posted on August 30, 2004 04:08:15 AM new
Our elections have been set to be held on oct.9th.
While debating politics with my drinking pals, I have noted the response from a couple of fellows who proclaim they will be voting for the current PM again, when I raised the question of the ‘false witness’ which was put forth as a case for war against Iraq, both responded similarly, in that they felt that ‘it was unlikely to effect the bread on their plate’.
Is it unfair to believe that monetary considerations are more important to those that vote for the right, than moral issues;
that the issue of killing people in war is dwarfed by their concerns for interest rates and the price of petrol.
Is it fair to believe that they are worshipers of money?
posted on August 30, 2004 04:48:53 AM new
doesnt seem too fair to me.
i mean, of course its not morally right in some sense..
but plenty of us all love ourselves, or our own family, our own love ones more.
a lot of times, its not money.. but what money brings along with. choices. choice of a different life, a better life.. etc. for themselves, and their loved ones.
eh, in either case its not something I'd like to hear from my friends or even drinking buddies.. but doesnt mean I'll completely label them something. I'll make a note, but maybe its best to reserve judgement, or not judge completely at all in the long run.
Money is the root of all evil. . .I believe that. When you have it, it's hard to look at anything else. The most generous people I know in terms of emotional, physical and monetary support are those who have not. I think money numbs you somehow. My brother, who used to be quite a generous and caring person, is now quite a pretentious "me" person since he's made it into the upper tax brackets. When once we were quite close and alike, we are virtual strangers to one another. If having a lot of money means that I'll forget who I am and what my core values are, I don't want it. I don't enjoy struggling. Not the least bit. But, the alternative doesn't appeal to me either. I've been known to give away my last dollar to someone who needs it more and I hope to always stay that way.
My brother used to vote democrat. That is, until money came into the picture. He nows benefits from poorly balanced tax breaks to the extent that he and his family travel extensively throughout the year and can afford two new cars each year. They just bought a brand new house. So, if "things" are what matter to you most, of course you're going to vote that way. In good conscious (his conscious, not mine), he lives the life of Reilly while those around him struggle to put food on the table. Money has numbed him and it's ruined our once healthy relationship. The principles instilled in him by our parents have been forgotten. My grandparents were wealthy, however, their generation (those that lived through the Depression and made it on their own) never forgot where they came from and it was reflected in their actions toward the needy. They never handed us anything. I grew up in relative poverty although we never realized it at the time because my grandparents believed that if you pulled yourself up by your own bootstraps, you'll always remember what it's like to be humble. Generosity, in this instance, has been replaced by greed and my grandparent's philosophy backfired. He has become part of the "me generation". He will be explaining at the pearly gates one day.
In the long run, I don't think money buys happiness. I don't think it's a lifelong happiness creator. One day, your conscious will break through the money wall.
Cheryl
. . .if you still try to defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by that Antichrist- I really believe he is Antichrist- I will have nothing more to do with you and you are no longer my friend.. . - War and Peace, Tolstoy
posted on August 30, 2004 06:36:13 AM newMoney has numbed him and it's ruined our once healthy relationship
meaning, he either won't share it with me, or I borrowed some and now he expects me to pay it back...
Money is the reason we all work, those who work hard and do what needs to get done, are the ones who get the money, there will always be those that see those who have it, and envy them to the point of jealousy...
Austbounty, surprised you even have any mates, but at least they know where there bread is buttered...
posted on August 30, 2004 07:07:30 AM new
"money is the root of all evil ..." is usually the cry of people too lazy to earn it, but who somehow find it acceptable to have it handed to them.
"Is it unfair to believe that monetary considerations are more important to those that vote for the right, than moral issues; that the issue of killing people in war is dwarfed by their concerns for interest rates and the price of petrol: "Is it fair to believe that they are worshipers of money?"
I think that it's fair to believe that those voters are ignorant if they believe that voting for neoconservatives will enhance their pocketbook. Such voters are scary in their allegiance to the neocon philosophy...seemingly without knowing what their agenda is other than some goofy slogan such as "stay the course". And that militaristic course for power and money, using the philosophy of the ends justify the means, will only benefit the welfare of the elite.
posted on August 30, 2004 10:09:40 AM new
Nodoby owes me a living except myself. I directed my own destiny whether I wanted to be rich or poor. It doesn't matter what my siblings have as I am not jealous of either of them. My brother worked hard all his life and his RR retirement is 3x what I make on SS. My sister was a teacher, retired at 55 and lives rather well. She takes trips couple of times a year. Has two homes. For Me, my husband and I live on our SS checks, not a lot but we get by and have a good life. Now my sister and brother owe me nothing except the love that I give and get from them. I would never expect either one of them to share their wealth with me and I don't begrudge them theirs.
posted on August 30, 2004 07:32:59 PM new
Myself, I think that the lack of money is the root of "evil". Having more just brings out people's true nature.IMHO
posted on August 30, 2004 07:46:25 PM new
I think tv is the root of all evil. If you lived in a log cabin somewhere, grew your own food and maybe made stuff to sell, I don't think your true nature would be consumerism. When you're bombarded with advertising that makes you think you're a loser if you don't have (fill in the blank), it gives people an unheathly outlook about what makes them happy.
posted on August 31, 2004 03:31:46 AM new
The quote is: The love of money is the root of all evil - not money itself.
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~~ Keep thy heart with all diligence for out of it are the issues(forces)of life..Proverbs 4:23~~
My recent experience has made me realise how the right is made up of and supported by those that are willing to sell out another for a few pieces of silver.
Although the right will often get on it’s high horse about so called ‘moral’ issues, the issue of ‘philanthropy’ never comes into play; they seem not to be ‘conservative’ but rather, ‘compassionately impaired’.
