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 Bear1949
 
posted on October 22, 2004 08:18:10 PM new
Wishy washy, Flip Floppin John nailed again.

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We would not be writing this had we not, only scant weeks past, found it necessary to opine on California’s new law to end crimes against goosemanity
(read"Let Them Eat Cardboard in California".

Urgently, however, it came to our attention that John Kerry went, gasp, goose hunting on a fine Ohio swing state morning, media in tow but kept at an appropriately safe shooting distance. That raises questions, some of serious import, some not.

First, how can this be? John Kerry must win California. Do the good goose-loving people of the Golden State know they will be voting for a confessed goose murderer (unless, realizing his dilemma, Kerry decides sometime tomorrow that he didn’t really shoot the goose he shot today)? Does John Kerry know that in an attempt to be photographed with yet another gun in his hands he is about to offend a large bloc of voters? Or are liberal gun grabbers just too cynical to care? Did Kerry know that on the scale of manly choices, goose hunting ranks only slightly above clay pigeons? It just ain’t bear or mountain lions at 20 feet. What is the moral difference between owning a handgun one would never use other than to defend oneself and a shotgun one does use to murder poor, innocent geese in a campaign stunt?

Now, this writer has been goose hunting. Been man hunting, too, when half a county was deputized to chase an escaped incestor through the piney woods of Georgia (it was a different time in America). We didn’t get him, but we might have if we had had John Kerry crawling around on his belly, tracking and decoying as he has previously allowed that he does when hunting.

The fact is that John Kerry is to hunting as Teresa Heinz Kerry is to someone who ever had a real job, just to keep this topical and in the family. John Kerry is to guns as kids are to toys. He wants his to himself, but he’ll take yours, too.

Perhaps shooting at fleeing geese is Mr. Kerry’s way of reminding us that he was bemedaled in Vietnam for shooting at fleeing villagers. That seems a bit bizarre, but who other than Charles Krauthammer, a trained psychiatrist, knows how such people think? Many sportsmen, of course, go hunting just for the camaraderie of being among men in fields.

John Kerry would, however, appear on no one’s list of hunter-gatherers, and bagging only one goose, which he said he was too lazy to carry, is unlikely to impress many women voters. We bet he didn’t clean his either, and besides, according to the Associated Press, no one actually saw him shoot the one kill he claimed, just as no one ever remembers him running in a marathon.

At least Bill Clinton was a real hypocrite. Goofy John Kerry is just a poor caricature.


http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/freedomline/current/in_our_opinion/john_kerry_paradox.htm




Hey, hey
Ho, ho
Kerry - sign the 1-8-0

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
[ edited by Bear1949 on Oct 22, 2004 08:20 PM ]
 
 crowfarm
 
posted on October 22, 2004 08:26:48 PM new
Did someone say flip-flop?



Social Security Surplus

BUSH PLEDGES NOT TO TOUCH SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS... "We're going to keep the promise of Social Security and keep the government from raiding the Social Security surplus." [President Bush, 3/3/01]

...BUSH SPENDS SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS The New York Times reported that "the president's new budget uses Social Security surpluses to pay for other programs every year through 2013, ultimately diverting more than $1.4 trillion in Social Security funds to other purposes." [The New York Times, 2/6/02]

2. Patient's Right to Sue

GOVERNOR BUSH VETOES PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "Despite his campaign rhetoric in favor of a patients' bill of rights, Bush fought such a bill tooth and nail as Texas governor, vetoing a bill coauthored by Republican state Rep. John Smithee in 1995. He... constantly opposed a patient's right to sue an HMO over coverage denied that resulted in adverse health effects." [Salon, 2/7/01]

...CANDIDATE BUSH PRAISES TEXAS PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "We're one of the first states that said you can sue an HMO for denying you proper coverage... It's time for our nation to come together and do what's right for the people. And I think this is right for the people. You know, I support a national patients' bill of rights, Mr. Vice President. And I want all people covered. I don't want the law to supersede good law like we've got in Texas." [Governor Bush, 10/17/00]

