay sex, or are both taboo at that stage?
posted on August 1, 2004 01:30:12 PM new
I assume we are talking about abortions which would be considered illegal because of the time limit.
Abortions after the timelimit for birth defect or mother's health protect the mother and child from excess suffering and the burden of care. While I believe homosexuals to be "defective" physiologically or psychologically, as opposed to an "alternate life style", the defect is not a burden and I would not vote to allow it
posted on August 1, 2004 02:01:50 PM new
Imo, a fetus is much too young for any kind of sex, no matter what its preference is.
Where are these parents?? Don't they realize their fetuses are too darn young??
posted on August 1, 2004 02:04:28 PM new
Of course it should be illegal. By the time a child reaches puberty and is capable of CHOOSING to be gay, it's a little too late for an abortion.
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posted on August 1, 2004 03:10:13 PM new
kraft as uusual deson't give you all the information... my remarks were in realtion to the misinformation some homosexuals like to spread about homosexuality being a "gene", I added if a homosexual gene were ever found, then people probably would not protest abortions so much...
But being as that was hypothetical and as it stands now we are all born straight and homosexuality is a choice that is made... this discussion is purely hypothetical...
Twig, you have to learn kraft doesn't give all the information... queen of half truths as most of her ilk are on these boards...
I do not support abortion, that was a hypothetical statement as it stands there is no such thing as a gay gene... fetus was not mentioned at all.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
Homosexuality is a choice that can be corrected...
posted on August 2, 2004 06:55:11 AM new
Since twelve's views are probably based on his brainwashing when he changed from gay to straight here is a more scientific information.
posted on August 2, 2004 07:12:31 AM new
logansdad, I have never been queer... but I see that commenting about someone's sexual preference is only when you are making the comments... didn't like yellowstones picture?
We all know that homosexuality is a mistake that can be corrected... I am not attacking you but your chosen lifestyle... but I think it is you who have been brainwashed...
You can correct this mistake...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
Homosexuality is a choice that can be corrected...
If logan had one or ten male lovers, that would not effect you.
If he decided that his "choice" (as you say), was to be straight, it would have nothing to do with you. If the total gay population "chose" to be straight, it would have nothing to do with you. If he decided to be gay, and made that "choice" as you say, it would have nothing to do with you.
If the gay population was 1 percent or 10 percent, or 25 percent, it would have nothing to do with you.
So, with these simple to understand facts, why then are you so concerned with the gay population?
When you make anti gay comments, you make a strong statement about yourself. Why do you need to involve yourself in these anti gay remarks? What is the underlying reason for this????
Please don't say something like it's an abomination, because it doesn't effect you.
True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
posted on August 2, 2004 07:43:20 AM new
Also, twelve,
you say that logan can correct his "mistake".
How is that done, in your own words. Are you speaking from the voice of experience? Do you know anyone that has been corrected? If not, how do you make this statement??
Your answer should be interesting!
True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
posted on August 2, 2004 07:58:47 AM new
Your question is a foolish example of your childish banter. It reminds me of watching two 10 year olds arguing on a playground. I can understand that people on this board will come into contact with people like you.
If I answered yes, there would be nothing you could do about it. Plus you wouldn't know if I was or not. Plus it wouldn't be any of your business.
If I answered no, there would be nothing you could do to prove or disprove it. Plus it wouldn't be any of your business.
I support the rights of ALL people. Maybe that is a concept that you don't grasp in your limited ability to accept others.
True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
posted on August 2, 2004 08:18:55 AM new
It is the basis of your opinions, you say it is none of my business but everytime someone points out how wrong homosexuality is... here comes yeager with his opinions... no substance just opinion... when I post facts you try to discount them as irrelevent... when I post my opinion you try some psycho babble and call me queer...
However you will not answer one simple question are you a homosexual?
are you afraid to answer and let people see the why you post the way you do or are you ashamed of being homosexual that you wish it to remain a secret, the very thing you say you are against...
You have no "right" to decide what affects or doesn't affect others... that is impunging upon my rights and that makes your owm words I support the rights of ALL people.
A lie... you don't support my rights.
I am still waiting also for my answer about marriage... why if the lifestyle is so "accepted" is the majority against marriage.. . are you so naive that you believe the only reason good people are against homosexual marriage is because of the word "marriage"... LOL if people accepted the lifestyle they really wouldn't object to marriage and that is what you, logansdad and the rest of the left fail to understand or refuse to believe.
Homosexuality is a wrong lifestyle choice...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
Homosexuality is a choice that can be corrected...
posted on August 2, 2004 09:00:42 AM newAre you homosexual yeager? I am curious as to your seemingly support for this deviancy... do you also support NAMBLA?
