posted on December 8, 2004 01:14:50 PM new
My ex-sister-in-law's funeral was yesterday. It was very simple and she was cremated. The bill was $11,0000.00 which had to be paid immediately... that's the first thing that bugs me. The next, is that while a person is in the worse possible state of being grief sticken, they make you sign all these documents without you having a clue what you're signing. They make you feel guilty if you don't pick the best of the best for your "loved one" and coax you into signing for unwanted things becuase THEY feel "that's what she would've wanted" type thing.
I feel this is all a big scam. They don't give 2 hoots about your "loved one". All they care about is cash. JERKS!!!!!!!!!!!
posted on December 8, 2004 01:40:18 PM new
Exactly...correct. Americans again prove Pres Bush is the best man for the job
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." --John Stuart Mill
posted on December 8, 2004 02:00:45 PM new
I think the system is barbaric.
I have purchased a mausoleum crypt. It is ready to have the dates engraved on the front and has a brass vase attached for flowers .. sounds morbid.. but I decided that I would pay for all my funeral arrangements ahead of time so it would be taken care of and not a burden on my children. The building is really nice inside, with tasteful couches and tables for visitors to sit awhile..We will be on the second story!
I will be cremated and so the ashes in the urn will go into the crypt. Paid for and just waiting for me...LOL
Maggie, I think that's wonderful for you to do that. I used to think it was awful for parents to have to take care of their own arrangements but now I'm starting to think everyone should. Not so much to ease the burden on a family, but to insure these funeral people don't soak them.
I think about families that didn't get along. What a great opportunity for a funeral home to let you think that buying the best will ease your guilt. And what about baby coffins? They're almost the same price as the big ones. Why is that, I wonder?
posted on December 8, 2004 02:36:14 PM new
When you're dead you're dead so what does it matter how your remains are put to rest. Therefore, when my time comes, as far as I am concerned they can just wrap my dead carcass in a blanket and stick me in a hole. Ok, if they have to have a casket for me, just make it a simple one made out of pine. Or if they creameate me, just throw the dammn ashes away or put them in a used mayonaise jar, I don't care. I don't need to have anything fancy and expensive.
posted on December 8, 2004 03:20:12 PM new
Yellow.. I felt the same way, but then realized if I didn't buy something.. when the time came.. my kids would be faced with the expense.. and you just can't dig a hole somewhere these days.. and the cheapest pine box is 1000.00 then the burial site is thousands etc.. so unless someone you know will have your remains cremated it gets expensive no matter what you do.. even cremation and an urn cost around 500.00..
Birth and Death.. they get you coming and going!! LOL Maggie
posted on December 8, 2004 03:26:03 PM new
LOL... Classy.. tried for the penthouse suite but they were taken.. had to settle for one floor down.. hee hee...
Maggie Christmas is wierd when else do you sit around a dying tree and eat candy out of your socks?
posted on December 8, 2004 03:40:07 PM new
Maggie, trying to not disrespect you or your wishes with this but if you were my Mom, I would just have you creamated the cheapest way and then i'd sell your mausoleum crypt to someone else after it was all done to pay for your funeral.
Do you really want your loved ones going to a set place where your remains are set to rest to mourn over your death.
It just seems too organised to have people mourning at a specific place. To me it seems that it's better for each to mourn in their own way, wherever they happen to be at.
posted on December 8, 2004 03:47:22 PM new
Wow, KD, and I thought cremation was cheaper! It cost me $5,000 to bury my husband and I'm still paying on it. They call all the time with threats. I just tell them to go ahead and dig him up. What would he care? Besides, they can't not only from the legal aspect, but I paid cash for the plot. Step one foot on my land. . .LOL!
Seriously, they can be vultures. BTW, I'm sorry to hear about your sister-in-law! Ex or not, it's painful. My condolences to you and your family.
Cheryl
"Success in almost any field depends more on energy and drive than it does on intelligence. This explains why we have so many stupid leaders."
-Sloan Wilson
posted on December 8, 2004 04:15:16 PM new
Luckily there are clear orders on all sides of my family - cremate and scatter the ashes. No questions, no guilt. Let the docs have any parts they can use for others then burn what's left.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
posted on December 8, 2004 04:32:55 PM new
LOL...Yellow... once I'm gone they can do what ever they want.. I just don't want them to have any expense.. that's why I took care of it ahead of time.. and as far as them coming to the crypt to mourn or pay respects.. probably for the funeral and never again.....LOL.. I agree with you, everyone should mourn in their own way.. visiting a grave site isn't important to me..
Hell there is a huge booming business in pet burial, cremation and cemeteries!! Now that's where I draw the line.
Maggie Christmas is wierd when else do you sit around a dying tree and eat candy out of your socks?
posted on December 8, 2004 04:35:03 PM new
So I guess that Twelvepole's final thread titled "Twelvepoles Death" in a sense is his own funeral, akin to it being a cyberspace funeral.
posted on December 8, 2004 05:16:39 PM new
"Hell there is a huge booming business in pet burial, cremation and cemeteries!! Now that's where I draw the line. "
well I dont know about that magster..I like my wifes siamese cat better then most people
posted on December 8, 2004 05:29:44 PM new
OMG...they are some crazy cats!