...PRESIDENT BUSH'S ADMINISTRATION ARGUES AGAINST RIGHT TO SUE "To let two Texas consumers, Juan Davila and Ruby R. Calad, sue their managed-care companies for wrongful denials of medical benefits ‘would be to completely undermine' federal law regulating employee benefits, Assistant Solicitor General James A. Feldman said at oral argument March 23. Moreover, the administration's brief attacked the policy rationale for Texas's law, which is similar to statutes on the books in nine other states." [Washington Post, 4/5/04]

3. Tobacco Buyout

BUSH SUPPORTS CURRENT TOBACCO FARMERS' QUOTA SYSTEM... "They've got the quota system in place -- the allotment system -- and I don't think that needs to be changed." [President Bush, 5/04]

...BUSH ADMINISTRATION WILL SUPPORT FEDERAL BUYOUT OF TOBACCO QUOTAS "The administration is open to a buyout." [White House spokeswoman Jeanie Mamo, 6/18/04]

4. North Korea

BUSH WILL NOT OFFER NUCLEAR NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM... "We developed a bold approach under which, if the North addressed our long-standing concerns, the United States was prepared to take important steps that would have significantly improved the lives of the North Korean people. Now that North Korea's covert nuclear weapons program has come to light, we are unable to pursue this approach." [President's Statement, 11/15/02]

...BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFERS NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM"Well, we will work to take steps to ease their political and economic isolation. So there would be -- what you would see would be some provisional or temporary proposals that would only lead to lasting benefit after North Korea dismantles its nuclear programs. So there would be some provisional or temporary efforts of that nature." [White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 6/23/04]

5. Abortion

BUSH SUPPORTS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE... "Bush said he...favors leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question." [The Nation, 6/15/00, quoting the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal, 5/78]

...BUSH OPPOSES A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE "I am pro-life." [Governor Bush, 10/3/00]

6. OPEC

BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES... "What I think the president ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price." [President Bush, 1/26/00]

...BUSH REFUSES TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices soaring in the United States at the beginning of 2004, the Miami Herald reported the president refused to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds." [Miami Herald, 4/1/04]

7. Iraq Funding

BUSH SPOKESMAN DENIES NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE REST OF 2004... "We do not anticipate requesting supplemental funding for '04" [White House Budget Director Joshua Bolton, 2/2/04]

...BUSH REQUESTS ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IRAQ FOR 2004 "I am requesting that Congress establish a $25 billion contingency reserve fund for the coming fiscal year to meet all commitments to our troops." [President Bush, Statement by President, 5/5/04]

8. Condoleeza Rice Testimony

BUSH SPOKESMAN SAYS RICE WON'T TESTIFY AS 'A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE'... "Again, this is not her personal preference; this goes back to a matter of principle. There is a separation of powers issue involved here. Historically, White House staffers do not testify before legislative bodies. So it's a matter of principle, not a matter of preference." [White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 3/9/04]

...BUSH ORDERS RICE TO TESTIFY: "Today I have informed the Commission on Terrorist Attacks Against the United States that my National Security Advisor, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, will provide public testimony." [President Bush, 3/30/04]

9. Science

BUSH PLEDGES TO ISSUE REGULATIONS BASED ON SCIENCE..."I think we ought to have high standards set by agencies that rely upon science, not by what may feel good or what sounds good." [then-Governor George W. Bush, 1/15/00]

...BUSH ADMINISTRATION REGULATIONS IGNORE SCIENCE "60 leading scientists—including Nobel laureates, leading medical experts, former federal agency directors and university chairs and presidents—issued a statement calling for regulatory and legislative action to restore scientific integrity to federal policymaking. According to the scientists, the Bush administration has, among other abuses, suppressed and distorted scientific analysis from federal agencies, and taken actions that have undermined the quality of scientific advisory panels." [Union of Concerned Scientists, 2/18/04]

