posted on March 30, 2001 10:27:46 PM new
Now that Uaru has brought a competitive spirit into play in the game of Bush bashing, I'd like to submit this entry from the british press, the only avenue of truth easily available to us now that the US press is wimpering and laughing at the resident monster's feeble and contrived attempts at humor.
posted on March 30, 2001 10:39:40 PM new
From the linked article : "Rather than focussing on energy conservation and
pollution control, Mr Bush is calling for an all-out
bonanza of oil and gas exploration including drilling
in the Alaskan National Wildlife Arctic Refuge. "
I just want to say..I TOLD YOU SO!
Bush the great "Uniter" has done just that. United the rest of the world against the US.
posted on March 30, 2001 10:45:54 PM new
I knew the bad feeling I had when he was ahead in the vote was legit. And this is only a few months into his term. Can you imagine the mess its going to be when the 4 years is up?
posted on March 31, 2001 07:47:52 AM new
As I've stated before, I DO NOT support Bush. However, the dumping of the Kyoto agreement was a result of the 95-5 vote in the Senate ( A Senate equally divided ) to dump it. If An OVERWHELMING majority of the US Senate (95%) doesn't support it, why should Dubya? Maybe there is more to the fine print than we are shown. I don't think agreeing with 95% of the Senate is all that far off track.
posted on March 31, 2001 08:30:40 AM new
It is just seen as indicative of the US choosing to believe that they have no real concerns about the planet, as long as they can continue doing what they do, unhindered.
If they had some other idea of what they wanted to do to diminish greenhouse gases, that would be something. But to just dump the Kyoto agreement gives the world the message that they really don't give a toss. It is seen as the might of oil companies and large companies to continue extracting profit, at the expense of the rest of the world.
posted on March 31, 2001 09:51:16 AM newDUBYA - THE GREAT MORAL COMPASS
Shut up!
He never was and never will be!
To Bush Supporters: Here's your "GREAT MORAL COMPASS" in action! I'd rather have Clinton getting blow jobs in the White House than see our entire planet turn into a representation of HELL!
posted on March 31, 2001 10:18:46 AM new
I miss Clinton so much. I could care less who he did in the White House or the local motel. At least I felt safe and proud to be an American.
posted on March 31, 2001 10:57:05 AM new
Let's see: so far, our bushman has used it's machete to allienate: Iraq (one blast, without CONGRESS APPROVAl), Kuwait (where our own men got killed), Japan, with the sinking of the Fishing Boat among other things, Palestine, by giving Sharon CARTE BLANCHE, and Germany, who became very mistrustful of Bush and the US, as of last night's World News on PBS. He has also managed to reverse several important policies, regarding Pollution, Pro-Abortion, Drilling, Safety Rules on the job, etc.....
The little slob sure has been busy...and it is LESS than 3 months! Oy! Even his OWN people are starting to shake their head....
As always, please refer to your own links, as I am NOT a good link person Can't even find a song...
But I DO read, and I DO see the news...I am just plain dumb with links
posted on March 31, 2001 02:40:40 PM newBorillar....Thank you, thank you, thank you. I shall put our small differences from the past behind me...I now see clearly that you do have good sense, and good taste... Extending out my hand for a virtual hand-shake....
Who cares about who did it and where and with whom...
This freaking a.h. is far more terrifying than any womanizer...Who knows, maybe he is impotent, and is taking it our on the entire world...
posted on April 1, 2001 07:01:53 AM new
jlpiece - However, the dumping of the Kyoto agreement was a result of the 95-5 vote in the Senate ( A Senate equally divided ) to dump it. If An OVERWHELMING majority of the US Senate (95%) doesn't support it, why should Dubya? Maybe there is more to the fine print than we are shown. I don't think agreeing with 95% of the Senate is all that far off track
Ahhh, jlpiece, but do you think providing logic/facts here is going to make a difference? Nah....it wouldn't matter if everyone in the world didn't support it. If Bush happens to be one of them, then it's *all* his fault.
You are right, some people have a problem
with "logic and facts." In fact some "views"
just make my head swim... enough to throw me
off balance.
I get so dizzy trying to understand their
view that I question my own thinking...I
think, "it's too early to be drunk" and I
just had 6 cups of coffee. Why is this so
hard to understand.
posted on April 1, 2001 09:47:57 AM new
From the article:
"Again and again, the new president has argued his policy is based on "sound science" and common sense presumably the same common sense that once considered the burning of witches to be a good idea and thought the sun revolved around the earth."
Excellent analogies: they capture the essence of Bush's understanding of most of today's social and economic problems.
posted on April 1, 2001 10:28:23 AM new
Greenpeace has an article from Amsterdam March 30th, under Climate.
"Greenpeace expressed grave concern that US global warming policy now appears to be totally run by large US companies such Exxon, Texaco, Chevron and along with coal interests. Hare said "The shocking and unprecedented trashing of the most important global environmental agreement ever has confirmed our worst fears that the White House has been colonized by oil and coal companies."
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We look like fools whether Ex Gov Bush or Congress is responsible. The US became the global neighborhood bullies when we tried
forcing other countries to accept our transgenic food the past few years. Americans received very little information about what was happening here. The foreign papers had many articles...we had a dribbling from the Washington Post and NY Times. I had to subscribe to international mailing lists to gather information on frankenfoods because of allergic potential and the possiblity of transgenic gene spread to organically grown plants. More global pollution!
"Of The Corporation, By The Corporation, For
The Cor....." Labrat4gmos
That was supposed to be a link to www.greenpeace.org but it didn't work! Oops.
I used [img]. What do you use for links?
Thanks.
posted on April 1, 2001 11:00:52 AM new
I don't think there's a person alive in the US who doesn't want clean air, water, etc. It's just how to go about achieving that goal that seems to be the dividing factor, without the US economy feeling the severe results of this treaty.
May I ask anyone here how many of the 160-180 countries in our world have ratified this treaty? I only know of one other country that has done so.
Are you aware of why the Senate voted the way they did? Here's another sides view. Read # 25. Prohibit Funds for Kyoto Treaty - rollcall vote No.211 http://www.conservative.org/svd2000.htm
posted on April 1, 2001 02:35:36 PM new
The US has 4% of the world's population, and accounts for 25% of the greenhouse gas emissions. Yes, curbing pollution will have an economic effect, because currently the US is not having to bear the "whole" cost of its economy... the world is.
We now have "environmental impact statements" that are to be included in development plans, which looks at minimising adverse impacts. The USA just keeps on consuming without any regard for the global economy, and simply externalises the "environmental costs" of what it does.
It is completely immoral of current legislators to duck the issues. They are not the ones who will reap the spoil - it is our children and grandchildren. Their intransigence in even recognising there is a problem evokes the same determined refusal to recognise that cigarettes, PCBs or radiation cause cancer (until it was way too late for so many people).
When I was a child in school, 30 years ago, I remember the concern about air pollution, land pollution, over population, etc - and the moral lead which it felt like the US was trying to provide in this. Now, it just seems like "We're alright, let the rest of the world sort it out."
I went back to my home town this summer - places I went horseback riding as a child are long under concrete, the mountains were barely visible through the air pollution the entire time of my visit, traffic congestion was as bad (if not worse) than London, and you HAD to drive absolutely miles as shopping was not local. They even build housing developments without sidewalks! Give me London any day (except the grey, wet and cold ones).
Repeat the mantra, ad nauseum: "Growth is Good.... Growth is Good.... "
Can't even find a song...
