posted on January 13, 2009 01:34:37 PM new
Does it cover kidney dialysis treatment?
Is it free?
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Economic Reform act of Chairman Obama of the socialist States of America :
10 ounces of meat per month,half a yard of cotton per year per adult.
Hellilujah!
posted on January 13, 2009 08:09:08 PM new
yes,the person is a Canadian citizen.
Been living in Canada for 16 years and qualify for medicare.
He also takes prescription drug,is that much cheaper in Canada?
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Economic Reform act of Chairman Obama of the socialist States of America :
10 ounces of meat per month,half a yard of cotton per year per adult.
Hellilujah!
posted on January 14, 2009 05:48:38 AM new
Pixiamom, affordable health care for all citizens of this country such as one similar to the Canadian system would be wonderful regardless of what you may call it.
posted on January 14, 2009 06:00:36 AM new
And, although I doubt that we will benefit from a health care system such as that which you may call "socialized medicine", I'm sure that the Obama administration will reverse this last minute rule by Bush.
"In a rule that went into effect on December 8th, the administration also limited vision and dental care for more than 50 million low-income Americans who rely on Medicaid. "This means the states are going to have to pick up the tab or cut the services at a time when a majority of states are in a deficit situation," says Bass of OMB Watch. "It's a horrible time to do this." To make matters worse, the administration has also raised co-payments for Medicaid, forcing families on poverty wages to pay up to 10 percent of the cost for doctor visits and medicine. One study suggests that co-payments could cause Medicaid patients to skip nearly a fifth of all prescription-drug treatments. "People who have nothing are being asked to pay for services they rely upon to live," says Elaine Ryan, vice president of government relations for AARP. "Imposing co-pays on the poorest and sickest people in the United States is cynical and cruel."
posted on January 14, 2009 10:14:50 AM new
Hwahwa, the person should check with the province he lives in to find out what costs are covered.
I agree there is a certain irony between Hwahwa's post and her signature line.
Kind of reminds me of someone who used to post here and was somewhat ignorant about the Canadian health system so constantly bashed it and socialized medicine but bragged about her own relatives who could afford health care but took advantage of resources in the US system that should have been used by those more needy.
posted on January 14, 2009 10:26:30 AM new
Hwahwa isn't alone in this hypocrisy.
OTOH, every benefit is available to those for whom it's legal, whether or not they're talking out of both sides of their mouth. And, to be fair, if they're paying for it, they're entitled to it. We, on the sidelines, are equally entitled to snicker at them
My hope is that since we've nationalized banks, insurance companies, auto companies, etc., maybe universally available health care won't make people look under their beds for the Communists.
posted on January 14, 2009 11:30:55 AM new
I take advantage of our 'socialist' health care when needed, have always paid the share I'm required to and I don't abuse the system.
On the other hand, while I realize there are problems, I don't constantly bash the system and say how evil it is. Nor do I think I'm entitled to it and those less fortunate should be left without treatment.
posted on January 14, 2009 11:54:57 AM new
Helen,
I think (not sure) that Pixia was being sarcastic, considering some of hwahwa's comments in the past. Maybe I am wrong. I wish we had medical for all.
posted on January 14, 2009 02:48:28 PM new
You have to laugh>
"I've always paid...share and don't abuse...."
The major reason "entitlement" programs don't work is everyone is "entitled" to MORE.
My friend's wife works for the state. She has this elaborate health plan with HMO, $2 prescriptions, etc. Any sniffle, the kid goes to the doctor. This kid has had more antibiotics shoved down her throat than I've had in my entire life. And the reason? "It don't cost nuttin'".
posted on January 14, 2009 03:06:27 PM new
Pixiamom,
I feel sorry for you,
English must be your first and only language,is that right?
You and Pelosi are like bulls in china shop.
You wanna fight,go take a lesson first on how to read and decipher what it means.
A question on Canadian medicare and is it free?
Does it imply I want it free?
Pathetic fool!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also feel sorry for your kids to have an idiot mom like you!
Go blank blank blank on some ballpark franks!
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Economic Reform act of Chairman Obama of the socialist States of America :
10 ounces of meat per month,half a yard of cotton per year per adult.
Hellilujah!
posted on January 14, 2009 03:41:49 PM new
Most of you know little or none about the Chinese Communist regime under Chairman Mao when he decided to take the country under some sort of economic reform.
The results were disastrous,folks were placed on ration,each person gets 10 ounces of meat per month and 1/2 yard of cotton per year.