10. Ahmed Chalabi

BUSH INVITES CHALABI TO STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS...President Bush also met with Chalabi during his brief trip to Iraq last Thanksgiving [White House Documents 1/20/04, 11/27/03]

...BUSH MILITARY ASSISTS IN RAID OF CHALABI'S HOUSE "U.S. soldiers raided the home of America's one-time ally Ahmad Chalabi on Thursday and seized documents and computers." [Washington Post, 5/20/04]

11. Department of Homeland Security

BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY..."So, creating a Cabinet office doesn't solve the problem. You still will have agencies within the federal government that have to be coordinated. So the answer is that creating a Cabinet post doesn't solve anything." [White House spokesman Ari Fleischer, 3/19/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY "So tonight, I ask the Congress to join me in creating a single, permanent department with an overriding and urgent mission: securing the homeland of America and protecting the American people." [President Bush, Address to the Nation, 6/6/02]

12. Weapons of Mass Destruction

BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories...for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." [President Bush, Interview in Poland, 5/29/03]

...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce weapons.And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went. They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll find out." [President Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]

13. Free Trade

BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE... "I believe strongly that if we promote trade, and when we promote trade, it will help workers on both sides of this issue." [President Bush in Peru, 3/23/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE "In a decision largely driven by his political advisers, President Bush set aside his free-trade principles last year and imposed heavy tariffs on imported steel to help out struggling mills in Pennsylvania and West Virginia, two states crucial for his reelection." [Washington Post, 9/19/03]

14. Osama Bin Laden

BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'" [President Bush, on Osama Bin Laden, 09/17/01]

...BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA "I don't know where he is.You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about him."[President Bush, Press Conference, 3/13/02]

15. The Environment

BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... "[If elected], Governor Bush will work to...establish mandatory reduction targets for emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury and carbon dioxide." [Bush Environmental Plan, 9/29/00]

...BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do not believe, however, that the government should impose on power plants mandatory emissions reductions for carbon dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant' under the Clean Air Act." [President Bush, Letter to Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), 3/13/03]

16. WMD Commission

BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE... "The White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and many Democrats for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to head off any new wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go beyond reports already being assembled by congressional committees and the Central Intelligence Agency." [NY Times, 1/29/04]

...BUSH SUPPORTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE "Today, by executive order, I am creating an independent commission, chaired by Governor and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look at American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence about weapons of mass destruction." [President Bush, 2/6/04]

17. Creation of the 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11." [CBS News, 5/23/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION "President Bush said today he now supports establishing an independent




 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 22, 2004 08:26:58 PM new
LOL....I've been waiting to hear from all the animal activists here how terrible this is a 4 geese were killed just so kerry could pretend he hunts. But I did notice the brand new jacket he bought for the picture taking.


I also hear he's been appealing to the women voters the last couple of days while campaigning... Guess after what teresa said...he has to make up with some of them.


oh man, he's such a phoney...


 
 kiara
 
posted on October 22, 2004 08:36:36 PM new
Lindak, I recently shot and killed three grouse so what's your point?

BTW, do you know if you approach a grouse in your vehicle it just stands there like a dummy as long as you keep the motor running? A very easy target so I get bored..........

 
 crowfarm
 
posted on October 22, 2004 08:36:57 PM new
OK Let's hear from ALL THE ANIMAL ACTIVISTS HERE . I wonder if they're numbered in the hundreds or the thousands????????


And, to even the score, bush's little photo op of him clearing brush (for 5 minutes), clearly showed the creases in his newly unfolded jacket.

And:

Personally, I have enough common sense to not expect an apology from someone when someone else has spoken....some people don't have the reasoning power to do that.

 
 Bear1949
 
posted on October 22, 2004 09:11:43 PM new
Figures crow would be the first to reply. Sympathy pains for the goose, huh crow?




Kiara, real sporting, shooting those birds from the car.