Another ignorant post that equates the opinions of one group with homosexuality. Not all gays belong to NAMBLA nor are they pedophiles like you want to believe. Where do you come up with this nonsense? Are all straight couples part of swinger's groups just because some engage in that sort of thing. Do all husbsands murder their wife since you know have two well known cases implying such? Are all African Americans part of the Black Panthers or the NAACP?
It is the basis of your opinions, you say it is none of my business but everytime someone points out how wrong homosexuality is... here comes yeager with his opinions... no substance just opinion...
That is all your posts are - opinions. You never back up any of your posts with any scientifc information. It is just your paranoid opinions.
You have no "right" to decide what affects or doesn't affect others... that is impunging upon my rights and that makes your owm words I support the rights of ALL people. A lie... you don't support my rights.
And how are your rights being violated? You are being allowed to express your views. You deviant behavior or anyone else's in the bedroom has no impact on my life. Funny that is exactly what you are doing by wanting impose laws banning gay marriages. Why don't you just pass a law outlawing homosexuality. Oh wait you can't do that since the Supreme Court has already said that what two consenting adults do in their own bedroom is none of your business.
Homosexuality is a wrong lifestyle choice...
Why? Because you don't approve of it? You don't know the first thing about being gay so STFU. Until you are in a person's shoes, you will never know what they feel.
I am still waiting also for my answer about marriage... why if the lifestyle is so "accepted" is the majority against marriage..
Just because the majority doesn't approve gay marriage doesn't mean they are against the gay lifestyle. There are many people that don't support gay marriage but are tolerant of gays. You however equate the two issues as being the same. They are two separate issues.
If homosexuality can be corrected how come it has been around since Ancient Egypt?
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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[ edited by logansdad on Aug 2, 2004 07:24 PM ]
posted on August 2, 2004 09:08:48 AM newlogansdad, I have never been queer... but I see that commenting about someone's sexual preference is only when you are making the comments... didn't like yellowstones picture?
There is a difference but you will not understand.
My post was about my hatred toward Bush. It had nothing to do about any sort of gay issue or yellowstone personally. However "it" came back to attack me personally for no reason.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
posted on August 3, 2004 06:32:20 AM new
Ahhh as usual nothing from the left... logansdad has nothing to bring to the table anymore... he can't justify his choice of lifestyle, He thinks that people actually accept homosexuality in this country...
Must be nice not to see the big picture...
It is not two different things... it is the same issue...legitimizing homosexuality...
Oh annd your rights are not being denied either... homosexuals do not deserve to be married...
I can see where you refuse to only believe the science that agrees with you, but I have posted several articles where the authors are respected in their fields... but then again it doesn't agree with the homosexual agenda and the myths the homosexuals want to perpetuate.
Yep the Supreme Court has declared what you do in your bedroom your business, however it is the homosexuals that are bringing it out the bedroom... where it should stay.
Homosexuality is wrong...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
Homosexuality is a choice that can be corrected...
posted on August 3, 2004 06:44:42 AM newlogansdad has nothing to bring to the table anymore
And you do.
Ahhh as usual nothing from the left...
Typical response from the village idiot who doesn't answer the questions at hand.
I can see where you refuse to only believe the science that agrees with you, but I have posted several articles where the authors are respected in their fields... but then again it doesn't agree with the homosexual agenda and the myths the homosexuals want to perpetuate.
Just like you refuse to believe in the scientific and medical explanations that do not agree with your agenda.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
posted on August 3, 2004 06:50:20 AM new
Have you always been this bitter about being homosexual? or is just recently when you have learned how wrong that lifestyle choice is?
But then again getting kicked out of the military for being homosexual would affect someone, so I can see why you would be so upset about it...
Wouldn't you like to correct that mistake you made?
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
Homosexuality is a choice that can be corrected...
posted on August 3, 2004 06:55:47 AM newHave you always been this bitter about being homosexual? or is just recently when you have learned how wrong that lifestyle choice is?
I am not bitter about being gay. Unlike some people, I am not obssessed about changing someone's lifestyle.
But then again getting kicked out of the military for being homosexual would affect someone, so I can see why you would be so upset about it...
When did I say I was kicked out. I have an honorable discharge. Unlike some people I never threw anyone overboard.
Wouldn't you like to correct that mistake you made?
No but I bet your mother wishes she never had a son like you. I bet she wishes she could correct her mistake.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
posted on August 3, 2004 11:25:44 AM new
I constantly see same sex animals humping away. I guess they should be corrected as well. Ironic, eh? We have higher intelligence, and have set boundaries of what is right and wrong, yet for some strange reason the animal kingdom is historically bi-sexual. Twelve thinks this of course can be corrected. Go believe in your made up god who told you that being Gay is wrong and can be "corrected". Twelve, you are a sick, bigoted individual. You may never be "corrected" since you have such a closed mind. You want to inflict your beliefs onto others, but I am guessing you don't want to be accountable for the same.
Where have you been? Dogs have already learned to say "I do".
True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
