timberlake
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posted on June 24, 2001 07:39:35 AM new
I just sold something on Ebay and dont know which ways is best to collect funds - I am nervous about this buyer. Paypal seems to leave it open to bad buyers to reverse charges -- so what is the safest way for me to set funds that does not allow for this guy to pull a reverse charge? Maybe I am I am jumping the gun but after reading all these stories I worry about buyers screwing me.
Please Help!
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yisgood
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posted on June 24, 2001 08:03:02 AM new
You can find a review of payment services on my site. AW won't let me post the direct URL but you can find it on the home page. C2it will not reverse charges to the seller unless the seller engages in fraud. You can not be charged back if the buyer uses a fraudulent credit card .
http://www.ygoodman.com
[email protected]
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roofguy
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posted on June 24, 2001 09:13:53 AM new
PayPal does not "leave it open to bad buyers to reverse charges" for sellers who follow the rules.
All recent chargeback complaints are from sellers who chose to ignore the rules.
They didn't do it by accident, they chose that course. The most common two:
-declining to obtain delivery confirmation
(feeling it is not worth it)
-deciding that buyer's story regarding shipment to a different address was convincing
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timberlake
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posted on June 24, 2001 01:12:58 PM new
ohhh roofguy,
Not you again.
This was a question to others not meant to be another Paypal bashing round - but seems like you insist.
Yes Paypal does deside to just "Freeze" peoples money AT WILL.
And Paypal is NOT a bank so does not feel they need to cumminicate with the people whose money they hold. Your Money is not Safe with Paypal period!
But that is not what I am here for I am asking a question to "others" not here to bash Paypal all over again - been there done that.
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roofguy
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posted on June 24, 2001 01:32:01 PM new
Yes Paypal does deside to just "Freeze" peoples money AT WILL.
There are two classes of behavior which result in restrictions on a seller's account:
-activity indicating likely fraud
-activity in clear violation to the terms of use
It's hard to imagine what advice one might offer to a someone looking for an online payment service which wasn't on the watch for such behavior.
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yisgood
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posted on June 24, 2001 01:39:37 PM new
>>Yes Paypal does deside to just "Freeze" peoples money AT WILL. <<
Congratulations, roofguy. It's about time you finally got it.
>>There are two classes of behavior which result in restrictions on a seller's account:
-activity indicating likely fraud
-activity in clear violation to the terms of use <<
You forgot to mention, "activity indicating *possible* fraud" and "Paypal clerical error"
>>It's hard to imagine what advice one might offer to a someone looking for an online payment service which wasn't on the watch for such behavior.<<
No one wants a service that doesnt watch for such behavior. All they want is a service that after freezing an account because it thinks it has found such behavior also provides real customer service - not a bunch of trainees who are indifferent or rude or explain that they have no authority to fix it and the guy that does can't be reached by phone and might get around to fixing it in a couple of months if you fax a whole bunch of personal info about a dozen times. In short, any service but Paypal and Paydirect.
http://www.ygoodman.com
[email protected]
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gs4
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posted on June 24, 2001 02:39:02 PM new
Go with bidpay or postal money order, You are pretty safe with that.
Then wait for about two weeks before shipping if you have a concern about this bidder.
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uaru
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posted on June 24, 2001 04:08:16 PM new
Go with bidpay or postal money order
Agreed. If you want to be liable free and accept credit card payments you have to have a money order buffer between you and the buyer. Personally I'm not going to find those terms as a buyer attractive, but if you want zero liabilities go that route.
zero seller liabilities = zero buyer protection
Unfortunately a lot of buyers know that.
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pez1960
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posted on June 25, 2001 12:01:11 AM new
I accept alot of types of payment options- money orders, checks, PayPal and Billpoint.
I like the convenience of the 'instant' cash with PayPal, and the 'almost instant cash' with Billpoint. But- if dealing with credit cards and all the rules that go with them make you nervous, please go with a check (wait for it to clear) or even better a money order.
Make sure any method you choose, to please at the very least use delivery confirmation (online tracking) to cover yourself and insurance (that can save you too)
*most buyers also know using a money order is considered safe= they have protection filing postal fraud for non-delivery.
Good luck!
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piggypoosmom
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posted on June 25, 2001 03:28:03 PM new
Run as fast as you can and as far as you can from Paypal. They will take your money in a heartbeat on nothing more than the word of a crook who just has to say they didn't get their package, and AT BEST, you can get it back THIRTY DAYS later. Does that sound like a good plan to you?
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timberlake
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posted on June 26, 2001 05:48:43 PM new
Paypal is the WORST!
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joice
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posted on June 26, 2001 06:03:20 PM new
timberlake,
Your last post makes it pretty clear as to the reason why you started this thread and as it is disruptive to the forum, I will lock it now.
Joice
[email protected]
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