Hey, hey
Ho, ho
Kerry - sign the 1-8-0

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
 
 Bear1949
 
posted on October 22, 2004 09:28:23 PM new
Just for you craw, MORE kerry flip floppin

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This is Kerry's voting record. Print it out give it to people who defend him on what a "great guy" he is. It is obvious that he cares nothing for the unborn, the military, defense, law & order, tax relief, school choice...

ABORTION
Voted to federally fund abortions.
Voted against parental consent for minors.
Voted against ban on Partial Birth Abortion. (3 times)
Voted against ban on sending money to UN population fund if the money was sent to pay for China forced-abortion and sterilization policy.
National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL) lifetime rating of 100%
National Right to Life Committee lifetime rating of 0%

DEATH PENALTY
Opposes federal death penalty.
Voted against death penalty! for terrorists. (recently flip-flopped in 2002)
Voted against death penalty for drug-related murders.

TAXES & BUDGET
Voted against Bush tax cut and wants to repeal portions of Bush tax cut.
Voted for 1993 Clinton tax hike. (largest in history)
Voted against major tax relief packages at least 10 times.
Voted at least 5 times against balanced budget amendments.
Voted at least five times to raid The Social Security Trust Fund.

MILITARY & NATIONAL SECURITY
Voted for 7 major reductions in military funding.
Voted against Gulf War (1991).
Voted for Gulf War II (but then criticized and voted against military appropriation for troops).
Voted against MX missile.
Voted against Trident Submarine.
Voted against SDI (Strategic Defense Initiative, i.e., "Star Wars".
Favored UN control of US Troops (in the 1970s).
Supported slashing $2.6 billion from Intelligence Funding while serving as a Member of Senate Intel Committee.
Voted to kill the Bradley Fighting Vehicle.
Voted to kill the M-1 Abrams Tank.
Voted to kill every Aircraft carrier laid down from 1988 onward.
Voted to kill the Aegis anti aircraft system.
Voted to kill the F-15 Strike Eagle.
Voted to kill the F-16 E/F (Block 60).
Voted to kill the P-3 Orion upgrade.
Voted to kill the B-1.
Voted to kill the B-2.
Voted to kill the Patriot antimissile system.
Voted to kill the FA-18.
Voted to kill the F 117.

FAITH & VALUES
Voted against ban on human cloning.
Voted Against Defense of Marriage Act (to give states option to decide whether to recognize homosexual marriages in other states).
Sent letter to Massachusetts Legislature opposing Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as solely between a man and a woman.
Favors civil unions for homosexuals.
Voted to extend hate crimes protections to homosexuals.
Voted against a constitutional amendment on flag desecration.

EDUCATION
Voted against voluntary school prayer.
Voted against voucher pilot program.
Voted against approving a school-choice pilot program.

JUDGES, COURTS & LAW
Voted against confirmation of Clarence Thomas for Supreme Court Justice.
Voted against confirmation of Robert Bork for Supreme Court Justice.
Voted against confirmation William Rehnquist as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
Voted against confirmation John Ashcroft as US Attorney General.
Voted against punitive damages in products liability cases.
When Michael Dukakis was Lt. Governor From 1983-1985, Kerry Supported Granting
Prison Furloughs To Hundreds Of Massachusetts Inmates.

FOREIGN POLICY
Against linking Most Favored Nation status to China human rights record.
Voted for Kyoto Protocol on Environment that exempted major Third Word polluters.
Supported Iraq Regime change as late as January 2003.
Now has flipped-flopped For Unilateral nuclear Freeze.
Voted against deployment of INF missiles in Europe.

