eSeller004
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posted on September 15, 2001 05:07:37 PM new
People are trying to pay for their Carnaby auction wins with Carnaby dollars. I don't want funny money for payments! I want cold hard cash or an equivalent as payment! How do you turn that option OFF??? NO PayPal, NO BillPoint and NO Carnaby Dollars! Anyone know how to turn that option off??? I knew I should have never signed up for that Carnaby Cash Cow program! 
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toollady
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posted on September 15, 2001 06:30:27 PM new
YIKES!
What is the exchange rate for the cow cash? Just wondering because another site that shall remain nameless has funny money and it's like 100 funny dollars to 1 US Dollars.
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Mizteek
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posted on September 15, 2001 07:12:33 PM new
Have you directed this question to support on the Carnaby boards? Something doesn't sound right, here.
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carnaby
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posted on September 16, 2001 06:37:35 AM new
Dear eSeller004,
There has been a misunderstanding by some new members who have responded to one of our marketing campaigns regarding the use of Carnaby Dollars.
We are preparing a newsletter that will be distributed early in the week. In this special edition of our Tips & Trends newsletter we'll address the Carnaby Dollars issue as well as some of the other features that are unique to Carnaby.
In the meantime, we are disabling the option to 'transfer Carnaby Dollars' from the Cash Cow kiosk. Effective Monday we will be changing the body of the Bid confirmation email to clear any misunderstandings on the part of our bidders.
Thank you for making us aware of this issue.
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RussellJDS98926
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posted on September 17, 2001 09:29:34 AM new
US law requires an actual item or service or similar for a puchase made. Cash Cow sounds like a scam in a loop hole thing.
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tomwiii
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posted on September 18, 2001 06:59:29 PM new
Ya know something? The word scam is a pretty awful term to throw around without a wealth of proof to support it...
My experience with this web-site and the folks behind it has (so far) been 100% positive. I'm very proud to be a cheerleader for Carnaby...there are so few sites that I trust anymore, that when I find a true gem like this one, I want to SHOUT!!
My humble and kind suggestion is this: if you have doubts or fears or reservations, CONTACT the Carnaby Team -- I think you'll be surprised by the quality and caring response ya might receive from them!
That would be a constructive action as opposed to lobbing easy insults from behind the shield of the net.
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bidsbids
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posted on September 18, 2001 10:28:18 PM new
Yes the word scam is a tad harsh. Try legal scam instead. The 'Circle of Friends' Anyway-style pyramid is legal. Mention Amyway to most people and they want to change the subject and have nothing to do with it or you. That should be how people will react to Carnaby's 'Circle of Friends' scheme.
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Janandpals
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posted on September 19, 2001 03:02:21 PM new
"Scam"...."legal scam"
It gets more irrational all the time!
Theories with no facts upon which to base the claims.
Personal vendettas? Why? The motive is?.......I ask. Let's hear it please.
Jan
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stavecards
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posted on September 19, 2001 03:26:46 PM new
Jan,
I agree. Would someone please explain what they are referring to as a scam. I have seen nothing on the Carnaby site that looks like a scam. May be missing something, so please enlighten us.
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kenzy
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posted on September 28, 2001 06:33:46 AM new
US law requires an actual item or service or similar for a puchase made...
REALLY? Which law? Please cite the number of this "Federal Law".
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eSeller004
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posted on September 28, 2001 06:38:28 AM new
It seems like a nice idea and not a scam, but I don't want to get paid by Cash Cows.
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robnzak
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posted on September 28, 2001 07:07:32 AM new
Scam? I don't think so. I like to compare them to frequent flyer miles. The more you browse, list, bid, the more points you rack up for the sweepstakes, and those points are also converted to CY$. CY$1.00=$1.00. Those Carnaby dollars can be used to purchase Carnaby branded merchandise.
Also in the works will be allowing auctioneers to offer buyers an incentive, by paying the seller (those who chooses to offer) a percentage of their winning widgets with CY$, as in: winning bidder may pay 10% of their purchase with CY$.
I "earned" a buck forty yesterday just for doing what I normally would do anyway, so I kinda like the idea of getting a little bonus.
Rob
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goldenpony
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posted on September 28, 2001 07:20:54 AM new
I really like the site so far...with the exception of the cash cows. I was playing around to see what all they did and founf myself just looking a the listings that offered the most cows and clicked multiple browsers open just to rack up the points...I never even read the titles of the auctions so I don't see how those cows are going to help anybody...unless of course I'm the only cow rustler out there...lol 
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deichen
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posted on September 28, 2001 07:28:50 AM new
Well, I do not know anything about the cash cows, but I would like to ask Carnaby to stop sending me a daily reminder that my credit card has expired! I signed on there, but have not bought or listed anything. Apparently, my card has expired since then. When and if I do decide to use Carnaby, I can update my credit card then. I do not need daily reminders, spamming my mailbox, every day)
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carnaby
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posted on September 28, 2001 08:21:13 AM new
Dear Deichen,
Thank you for alerting us about this. We usually ask our members to direct these kinds of requests to our support boards so we can take immediate action.
Our software engineering team has been notifed about this and will be checking our programming to ensure these notices only go out once.
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bidsbids
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posted on September 28, 2001 09:28:00 AM new
I think the Cash Cow needs tweeking. For instance, Select Browse ... Select Antiques ... Select Art- Fine ... Scroll down a tad ... there are several "6 pointers" all in a row. Click on one and then back arrow and click on the next one. You now have the option of toggling between the first and second auctions or using the other 6 pointers. Only a few clicks to get your 80 points daily.