Every time there is a famine,a delegate was sent to Canada to buy grains.Since the Chinese currency is not convertible,and the Chinese decided it is worth more than the HK currency,many HK folks who have relatives in China have no choice but to use their hard earned currency to buy the worthless Chinese dollars so their family in China can sustain a meager living.
Some would cross the border to mail care packages and they have to make excuses at customs why they want to bring food and clothes into the country.
Telling the truth like govt is inept and therefore folks are suffering could place that person in jail.
relatives often use the same stationary and envelope for correspondence,always finding blank space along the margin or back of the letter to scribble down messages and mail them back as paper is scarce,so is pencil and few own fountain pens and forget about ballpoint pens,thats too bourgeoise !
Sometimes they will enclose a sample of what they eat like peeled treebarks,in some area they just go to the beach and help themselves with handful of sand!
Under the Communist regime,govt promised everyone will get to eat,but they fail to tell them what they will be eating!
As for healthcare,it is either free or very affordable,if you can find an adequate medical clinic in your area.
Were the people happier under a new regime?
Well,in a way yes,as they look around and see everyone is in the same boat as they are,of course there were always exception,the high level govt officials get their chicken from a special farm fed with better grains and a handful who received foreign aid from their overseas relatives enjoy better amenities .
Most households do not own a phone or tv set or car,there are very few forms of entertainment,most theatres featured boring movies with a revolutionary theme and the radios are always blasting with news of harvests and revolutionary deeds and ideas!
Govt spewn out tons of statistics which are just plain lies of how much they have produced be it grain,steel etc and how much people want to keep the revolutionary spirit going!
No one dares to speak up lest they get 'struggled'.Communities often meet in the evening and encourage its members to tell on each other for their anti revolutionary deeds,real or imaginary!
Those who are deemed 'counter revolutionary' see their pay cut and meager 'privilege' taken away.
No one dares to speak up,intellectuals,petite bourgeoise,offcprings of capitalists were shunned and ignorant loud mouth ones with a working class background were honored and promoted to lead.
People were jealous of others who have more than they do,and what do these people have?
You would laugh,they were spotted eating a whole hard boiled egg or wearing a red dyed dress walking down the street (red dye is rare).
I am not saying we will come to this stage but when someone from nowhere comes along and promise everyone everything,WATCH OUT!
Good luck to you all,only time will tell.
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Economic Reform act of Chairman Obama of the socialist States of America :
10 ounces of meat per month,half a yard of cotton per year per adult.
Hellilujah!
posted on January 14, 2009 03:50:31 PM new
1. English is my first but not my only language (not sure what that has to do with anything).
2. To be honest, I DO have trouble deciphering many of your posts, HwaHwa. I usually attribute it to too much sake (not on my part).
3. It's obscene that American taxpayers subsidize insurance companies and yet are not automatically entitled to dialysis. We pay next to the world's highest medical tab (Marshall Islands pay the most) and yet rank #37 (below Costa Rica and above Slovenia) in our health care system.
4. Don't carry an inflammatory sig line if you can't take the heat.
posted on January 14, 2009 04:07:54 PM new
well,I will carry my sig line as long as I want and as long as I see fit.
If it is inflammatory to you,then dont read it.
The choice is yours!
If you think I am going to remove them because of you, then you need to drink some sake yourself!
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Economic Reform act of Chairman Obama of the socialist States of America :
10 ounces of meat per month,half a yard of cotton per year per adult.
Hellilujah!
posted on January 14, 2009 04:12:31 PM new
It's obscene that American taxpayers subsidize insurance companies and yet are not automatically entitled to dialysis. We pay next to the world's highest medical tab (Marshall Islands pay the most) and yet rank #37 (below Costa Rica and above Slovenia) in our health care system.
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Where did you get the idea taxpayers subsidise insurance companies?
I would think taxpayers subsidise those who are not insured? or underinsured.
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Economic Reform act of Chairman Obama of the socialist States of America :
10 ounces of meat per month,half a yard of cotton per year per adult.
Hellilujah!
posted on January 14, 2009 07:29:42 PM new
HwaHwa, I am the last to defend Chairman Mao's actions. China was in the midst of a huge famine during his regime, which he hid from the rest of the world, even exporting precious food to keep up appearances. Millions died of starvation. Still, equating an impoverished, over-populated country in the midst of famine with the US under Obama's leadership is ludicrous.
posted on January 14, 2009 11:12:01 PM new
Hwahwa: I too have trouble understanding where you're going with some of your posts. So. . . when we admit that, why do you resort to name calling?
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"Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who ***dared to dissent*** from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, ***may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion."*** --Eisenhower
Ending such subsidies could provide savings to help finance broader health care reform.
