posted on August 3, 2004 09:47:02 PM new
-Two of john kerry's three Purple Heart decorations resulted from self-inflicted wounds, not suffered under enemy fire.
-All three of kerry's Purple Hearts were for minor injuries, not requiring a single hour of hospitalization.
-A "fanny wound" was the highlight of kerry's much touted "no man left behind" Bronze Star.
-kerry turned the tragic death of a father and small child in a Vietnamese fishing boat into an act of "heroism" by filing a false report on the incident.
-kerry entered an abandoned Vietnamese village and slaughtered the domestic animals owned by the civilians and burned down their homes with his Zippo lighter.
-kerry's reckless behavior convinced his colleagues that he had to go -- becoming the only Swift Boat veteran to serve only four months.
posted on August 4, 2004 02:56:48 AM new
If I were voting based only on the military records of both, I would take Kerry. Bush was involved in so much controversy concerning his military record. Whereas, Kerry hasn't. I am sure that the Bush camp can't find anything to drag Kerry through the mud, if they could, they already would have used it.
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posted on August 4, 2004 06:43:19 AM new
Bill Clinton said it best at the convention. He and bush got out of serving, while Kerry said send me. After the debates take place Kerry will jump 10 points in the polls. I am sure their service records will be mentioned, and compared.
posted on August 4, 2004 08:36:43 AM new
I heard an interesting assertion last night-- the commentator was comparing Bush to Carter in that both of their terms were disasters.
He went on to say that Reagan was in a statistical dead heat with Carter until Reagan won the election by a landslide.
He also pointed out that a setting president polling as low as Bush has never won re-election.
posted on August 4, 2004 07:53:58 PM new
blairwitch - while Kerry said send me.
No..he did not. You need to read his own words and you will find out he didn't think he'd be sent into any fighting. He signed up in '65...when there were only about 1/3 of the troops we eventually had over there. He has stated HIMSELF he was avoiding the fighting.
His supporters only want to focus on the short 4 months he served there....while totally ignoring his actions upon his return home.
Go read either vietnamvetsagainstkerry.com or MIA/POWagainstkerry. com
they'll open your eyes....maybe. But either way you'll see BOTH sides of his 'service'...not just the part the left wishes all to focus on.
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posted on August 5, 2004 02:43:07 PM new
-Kerry earned his Silver Star by killing a lone, fleeing, teenage Viet Cong in a loincloth.
-And if Kerry's superiors had known the truth at the time, they would never have recommended him for the medal.
-Kerry personally ordered the slaughter of small animals at a small hamlet along the Song Bo De River.
George Bates, an officer in Coastal Division 11, participated in numerous operations with Kerry. In UNFIT FOR COMMAND, Bates recalls a particular patrol with Kerry on the Song Bo De River. He is still "haunted" by the incident:
With Kerry in the lead, the boats approached a small hamlet with three or four grass huts. Pigs and chickens were milling around peacefully. As the boats drew closer, the villagers fled. There were no political symbols or flags in evidence in the tiny village. It was obvious to Bates that existing policies, decency, and good sense required the boats to simply move on.
Instead, Kerry beached his boat directly in the small settlement. Upon his command, the numerous small animals were slaughtered by heavy-caliber machine guns. Acting more like a pirate than a naval officer, Kerry disembarked and ran around with a Zippo lighter, burning up the entire hamlet.
posted on August 5, 2004 03:29:44 PM new
another attempt at mudslinging by the right. It is quite amusing how they continue this attack on Kerry. By the way, I just saw for the first time a political advertisement "endorsed by George Bush" that didn't mention John Kerry. I guess they are taking hints from Kerry's campaign, though they continue to fail to mention any true accomplishments from the Bush Administration. Perhaps because there are none.
posted on August 5, 2004 03:54:27 PM new
For all of you mudslingers that attack Kerry on his status as a Vietnam War veteran:
You are no better than the war protesters that called them names and threw things at them when they came back to the world. You are the same, and what you are doing shames you, not those you attack.
There is a fact you can't spin. Kerry served in Vietnam. Bush did not.
You have the right to an informed opinion -Harlan Ellison
posted on August 5, 2004 04:35:09 PM new
snowy- I agree with what you say. Nobody who serves their country as our soldiers do deserves the treatment many of them experienced when coming home from Vietnam.
Two points to put the icing on the cake. These are the same people who seem to think that disagreeing with your president is unpatriotic. They are also the ones who claim democrats are unpatriotic because they don't think the war in Iraq is justified. They constantly fail to mention that a very large majority of Democrats supported the war in Afghanistan when we were going after Osama and Al Qaeda.
Here is a classic question to ask these mudslingers... How can you claim we are unpatriotic if we disagree with an unjustified war, yet think that you are patriotic when you attack a War Veteran over his fully disclosed service record? How patriotic are they to not question their presidents gaping hole in his war record, and the fact that he avoided Vietnam? How can you justify a criminal as our president? They constantly point to Clinton for having adultry as being a crime, but George Bush's Drunk Driving Conviction goes unnoticed.
These neo-cons love to throw mud, but only one direction. They don't want to look at their own.
posted on August 5, 2004 05:29:17 PM new
Rusty, what makes it worse is the same people now calling Kerry names over his service used to rail against the Vietnam War protesters. Hypocritical behavior, and the vets have to listen to this shite and endure it all over again.
As for the direction of their smearing, the ideologues don't seem to realize they are driving those vets away from their position by their tactics. It's hard to show "Support for our troops" when one is in the process of denigrating a decorated war veteran, but perhaps they don't see the dichotomy of their words and actions.
Or perhaps they do.
You have the right to an informed opinion -Harlan Ellison