What good is that if a user can click between only 2 different auctions to quickly get 80 points? There should only be one set of points for viewing each auction. Of course, it's all academic anyway as the site only has 3,900 items and is spinning it's wheels with little activity of any kind.
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deichen
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posted on September 28, 2001 11:48:43 AM new
Thank you, Carnaby! I hope they stop sending them to me. I really am planning on looking at your site more closely, but am so busy right now, I do not want to break in another site!
No, I am not busy with sales! Just real life!
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ezinkjetstore
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posted on September 28, 2001 12:41:12 PM new
The extra points per auction are there because the sellers are choosing that as an extra option. Currently the option is free, but will be a Pay option in the future. It's a way to get people to look at your auction.
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RussellJDS98926
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posted on September 28, 2001 08:40:58 PM new
HA HAHA HA HAAAAAAA HA BUMMER!
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sciclone2000
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posted on September 29, 2001 07:20:50 AM new
I love the cash cow. I signed up and ended up winning a DVD player.
Tony.
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deichen
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posted on September 29, 2001 09:04:42 AM new
I still received another reminder this morning.
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Janandpals
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posted on October 1, 2001 02:23:32 AM new
Bidsbids
Which site have you been tweeking on in order to get multiple points on only two auctions? Me thinks you need to do more peeking and less tweeking. Or, at least, get the facts straight, just for once please!
You cannot score points twice on any auction. I know, because I tried. You will receive a very clear message stating "You have already scored points on this page".
I'm still wondering what your motive is for continually posting mis-statements about all auction sites, except one of course.
Please explain.
Jan
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bidsbids
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posted on October 1, 2001 08:16:51 AM new
It's very, very simple Janpals. First you click on one auction and score the 6 points then you click on another auction and score 6 points. Now back to the other auction and score another 6 points. If you hit the same auction twice in a row you will get a message that you have already scored points for that auction but that is the only way you will see that message.
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Janandpals
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posted on October 1, 2001 10:11:57 PM new
Interesting and thanks for the tip.
I did go back and use your alternate method of clicking. On the first return to the first auction, I did receive additional points, but, after that little glitch, no more points were awarded me. My next question would be "Why is that a problem for either a bidder or seller since the additional points are to either's advantage."? Personally, I feel the site was running a bit slow and had to catch up with my activities.
Then, there is the question that I have now asked you at least twice and you simply bypass with no response:
" posted on October 1, 2001 02:23:32 AM edit
---------------------------------------------"I'm still wondering what your motive is for continually posting mis-statements about all auction sites, except one of course."
I have yet to see one positive comment posted by you on this Board about any auction site and am wondering if others have also reached the conclusion that you best be ignored.
An eBay employee perhaps?
Jan
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bidsbids
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posted on October 1, 2001 11:03:05 PM new
Jan, I have posted at least 2 posts here praising the Carnageby chatrooms. They do rule them with an iron fist.
I believe there are several similarites in gegy and carnageby in some of their early wild promises. For instance, both promised multi-million dollar advertising campaigns which of course will never happen.
Carnageby has the ridiculous Cash Cow and a refer-a-friend program that is a legal pyramid scheme in the Amyway mold. Gimicksville.com
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Janandpals
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posted on October 3, 2001 01:03:34 AM new
I can certainly agree with you there. It is quite refreshing isn't it?
No advertising as yet? Are you sure about that? Where are you looking for it to appear or where would you like it to appear?
Can you explain to me how the cash cow program works and can you choose not to use it if you don't care for it?
Also, regarding the refer a friend (Amwaylike) program. What do you or they get when someone you refer signs up?
Jan
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ezinkjetstore
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posted on October 3, 2001 05:34:30 AM new
bids,
I wouldn't say that there is no advertising happening at Carnaby. If you want to verify whether or not they are currently running any advertising campaigns, then write to customer service. Just because you don't see TV ads and popups on AW doesn't meant that they aren't doing some sort of marketing campaign.
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eSeller004
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posted on October 3, 2001 06:32:27 AM new
Whatever the advertising they're doing, if there is any, has had little effectiveness. It seems like a waste of time to list on Carnaby until things pick up. Bidding is almost as bad as Bidville over there. Almost, but not quite! I'd much rather list my collectibles and miscellaneous items on Half.com or BargainandHaggle where you have a much larger bidding population and better chance of making a sale AND free listings.
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giftsbyangie
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posted on October 4, 2001 08:32:48 PM new
If I am not mistaken, you don't have to even use the cash cow if you don't want to. Either don't sign up for it, or don't log on it at all. I don't see how it is a scam at all. What it is is an incentive program. Sellers can choose to give those points on the page for a small fee (when fees start of coarse) These points are earned by listing, buying and looking. They give you entrys to give aways for dvd players and other stuff. To be classified as a "scam" I believe nothing would be offered in return. Lots of people have won dvd players, cash, and digital cameras for just doing what they normaly do. So, whats the problem. If you don't like them, don't click, don't log on to the cow..no biggie. 
Yes, they will be able to be transfered in the future to be used to buy mechendise, but if a seller doesnt want to accept them, no way will they have to.
Where advertising is concerned, we have been doing a lot of testing with the site, making sure everything runs smoothly. It seems smart to have beta testers finish testing before spending lots of money on advertising, doesnt it? Canraby is just getting on its feet, and i am sure the advertising will come.
Anyways, those are just my opinions. Take care!
Angie
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bidsbids
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posted on October 4, 2001 10:43:08 PM new
I'd call it wishful thinking.
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