posted on May 30, 2001 08:54:59 PM new
Well...Did not take long...Daddy Bush's sweet little teen daughter caught drinking again; probably using someone else's ID, according to tonight's news. You gona have your hands full, daddy-O!
DISCLAIMER: I do not claim any first-hand knowledge
posted on May 30, 2001 09:15:26 PM new
Tell me when HE has a snoot full. Otherwise it is just mildly interesting gossip. Typical training for high office. She should go far.
posted on May 30, 2001 09:37:05 PM new
Or, if a shrink becomes involved she is living out the fantasies of her dad....
he would rather be out drinking beer and
making straight C's.
posted on May 30, 2001 09:48:08 PM new
Aw, jeeze. They're kids. They're not doing anything most of us didn't do when we were their age. I hate to think if every numbskull thing I ever did when I was 19 was plastered all over the news. And yes, I bought alcohol when I was underage. Got caught too. Not with the alcohol. With the phoney id. Luckily my dad never found out about it...course he would have it was printed in the newspapers and on the newscasts.
posted on May 30, 2001 10:38:38 PM new
They would be off limits if they didn't break the law.
Unfortunately --when one's parent is an important person, your behaviour will be under the microscope in a way it would not be for the average teenager. So irregardless if millions of other teenagers do exactly the same thing---it is your transgressions that will get the news time.
posted on May 31, 2001 02:02:39 AM new
News reports I've read say that the restaurant owner called 911 when the daughter tried to order a drink using someone else's ID. The whole thing sounds entirely ridiculous and that restaurant owner should be slapped upside the head. Who calls 911 when someone tries to use a phony ID? You just say - "I'm sorry, this is the wrong ID, I can't serve you," and then you don't serve them. This thing stinks.
posted on May 31, 2001 05:11:09 AM new"Who calls 911 when someone tries to use a phony ID?"
Anyone who feels that it's appropriate to do so.
There's a tight lid on so we can't know, but a call to an emergency police line may have been appropriate if there was any belligerence toward or threats made against the restaurant representative involved.
posted on May 31, 2001 06:58:09 AM new
Actual facts reported by Austin news this morning:
Chuys is a restaurant, not a bar.
The phone call was anonymous.
When the police arrived, the girls were NOT drinking.
Not that anyone in the national media is interested in the facts, gossip is so much more interesting. Especially when you can destroy a few reputations with it. Underage kids by the hundreds drink every weekend. Interesting that Bush's daughter is the one that got reported-perhaps falsely?
posted on May 31, 2001 08:40:29 AM new
The young woman can drink herself into oblivion, as far as I am concerned. However, when one's parents are in the (political) limelight, it would seem only respectful toward the PARENTS to not be seen in public, trying to do something that young people know is not yet allowed.
Yes, there are millions of kids who get blasted everyday...but that does not make it RIGHT. As far as all of us doing it when we were young, I beg to differ.
It is possible, and perhaps even likely, that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton's Daughter might have done many a thing...but she had enough class to not make public displays of herself...
For me, the issue is NOT the drinking...but the total lack of respect for parents, at ANY social level. Come to think of it, reagan's own daughter did not appear to be too fond of daddy either...
posted on May 31, 2001 08:54:53 AM new
I can't speak about the rest of the country but here in the suburbs of Atlanta, the only way to contact the police department is through 911.
The 911 operators do triage and eventual routing of the call based on what you are calling about.
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I think that children and spouses should be afforded the privacy that any other person is afforded with a few exceptions.
First, if the spouse or child somehow invokes their relationship with the public figure to receive special consideration.
Second, if the public figure becomes involved in "fixing" whatever faux pas the spouse or child has committed. And even then, the public scrutiny should be aimed at what the public figure is doing and not the original incident itself.
posted on May 31, 2001 08:59:43 AM new
This has nothing to do with what kind of lame-brained stunts any of us pulled in the underage pursuit of alcohol or related substances. There are better standards to apply than "oh, I did that, so it's OK". Unless you've managed not to learn anything since then.
How old do kids have to be before they're no longer "off limits"? 40? She's old enough to vote, old enough to enter into legally binding contracts, old enough to join the armed forces without parental consent. Aside from the drinking age, in what sense is she a "kid"? (Personally, I think if you're old enough to die for your country, you should be old enough to drink, but that's off-point).