POLITICAL ASSOCIATIONS
Leading member of VVAW (Vietnam Veterans Against the War).
Attended and conducted antiwar and anti-American protests in the 1970s.
Organized the Protests.
Votes with Ted Kennedy an average of 94% of the time.
Received $300,000 contribution from Johnny Chung as directed by Chinese intelligence officer.
Supported Communist Sandinistas and visited with leader Communist Daniel Ortega days before Ortega flew to Moscow and received $200 million in Soviet aid.
Has a lifetime rating of 26% from Citizens Against Government Waste.
Has a lifetime rating of 0% from the National Rifle Association.
Lifetime liberal vote rating of 93% from Americans For Democratic Action (5 points higher than Ted Kennedy).
Voted with the liberal activist group, The League Of Conservation Voters, an average of 95% of the time.
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Kerry on record...

Chief Warrant Officer Ernie Bowers (ret.), who served two tours in Vietnam, where he flew US Army combat helicopters and was shot down and injured twice, sent the following for our edification.

HE SAID TO CHECK THE RECORD......WE DID

Sen. John Kerry, Democrat from Massachusetts, says he is the strongest presidential candidate on National Defense!

He said, "Check the Record."

We Did!

Here is what we learned:

In addition to those items listed above,

He voted to Kill every military appropriation for the development and deployment of every weapons system since 1988, including a bill for battle-armor for our troops.
It is most likely, with Sen. John Kerry as President and Commander in Chief of our Armed Services, that they will cease to function as effectively -- making it most difficult for our country to protect itself.
John Kerry voted to Kill all antiterrorism activities of many key agencies of the US Government:
He voted to Cut the funding of the FBI by 60%.
He voted to Cut the funding for the CIA by 80%.
He voted to Cut the funding for the NSA by 80%.


THEN,
and this should be abhorrent to almost every American Voter (whether
Democrat, Republican or! Independent), he voted to increase OUR funding for U.N operations by 800% !!


Hey, hey
Ho, ho
Kerry - sign the 1-8-0

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 22, 2004 09:46:27 PM new
His voting against the 1991 Gulf war will say something to those clear minded people who see the excuse he uses now for his flip=flop on the Iraq war. He complains constantly that this President should have gotten more of our allies to join us. But then...look....we had a TON of allies in 1991...and he still voted against it.


I think the other issues on that list that will be the cause of more black voters choosing to re-elect this President are the school vouchers that would give THEM a choice of schools....and all the moral issues. I believe that's why he's campaigning so hard in the black churches this past week. When all is said and done I believe we're going to be surprised at just how many blacks choose President Bush. He has done more for them than the dems have since the '60's and I think the brighter ones notice that.


 
 kiara
 
posted on October 22, 2004 10:05:49 PM new
Kiara, real sporting, shooting those birds from the car.

Kind of like fishing, I figured a neocon would bite and jump to conclusions.

First off, I don't drive a car when I'm out there. And I've never shot grouse from a vehicle either. I was equating it with something else....


 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on October 23, 2004 04:50:12 AM new
I want to hear more about the grouse hunting... that was something I enjoyed as a youngun...

We already know what a loser kerry is...



AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

Re-Elect President Bush... the only true choice.
 
 Bear1949
 
posted on October 23, 2004 05:53:38 PM new
Kiara, you stated BTW, do you know if you approach a grouse in your vehicle it just stands there like a dummy as long as you keep the motor running? A very easy target so I get bored..........

How is that Jumping to conclusions.






Hey, hey
Ho, ho
Kerry - sign the 1-8-0

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
 
 crowfarm
 
posted on October 23, 2004 06:08:43 PM new
Kiara, next time use shorter words and type very slowly for the mentally challenged.

 
 kiara
 
posted on October 23, 2004 06:27:38 PM new
Kiara, real sporting, shooting those birds from the car.

I'm still smiling about Bear thinking I'd be in a car hanging a gun out the window and does he envision me in heels and a mini skirt also?

It's out on old logging roads where I'd never dream of bringing my car....... we usually park the truck and then walk in, flush out the grouse and I take out the ones that fly off or up into the trees. They aren't that easy to spot, even after they fall.

I don’t hunt grouse very often as I mostly prefer target shooting but I go along if the rock star begs hard enough.

 
 
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