maggiemuggins
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posted on December 7, 2004 10:02:03 PM new
What are your thoughts on National ID Cards?
What do you consider the Pro's and Con's of such a monitoring system?
I wonder if they would really do much good in keeping the "bad guys" out, or serve only as an internal surveillance and monitoring system for the average Joe citizen?
Any thoughts on this?
Maggie
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crowfarm
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posted on December 8, 2004 12:31:24 AM new
""""serve only as an internal surveillance and monitoring system for the average Joe citizen?""""
This was the plan.
Hey maggie, have ya heard about the 2 TRILLION dollars bush wants to spend to "fix" Social Security? This equals less SS and more taes....smart move !!!!!!!!!!!
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fenix03
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posted on December 8, 2004 02:54:53 AM new
Maggie - I am against them, I don't think they are going to accomplish a damn thing because lets face it... our government is no where near organized enough to be able to deal with them. By the time they get a master program together, any semblance of a data base compiled, and the necessary hardware out to all agencies and outlets, everything will be so outdated as to be deemed useless anyway. I mean they have not even managed to integrate watch lists yet. There are 8 seperate lists that Border Patrol agents have to search thru when they have a "person of interest" and then it's still quite possible to miss something. We implemented nlazer border crossing cards for Mexican citizens that cross the border regularly a couple years ago but last I heard San Ysidro - the busiest entrance in the country still didn't have the the equipment to be able to utilize the fingerprint encoding on them.
It will very effectively waste a few billion dollars in the process though and I'm sure there will be a few pork barrell spending attachments on the funding bill that will give us all a good giggle or two.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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maggiemuggins
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posted on December 8, 2004 07:57:33 AM new
I agree, a total waste of money...not to mention more chipping away at our civil liberties ...
I don't like the feeling of being tracked and this basically is a tracking device..
Maggie
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calamity49
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posted on December 8, 2004 11:58:39 AM new
I agree with you two. It's a total waste of money. We are already tracked enough. Besides that some people who don't drive (like the Amish) already have ID cards so they can give checks. I don't know if it is state or federal but there is a program already in place.
Calamity
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yellowstone
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posted on December 8, 2004 03:24:12 PM new
In a small way we allready have national id cards. You've all heard of commercial drivers liscenses. These are issued by individual states at their motor vehichle department offices but they are federally regulated. They are issued to persons that drive commercial vehichles over 26000 pounds. IMO it would be real easy to make all drivers liscenses federally regulated and make them as national id cards.
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Libra63
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posted on December 8, 2004 08:04:26 PM new
yellowstone that is one of the problems. Using a legal drivers license is not the way to go. Illegal aliens can apply and get drivers licenses in many states and then if you know the director of the state drivers license board they can be gotten illegally. Just ask the people of Illinois.
Do we want big brother to watch us and track our every move?
Chipping children under a certain age would certainly stop abduction and I am in favor of that, but then have it removed after that age.
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etexbill
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posted on December 15, 2004 09:41:15 AM new
Hillary likes 'em:
"I am, you know, adamantly against
illegal immigrants. ...[I favor] at least a visa ID, some kind of
entry-and-exit ID. And...perhaps, although I'm not a big fan of it, we
might have to move towards an ID system even for citizens." --Hillary
Rodham Clinton Rodham
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maggiemuggins
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posted on December 15, 2004 04:26:48 PM new
Well..if Hilary likes them..they must be a good thing! LOL Maggie
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Libra63
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posted on December 15, 2004 04:33:25 PM new
Right maggie 
It will be a difficult task to do. If they can find a fool proof way of doing them fine but there are so many jokers out there that can find ways to duplicate them, it is going to take awhile.
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To Quote John Kerry in his concession speech. "But in an american election, there are no losers, because whether or not our candidates are successful, the next morning we all wake up as Americans
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profe51
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posted on December 15, 2004 05:46:17 PM new
National California Resident cards. Great idea!!
"May I see your ID please?....oops, I see you're Californians, sorry, the property is no longer on the market"
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Dick Cheney: "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11..."
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etexbill
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posted on December 16, 2004 06:39:23 AM new
"Well..if Hilary likes them..they must be a good thing! LOL Maggie"
Hillary liked her husband too, and you see what came of that. LOL
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classicrock000
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posted on December 16, 2004 09:18:27 AM new
DOH !!
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