While some of the money goes towards extra benefits for some, most of it goes towards increasing profits for insurance companies at the taxpayers’ expense.
posted on January 15, 2009 06:38:12 AM new
First off, pixiamom did not start the name calling - she merely asked if hwa was endorsing socialized medicine. She never told hwa to have sex with a hot dog. Helen - pixiamom, as a single mother who depends on eBay for income, would be the first to support affordable health care for all citizens of the US.
Just to set the record straight, hwa - pixia MAJORED in three foreign languages in college. She has no problem reading - believe me as a sister who has had to accept that she was the "smartest one" in the family since childhood. Diplomacy, however, is not her strong suit.
Many of us have wondered why hwahwa (an adamant Clinton supporter) has adopted that particular sig line. Her OP seems particularly ironic taken in the context of that.
Hwa, I don't even understand your post that begins: "Most of you know little or none about the Chinese Communist regime under Chairman Mao when he decided to take the country under some sort of economic reform.
The results were disastrous,folks were placed on ration,each person gets 10 ounces of meat per month and 1/2 yard of cotton per year.".... you use the present tense as if this is the way life is in China today. Is that true? Some of your sentences are not complete sentences at all. I understand that English is not your first language. I have been married to a Swiss citizen for over 25 years and speak several languages. I guess we need to all understand that there is a translation problem when reading what you write. Humor or irony does not translate well at all. You could be patient and understand that we don't "get it" and try to rephrase in another way. I don't understand why you think that Obama's plans are more "socialistic" or "Maoist" than Clintons but that's a dead horse at this point. They both promised everything and of course they won't deliver everything they promised. One has to hope that the agenda of this administration will be THE PEOPLE and not the almighty OIL-GOD and Wall Street.
Whatever ... have any sig line you like but don't blame us and get defensive if we draw some assumptions about you based on the way we read it.
posted on January 15, 2009 07:23:36 AM newI normally don't back hwahwa, but he didn't start the name calling. Pixi did.
Wrong again stoner. I copied all of pixia's words for you. Read them slowly, which part is calling names? In between pixia's first and second post, hwa called her a "pathetic fool."
First:
"So HwaHwa, are you endorsing socialized medicine for all or just for your friend?"
Then:
"1. English is my first but not my only language (not sure what that has to do with anything).
2. To be honest, I DO have trouble deciphering many of your posts, HwaHwa. I usually attribute it to too much sake (not on my part).
3. It's obscene that American taxpayers subsidize insurance companies and yet are not automatically entitled to dialysis. We pay next to the world's highest medical tab (Marshall Islands pay the most) and yet rank #37 (below Costa Rica and above Slovenia) in our health care system.
4. Don't carry an inflammatory sig line if you can't take the heat."
Then:
"AIG is an insurance company and got a $85 billion federal bailout in September."
Then:
"HwaHwa, I am the last to defend Chairman Mao's actions. China was in the midst of a huge famine during his regime, which he hid from the rest of the world, even exporting precious food to keep up appearances. Millions died of starvation. Still, equating an impoverished, over-populated country in the midst of famine with the US under Obama's leadership is ludicrous."
When I read pixia's first post, I also read it as being facetious.
Pixiamom posted, "So HwaHwa, are you endorsing socialized medicine for all or just for your friend?"
Unfortunately, Pixiamom's use of the term "socialized medicine" which is generally used to attack any attempt to provide "universal coverage", contributed to my misunderstanding of your sister's post. That together with the fact that I generally pay little attention to the poster to whom she was responding led to my failure to see the intended humor in her post.
posted on January 15, 2009 02:40:42 PM new
Of course the "subsidizing" of the banks and insurance industries is to cover losses from the gov lowering borrowing requirements. But everyone is "entitled" to own a home.
Interesting that a lot of the bailout money is being extended to cover the defaulting dirtbags, who, strangely enough, are defaulting again. LOL. I guess everyone is "entitled" to own a home 3 times over.
posted on January 15, 2009 07:15:03 PM new
Take your pick: socialized or nationalized industries are basically the same. No president has moved us closer to socialism than Bush who had to do it to save our economy from the ruin his non-regulation of industry created. Now that we've nationalized the backbone of our economy to save the ass of Bush's banking cronies, let's do the same to ensure adequate health care for US taxpayers. Point first to Bush as the Socialist among us..
posted on January 16, 2009 02:39:23 AM new
The "ruin" stems from the progression of the effects of easing of loan restrictions begun in the 70s. Since that time there were 2 attempts to tighten the requirements and prevent disaster. Once by McClain and once by Pres. Bush. Both defeated in Congressional Committee.
