Twelvepole
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posted on January 16, 2005 08:13:48 AM new
Just wandering what if anything have the liberal people of the RT given to the tsunami relief? Or is your humanitarian act just that...
Not worried about the good conservatives on this board... they probably have given generously already...
Me? I have donated $100... figure that is enough...
[ edited by Twelvepole on Jan 16, 2005 08:15 AM ]
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fenix03
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posted on January 16, 2005 08:33:46 AM new
I was going to until I watched a news story about all of the money that would have been going to the African relief efforts this year that are not going to make there because it's been redirected to Tsunami Relief charities. After hearing that, I thought that my funds might be better used in a different direction. I donated to KeepAChildAlive.org which provides ARV treatment to HIV positive children and parents in Africa.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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CBlev65252
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posted on January 16, 2005 08:59:45 AM new
I donate to the American Red Cross so I think I donated to the tsunami relief. Watching all the news shows, particularly MSNBC, is really heart wrenching. What an awful loss. Entire generations wiped out in a single blow. I could never imagine going through the pain they are suffering physically and emotionally. And you can sign me . . . a liberal.
Cheryl
"No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." ~ P.J. O'Rourke
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fenix03
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posted on January 16, 2005 09:18:22 AM new
Cheryl - important lesson learned from 9/11 and from the San Diego debacle... When donating to the Red Cross you must specifiy where you want your funds directed in the memo portion of your check otherwise they put them in the general fund and for all you know, you just paid for a new phone system or the Office Depot Bill. It's sad but after those two incidents, I don't trust the Red Cross that much.
I'll stick with private focused charities. No matter how much flack the French Doctors without Borders group got for it, you have to respect a charity that tells people that they have all the funds they need to cover the incident in question and suggests they redirect their donation to other groups still in need.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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replaymedia
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posted on January 16, 2005 09:41:01 AM new
Just this morning our church came out with a neat idea. They had several dozen 5 gallon buckets with a list of supplies inside. Everyone who was interested took a bucket and is to buy the supplies on the list- cleaning supplies, tools, and other things. The buckets will be distributed to people within Ohio who have had significant damage due to the floods we've had in the past week.
With this kind of plan, it's pretty difficult for anyone to be corrupt and line their pockets when all you have is windex, rubber gloves, a few snacks and crowbars in a plastic bucket. It's also a much more "hands on" approach than just giving your money to a bunch of potentially corrupt aid workers.
And I regularly support our local food bank, which feeds thousands of local people each year. I haven't actually volunteered to work there (yet... I may someday) but give weekly.
That being said:
I'm having a really hard time coming up with the wording for this next part...
I feel sorry for the Indonesians who lost everything, especially those who lost their children, but I just cannot get around the fact that Indonesia has the highest Muslim populaion on the earth, The Indonesians may not be suicide bombing anyone, but they still hate us with the core of their being.
I can only think that if the tables were turned and the disaster happened here, they would be celebrating in the streets, not sending aid. But then again, that's exactly what happened on 9/11, and we saw it on film.
No. I prefer to give my money to help those in need nearby. If I ever need help, no Indonesian is going to assist me in any way. If the UN wants to help, fine. That's what they are there for. I don't personally support the UN, but that is one of their uses.
Now, let's see how many people tear up that statement...
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Gtootie
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posted on January 16, 2005 09:59:13 AM new
The day before Thanksgiving a tornado went through a small town a few miles north of here. 70% of the homes were destroyed as well as the school and several businesses. FEMA says that the town was not large enough to qualify for federal aid. The State is broke and does not have the funds to help them. These people lost everything and they are receiving no assistance. My donations went to them.
Be kind. Everyone is fighting their own secret battles.
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Libra63
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posted on January 16, 2005 10:03:36 AM new
We are leaving the Tsunami relief to the wealthy actors and actresses.
We are donating to the "Feed the Children". A Fund to feed the poor in the US and giving locally. The Indonesia government seems to be ungrateful for the help they are getting, but I guess they just can't see what is happening to their population.
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crowfarm
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posted on January 16, 2005 11:49:58 AM new
I think it was some historical figure ...maybe Jesus(?) ..who said charitable works are worthless unless you publicize them and expect the recipients to kiss your butt forever.
If you don't brag about them to make yourself look good, like good christians, they don't count in "heaven".
So now we know who earned "heaven".
Unless you remember that anyone (including myself) can type anything..........it doesn't make it true.
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twig125silver
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posted on January 16, 2005 11:57:03 AM new
I have a sculpture of my husband's on eBay now, for the Red Cross. They'll use it for wherever the need is most. (With the hurricanes, tsunamis, mudslides and now avalanches..they'll know where it's needed.) We got a letter from the Red Cross, just couldn't get in Missionfish.
We've also donated cash to the many different groups raising funds.
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replaymedia
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posted on January 16, 2005 12:17:23 PM new
So crowfarm, what's your point?
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stopwhining
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posted on January 16, 2005 07:09:37 PM new
her point is -she did not give anything.
neither did I.