I think they are all carrying an insane gene! Pretty cats but crazier than hell.
We have a pet cemetery near by and they have a crematorium..where you can reduce fluffy to ashes if you prefer..135.00 for the ashes and 200.00 for a burial.. I love my pets, but once they are gone.. I have a couple of acres and will find a nice spot for them..
Maggie
Woke up this morning
Put on my slippers
Walked in the kitchen and died
And oh what a feeling!
When my soul
Went thru the ceiling
And on up into heaven I did ride
When I got there they did say
John, it happened this way
You slipped upon the floor
And hit your head
And all the angels say
Just before you passed away
These were the very last words
That you said:
Chorus:
Please don’t bury me
Down in that cold cold ground
No, I’d druther have em cut me up
And pass me all around
Throw my brain in a hurricane
And the blind can have my eyes
And the deaf can take both of my ears
If they don’t mind the size
Give my stomach to milwaukee
If they run out of beer
Put my socks in a cedar box
Just get em out of here
Venus de milo can have my arms
Look out! I’ve got your nose
Sell my heart to the junkman
And give my love to rose
Give my feet to the footloose
Careless, fancy free
Give my knees to the needy
Don’t pull that stuff on me
Hand me down my walking cane
It’s a sin to tell a lie
Send my mouth way down south
And kiss my ass goodbye
posted on December 8, 2004 07:55:34 PM new
This is what wills are for. Of course you have to have someone that will follow the instructions.
Me - Cremation and spread where ever my daughter wants me to be. Funerals are a rip off. I do not need to ride in a limo after I die, who cares. I had a friend who's husband passed away he loved the water and his ashes went into Lake Michigan.
It costs thousands of dollars to bring a child into this world and about the same for an adult to leave it.
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To Quote John Kerry in his concession speech. "But in an american election, there are no losers, because whether or not our candidates are successful, the next morning we all wake up as Americans
posted on December 8, 2004 08:42:20 PM new
My grandfather was a plumber. He always said when he died, he wanted to be cremated and flushed down the toilet. He said he'd always wanted to see one from the inside.
My Dad doesn't want to be cremated. He's got a post-hole digger set aside. He says he wants us to make him a fresh post-hole and just screw him in.
BOTH are true!
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posted on December 8, 2004 09:41:46 PM new
Problem is ,,,,,LAWS that protect/benefit the undertakers,,,,,,which make THEM Rich......Ya can't just dig a hole in the back yard. You CAN flush of course after PAYING for a cremation....
Personally,,but have never written this down,,,, and will more than likely end up in a local VET Cemetary,,,,,like Boring Riverside, Cal. If I don't get things in writing,,,I'd like to be creamated,,,,my ashes mixed in with Gun powder and Blow away in a BLAST from a 155 mm Cannon in whatever WAR we are in. Might sit for 20 years in some arsenal.....BUT,,,,,,eventually,,,BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! There goes JACK!
posted on December 9, 2004 06:34:03 AM new
Heres some famous last words about death & dying:
Louisa M. Alcott
"Is it not meningitis?"
John Barrymore (Actor)
"Die? I should say not, dear fellow. No Barrymore would allow such a conventional thing to happen to him."
Ludwig van Beethoven
"Friends applaud, the comedy is over."
Humphrey Bogart(Actor)
"I should never have switched from Scotch to Martinis."
Julius Gaius Caesar
"Et tu, Brute?" ("You too, Brutus?"
Frederic Chopin (Composer)
"The earth is suffocating... Swear to make them cut me open, so that I won't be buried alive."
Steven Grover Cleveland (22nd and 24th US President)
"I have tried so hard to do right."
Harold Lillis "Bing" Crosby
"It was a great game." (After his last round of golf)
Charles Darwin
"I am not the least afraid to die."
James Dean
"That guy's got to stop... He'll see us." (Before being killed in a car accident.)
Diana, Princess of Wales
"My God. What's happened?"
Emily Dickinson
"... the fog is rising"
Thomas Edison
"It's very beautiful over there." (Upon gazing out of his bedroom window.)
Dwight D. Eisenhower
"I've always loved my wife, my children, and my grandchildren, and I've always loved my country. I want to go. God, take me"
Just as an aside, my mother right before she died said: "oh look, here come the forefathers!" LOL!! Of course she was way doped-up, but I really wonder what she was seeing there? Maybe they were coming to greet her over to the other side?
posted on December 9, 2004 11:52:32 AM new
"Frederic Chopin (Composer)
The earth is suffocating... Swear to make them cut me open, so that I won't be buried alive."
You *DO* realize the true story behind why people are embalmed, don't you? Preservation has very little to do with it, due to modern refrigeration.
The whole issue was a result of people's fear of being buried alive. After you've been embalmed, that's not very likely. If you aren't really dead when you hit the mortician, you will be pretty quickly.
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