posted on August 10, 2005 10:57:37 AM new
Linda, I heard talk last year about Alberta wanting to separate (they have most of the oil) but didn't know the others wanted to join too. I guess because Quebec has been threatening to do it for 40 years now, but nothing ever materializes, makes me wonder if any province will separate in my lifetime. Personally, I wish Quebec wasn't part of Canada. They have a corrupt way of operating that makes the rest of Canada and our government look bad... oops, I almost went into a rant there!
Kiara, since you live in BC, have you heard what's going on?
posted on August 10, 2005 05:54:23 PM new
Thanks, KD....they have more of the oil huh? Which is getting more and more valuable as time goes on. Maybe that's why they are getting more support for this separation now than they have in the past? To have that revenue to themselves.
huh...just caught my eye and I hadn't heard a word about it. Thanks for sharing what you do know.
posted on August 10, 2005 07:04:09 PM new
Though I haven't heard anything recently, there have always been rumblings about the western provinces leaving Canada because they are ignored by Ottawa.
I think Alberta has the most oil in the entire world.
"Oil sands currently represent 40% of Alberta's total oil production and about one-third of all the oil produced by Canada. By 2005, oil sands production is expected to represent 50% of Canada's total crude oil output and 10% of North American production. Although tar sands occur in more than 70 countries, the two largest are Canada and Venezuela, with the bulk being found in four different regions of Alberta, Canada: areas of Athabasca, Wabasha, Cold Lake and Peace River. The sum of these covers an area of nearly 77,000 km2. In fact, the reserve that is deemed to be technologically retrievable today is estimated at 280-300Gb (billion barrels). This is larger than the Saudi Arabia oil reserves, which are estimated at 240Gb. The total reserves for Alberta, including oil not recoverable using current technology, are estimated at 1,700- 2,500Gb."
posted on August 10, 2005 07:10:43 PM newhuh...just caught my eye and I hadn't heard a word about it. Thanks for sharing what you do know...
For two posters from Canada that are so throughly informed about the U.S., what a surprize it seemed to take two days to find anything out about whats going on in their own backyard!!
posted on August 10, 2005 07:37:35 PM new
It was just a silly poll that was taken and it's not really happening.
"At least one-third of Western Canadians think it's time for their provinces to consider quitting Canada, a new poll suggests.
The survey was commissioned by Western Standard magazine, a right-leaning bimonthly news and opinion magazine founded in 2004 by Ezra Levant, a former Reform Party and Alliance Party activist."
posted on August 10, 2005 07:59:54 PM new
Yeah, lots of oil, Linda. Alberta wants to become a super power, while Quebec is happy being greedy and deceitful (they make lots of money for Canada and certain politicians). Maybe Alberta can fight Quebec and do us all a favour!
Kiara, one thing I read about the oil sands is the cost of processing it is really expensive. Maybe that's why gas is $1.00 a litre. What are you paying?
2 days to find anything? Who are you referring to, Double? Linda just posted this today, Meathead.
posted on August 10, 2005 08:58:41 PM new
LOL....sorry you couldn't understand my post maggie.
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The research was conducted by pollster Faron Ellis, a political science professor at Lethbridge Community College, who surveyed 1,448 adult western Canadians between June 29 and July 5.
The results are considered accurate within plus or minus 2.6 percentage point, 19 times out of 20.
Ellis noted that surprisingly, separatist sentiment appeared to run highest among young people - 37 per cent of respondents between the ages of 18 and 29 were open to the notion of breaking away from Canada.
AND the number of people answering this poll....was just under 13,000.
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kiara...I'm not wasting my time trying to get ANY 'point' across to you. You don't grasp even simple concepts....like opinions vs. facts.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 10, 2005 09:15:58 PM new
Sorry if my correction seemed rude, Linda..I knew it was a typo and thought you'd want to correct it..no offense meant.
posted on August 10, 2005 09:29:15 PM new
And my car hums along nicely when it has a tank full of premium high octave, too Profe! Just playing, Linda..
posted on August 11, 2005 08:44:26 AM new
It seems to me that Canada has always struggled with her identity...From Province to Province, like the landscape changes so does the face of the people.. each province seems to have their own distinct personality... from what I have observed..totally different one from the other.. and each not so willing to assimilate.. I have heard Quebecois, speak of themselves as a separate entity, as do the people from Alberta, British Columbia, Newfoundland and Ontario etc..all proud to be from that Province..they are Quebecois for example first and Canadians second.. This is just my observation..
I am not saying that they wouldn't come together if need be.. but that sense of unity doesn't seem to be strong.. Feel free to correct my observation, Kraft and Kiara..if you think I've got an incorrect view of things..
posted on August 11, 2005 11:27:28 AM new
Hi Maggie, in B.C. there is a more laid-back lifestyle with long hot summers and mild winters (except up north). There is fishing and forestry and many entrepreneurs in B.C. Alberta is oil and cowboy and ranching country. Then there are the prairies with the hard working farmers. Ontario has the seat of government and lots of industry as well as excellent people like Kraft. Quebec is almost like a different country. The Maritime provinces on the east coast have their own lifestyle similar in some ways to the New Englanders.
Each province probably thinks the government doesn't pay enough attention to them. I see Canadians as very tolerant and accepting of most others but they will speak out on issues they don’t agree with. Most people just seem to do their own thing, very proud to be individuals with their own identity and don't worry so much about the flag-waving and unity, yet most everyone is proud to be Canadian. Almost everyone I know speaks kindly of America because they visit there often and have friends and family there so pay attention to what happens there too.
posted on August 11, 2005 02:12:17 PM new
I agree with you 100% Kiara. I'd love to live in BC! Because Bush lets his big industry buddies polute the air, the smog here in southern Ontario is really bad. And it's been getting worse each year, forcing people with alergies, etc. to move up north or to other provinces, or stay inside all summer.
Maybe that's why they are getting more support for this separation now than they have in the past? To have that revenue to themselves.