A month after getting busted, and knowing the scrutiny she's under, she pulls this stunt. She's either an idiot or under the impression she's invincible. If the former, I can't really hold it against her. It appears to be genetic. If the latter, I suspect it won't last long.
posted on May 31, 2001 09:54:05 AM new
I'm no fan of GW Bush. Excuuuse me, if I think it's damn tough to be a kid that age and have every idiotic thing you do plastered all over the news for public gossip and speculation. What in the world does her "underage drinking" have to do with her father's foreign or domestic policies? It's a family matter. If y'all wanna gossip about it, go right ahead. I'm much more worried about her father's political agenda than her partying. But then y'all probably had a good snicker at Chelsea's expense when she was made fun of for being homely and gawky. After all, she was a "public figure" too.
There are better standards to apply than "oh, I did that, so it's OK". Unless you've managed not to learn anything since then.
Gaffan What I've "managed to learn" since I was a kid shouldn't concern you in the least. There's a nice little "ignore" feature here. No doubt you know how to utilize it.
posted on May 31, 2001 02:30:02 PM new
It's amazing that everyone is so quick to assume she was doing something wrong-what happened to 'until proven guilty'? It has not been established yet that she really did this, only that some anonymous caller said she did.
posted on May 31, 2001 02:58:52 PM new
I think this is a matter of propriety. If my daddy was president of the United States, I would probably not be getting plastered at the local bars. (Not that I blame her.) It's only natural for kids to try fake IDs and the like. I was doing far worse things at 19 and a 19-year old having a beer is no big deal. Kids will be kids.
Gaffan, correct me if I'm wrong (no doubt you will anyway) but it seems to me the kid is "acting out." She knows she's under scrutiny and is trying to get caught.
As for the gossip, oh yeah, it's juicy. Mmmm, 'can't wait for the tell-all book once Bush gets out of office.
posted on May 31, 2001 03:02:31 PM new
Did someone edit their post, I coulda sworn I saw 'taking after druggie/drunk daddy and something about Mrs. Bush hit someone?' or some such thing?
What was that about?
If you read the UNbiased biography of Bush, he quit drinking and any drugs at age 40, he's what? 56 now?
It was funny, when Clinton answered 'he never inhaled' and he most likely MEANT it to be that way, funny.
Its a hard thing to go thru withdrawl of alcohol/drugs, and he successfully did that, But we should never let him forget it, and we should all assume he still does.
I am not sure what his wife did, but then we should all assume again, what the kids are doing, its got to be genetic.
posted on May 31, 2001 05:01:26 PM new
I think Bush is an idiot. Maybe his daughter thinks so too and that's why she doesn't care. Regardless, I think it's a shame she is in the position she is and no way out. And it's even worse because the fact is, she's in the spotlight whether she wants to be or not.
posted on May 31, 2001 05:18:32 PM new
MrsSantaClaus
Sorry I missed your jab again.
Chelsea's daddy has class too of the quality
that unfortunately we will not be seeing for
four years and at that point, ANYTHING will
be an improvement over George W. Bush.
posted on May 31, 2001 06:17:05 PM new
Yep, discussing the daughter, but she's a Bush brat, and anything Bush is uncouth, disgusting, stupid, so its all the same.
Thats all I've heard on these boards.
Chelseas father had class, should be President, hey you do know, he is eligible to run again, if he wants, but I think it will be Hillary. Then we can have the perfect First Family back in the White House.
Then everyone will be happy and nice to each other.
posted on May 31, 2001 06:23:52 PM new
I hope Hillary does run. If not, I would vote for Bill again in a heartbeat. I don't care what he did under the desk. I care about what he did when he was writing on the desk.
posted on May 31, 2001 07:20:56 PM new
I know I'll get slammed for this, but, not being able to keep your zipper zipped does not indicate class to me. Nor does lying about it. Any class that Clinton may have had in my book flew out the window with that whole mess. If your wife can't trust you, than how can I? Bush may not be able to speak well, but, so far, I can trust what he says and i would trust him to work, professionaly, with my daughter.
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