There are plenty of money in Asia ,remember where those barbie dolls,GI Joe were made??
Donald Trump loves those Asians who buy his condos and patronise his casinos.
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dadofstickboy
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posted on January 16, 2005 07:20:14 PM new
Donate your hard earned money!
Who's going to get it, the poor people in the background who lost their shacks and have nothing?
Or the wealthy resort owners who need the millions to rebuild the resorts to pull in the tourist dollars?
My guess is the latter,after all the poor got their bucket of rice, what more do they need!
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profe51
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posted on January 16, 2005 07:30:23 PM new
I gave. The local ranch owners hereabout had an auction of excess stock to raise funds. I donated two yearling rams and a market ready steer. My class went to town last weekend and washed cars. They raised almost 800 dollars.What's your point? Is this some kind of contest? What do I win?
Oh yeah...didn't you make some big deal swan song good bye nice knowing you, I didn't really mean most of what I said, just enjoyed pissing you off hoo-haw a while back? What happened? No good chains to yank in your neighborhood?
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crowfarm
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posted on January 16, 2005 07:39:29 PM new
No , stopwhining, that wasn't the point at all.....please reread that post.......
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Twelvepole
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posted on January 16, 2005 08:20:27 PM new
Aww profe I missed you to... if you needed a point, why did you post?
Or be like crowfart and post not point whatsoever....
My point is you libs like piss and moan about humanitarian aid... put your money where your mouth is...
Oh yeah and here's hoping McCain runs in 2008... anyone that pisses you off would have to be a good candidate...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 16, 2005 08:31:08 PM new
"I think it was some historical figure ...maybe Jesus(?) ..who said charitable works are worthless unless you publicize them and expect the recipients to kiss your butt forever. If you don't brag about them to make yourself look good, like good christians, they don't count in "heaven". So now we know who earned "heaven"."
LMHO!!!
Twelve, could you be ANY more transparent? You think because you donated $100.00 that's a big deal?? ahahahah....ahahaha.........ahahaha
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Twelvepole
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posted on January 16, 2005 08:32:41 PM new
How much did you give kraft? Come on fess up... you socialist liberal you... you should of sold the suv and given it all...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 16, 2005 08:46:26 PM new
Unlike you, I don't feel the need to broadcast how much I gave, you fake religious loving woman hating capitalist oinker.
So Twelve, you obviously had to do some time in jail or you would've posted. Is that what's made you so testies?
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crowfarm
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posted on January 16, 2005 08:52:04 PM new
Well, I don't know about Kraft but I wrote a check for several thousand dollars(modesty keeps me from saying just how MANY thousands)to the Tsunami relief efforts. But it was just one of SO many checks I write!
Sold the Bentley and bought shoes for all the Boy Scouts.
I do the Walk for Orphan Pets, Walk to Save the Chickens from the Brutality of KFC, and four or five cancer walks a week.
I spent 20 years with the Peace Corps living in a shack with a dirt floor helping poor people plant their crops.
I donated my home to a homeless family and now I live in a shelter.
I have built dozens of houses for Habitat for Humanity until my hands bled.
I encouraged Mother Theresa when she just wanted to chuck it all.
I was awarded the National Philanthropic Award several times for my saintly contributions to saving the world.
Aren't I a wonderful christian ? I AM going to heaven!
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 16, 2005 09:24:48 PM new
Oh woopie-do. That's nothing compared to what I give daily, but I'm too humble to give an amount. (It's alot.)
P.S. I'm not bragging, but I'm known as the Mother Theresa of Canada.
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crowfarm
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posted on January 16, 2005 09:27:27 PM new
Aww C'mon, Kraft, unless you brag it doesn't count!
Don't you want to go to heaven?
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 16, 2005 09:32:40 PM new
"Don't you want to go to heaven?"
Not really. I can't picture smiling for eternity. It's hard enough when company stays too long.
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crowfarm
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posted on January 16, 2005 09:48:48 PM new
Ya, don't ya hate it when your face muscles start freezing up?
I was only joking about wanting to go to heaven (I'll leave that to the good "christians" ...I already live in what I consider heaven and when I die I'm staying right HERE!
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stonewallz
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posted on January 17, 2005 03:36:51 AM new
Gave my money to the World Society for the Protection of Animals. Not just the humans who were caught up in the disaster.
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Twelvepole
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posted on January 17, 2005 05:06:35 AM new
Aww isn't that sweet crowfart got a new best buddy...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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NearTheSea
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posted on January 17, 2005 10:00:12 AM new
Tulleys coffee is giving 100% of the profit made from their Sumatra brand coffee to the tsuami relief. You have to find a Tulleys store, they don't have them in the supermarket (they have Tulleys at Albertsons, but it has to have the stamp 'Tsunami Relief' on it)
I'm not sure now if Tulleys is nationwide like Starbucks, or not. But they are all over here in Seattle.. The plant for roasting the beans is here.
just a thought, if your a huge coffee fan.
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