posted on August 28, 2004 10:22:37 AM new
Lets see, kerry campaign has acknowledged the 1st PH wasn't deserved. Records on kerrys own web site show signs of falsification or just plain old lies about his Silver Star with "V".
Now lets read what kerry had to say in 1996 about those vets who falsely claimed military awards, shall me.
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1996: Kerry judged false decorations 'very wrong'
'There's nothing that says more about your career,' he said after Boorda tragedy
Posted: August 28, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
Amid questions about one of John Kerry's combat "V" decorations, unearthed remarks by the senator eight years ago reveal he judged an admiral's allegedly false awards as a serious offense that disqualified him from leadership.
After the suicide of Adm. Mike Boorda in 1996, National Review columnist Kate O'Beirne notes Kerry gave his response to two Boston papers.
"In a sense, there's nothing that says more about your career than when you fought, where you fought and how you fought," Kerry told the Boston Herald.
"If you wind up being less than what you're pretending to be, there is a major confrontation with value and self-esteem and your sense of how others view you."
At that time, a left-leaning news service had raised questions about Boorda's combat "V" clip, which is awarded for valor under fire. The doubt was over whether Boorda's two tours in Vietnam aboard combat ships qualified him for the awards. The Washington Post reported Boorda's right to wear the clips apparently was supported by a Navy manual, but hours before he was scheduled to address the issue with Newsweek reporters, he shot himself.
The Herald described Kerry as among the veterans who said although they would take offense at someone falsely wearing the "V" pin, they couldn't see how it would drive Boorda to suicide.
"Is it wrong? Yes, it is very wrong. Sufficient to question his leadership position? The answer is yes, which he clearly understood," Kerry told the Herald.
Kerry also spoke with the Boston Globe.
"The military is a rigorous culture that places a high premium on battlefield accomplishment," he told the paper.
Of Boorda and his apparent violation, Kerry said: "When you are the chief of them all, it has to weigh even more heavily."
As WorldNetDaily reported, two researchers contend Kerry's Silver Star has an unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false and at variance with official government records." That's because Silver Stars are given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which would be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and Separation," displayed on his website, shows the "V."
A U.S. Navy spokesman told the Chicago Sun-Times, "Kerry's record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a combat 'V' to anyone for a Silver Star."
The allegations about Kerry's war record come amid a campaign by a Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, an independent "soft-money" group that has produced a New York Times best-seller, "Unfit for Command", endorsed by 254 men who served with Kerry in the Mekong Delta during his abbreviated tour from November 1968 to March 1969.
posted on August 28, 2004 10:55:59 AM new
Bear, you may have already read this but just in case I know it will give you, and maybe some others, a good laugh. This guy is absolutely unbelievable...what he's done to project this false image of his service. Made me think of it when I read this thread topic.
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"Further, Kerry's DD 214 Record of Transfer or Separation (posted on his website), lists a Silver Star with a combat "V" (for valor) -- but, according to the Navy Awards Manual, the "V" Combat Distinguishing Device is never awarded with the Silver Star."
"Stranger yet, Kerry's Silver Star has not one citation, but three--each one a revision of the previous, and the last revision made more than 20 years after the first.
For an excellent analysis of these altered citations, visit
... and read the report by Henry Mark Holzer, Professor Emeritus at Brooklyn Law School, and Erika Holzer, a lawyer and co-author, with Professor Holzer, of Fake Warriors: Identifying, Exposing and Punishing Those Who Falsify Their Military Service. (A second edition is forthcoming with a new preface entitled "John Kerry:The Ultimate Fake Warrior."
"According to the Holzers, "John Kerry may soon learn that three citations for a single Silver Star is two too many."
"One burning question yet to be answered is, who prepared the "Personal Award Recommendations" for these two decorations? In all probability, they were authored by Kerry himself -- whose embellishment of the details has now been questioned by credible witnesses."
As for those three Purple Hearts, this week, Kerry has backed off of his first medal claim that he was hit by hostile fire, because it was discovered that he wrote in his journal nine days after the incident in question, "We hadn't been shot at yet, and Americans at war who haven't been shot at are allowed to be cocky." Indeed, the injury in question (a small abrasion on his arm which was treated with the equivalent of Neosporin and a Band-Aid) was most likely self-inflicted, and Kerry's request for a Purple Heart was flatly rejected by both his treating physician and command -- until he re-applied through an alternate chain of command some weeks later.
The circumstances around his second and third Purple Hearts are equally questionable.
posted on August 28, 2004 11:18:06 AM new
Linda. Kerry doesn't yet realize the extent of the wave of indignation that is swelling against him for all his lies. It is catching up to him faster than any of his minions can visualize.
All of Theresa's money cannot erase the life time of lies he has built his reputation upon.
posted on August 28, 2004 11:45:58 AM new
On today's Chicago Sun Times [suntimes.com] this also speaks about the latest edition of kerry's three silver star citations.
Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief
August 28, 2004
BY THOMAS LIPSCOMB
Former Navy Secretary John Lehman has no idea where a Silver Star citation displayed on Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's campaign Web site came from, he said Friday. The citation appears over Lehman's signature.
"It is a total mystery to me. I never saw it. I never signed it. I never approved it. And the additional language it contains was not written by me," he said.
The additional language varied from the two previous citations, signed first by Adm. Elmo Zumwalt and then Adm. John Hyland, which themselves differ. The new material added in the Lehman citation reads in part: "By his brave actions, bold initiative, and unwavering devotion to duty, Lieutenant (jg) Kerry reflected great credit upon himself...."
Asked how the citation could have been executed over his signature without his knowledge, Lehman said: "I have no idea. I can only imagine they were signed by an autopen." The autopen is a device often used in the routine execution of executive documents in government.
Kerry senior adviser Michael Meehan could not be reached for comment on Kerry's records.
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Never can be reached....guess there's just way too many questions being asked of him at this time.
Thomas Lipscomb is chairman of the Center for the Digital Future in New York.
Perhaps sensing that some truths really are self-evident, on Friday the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth changed tactics from denigrating Kerry's Vietnam record to distorting his antiwar record. According to a Nexis search, Thurlow's name was not uttered all day on the Fox News Channel.
From Latimes.
posted on August 28, 2004 02:56:24 PM new
And you point is Helen?
How do you distort the admitted evidence of his aiding and abeting North Vietnamese Communist" Of his illegal meetings in Paris with the N Viet Communists.
The Swift Vets aren't changing tactics because of what kerry is saying, they are bringing more evidence of his tratorious anti American behavior into public view.
I'm courious to see what kerry will do when the MIA/POW familys get involved and display their evidence against against him.
“Funny how attack ads by left-wing groups like moveon.org didn't provoke the same moral
outrage as this vet ad.” -- Joe Scarborough, MSNBC.com. (8/21/2004)
posted on August 28, 2004 03:48:17 PM newSwift Boat Veterans for Truth changed tactics from denigrating Kerry's Vietnam record to distorting his antiwar record.
No, they didn't 'change tactics' at all. They're discussing their book, Unfit for Command....and both their differences on how he obtained his medals AND what his behavior was immediately following his return from VN are all discussed in their book.
Their ads are just doing it in segments....I believe they're on number three currently.
