katmommy
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posted on March 15, 2002 04:53:27 AM new
I have several auctions going on at Yahoo. Paypal's logo keeps showing up daily after I delete them. I dont have the automatic logo insert set for "ON"..actually I never added Yahoo to the "add auction acct" option on Paypal so how the heck is the logo getting onto my auctions?
MEOW
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paypaldamon
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posted on March 15, 2002 01:28:06 PM new
Hi katmommy,
Can you please check your account PROFILE/Selling Preferences to make sure it is off?
If it is, and you are still getting logos, it is a matter that I need to refer to tech support.
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dealerjim
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posted on March 15, 2002 03:17:22 PM new
Damon,
Maybe you didn't understand her the first time. I have copied her last post to you. Maybe this time you can read and understand it.
"""I dont have the automatic logo insert set for "ON"..actually I never added Yahoo to the "add auction acct" option on Paypal so how the heck is the logo getting onto my auctions?"""
In lamens terms for Damon: She does NOT have her account set up for automatic logo insertion. She has already told you this.
Now maybe you can try to come up with a semi-intelligent response instead of asking her to check her account profile which she has obviously already done.
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paypaldamon
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posted on March 15, 2002 03:38:50 PM new
Hi,
I still need the user to double-check, just in the event that they made a change to the account. If they did not, and the switch is not on from they can view, I need to refer the matter to technical support.
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katmommy
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posted on March 15, 2002 05:09:01 PM new
damon:
As I said..Yahoo was never added to my auction accts on Paypal. And as I said I had Ebay listed and when I checked that..it was OFF. I hadnt listed auctions with Yahoo in awhile and triple checked my seller preferances after the logo appeared the first time. So please contact tech support and stop this insertion. I do not take CC's through Paypal and it is being advertised as such AND it is not my doing. Thanks to Paypal..I cant delete that logo from auctions that have bids on them. I better not get CC payments due to this. By the way..Thanks dealerjim for your post..it brought a smile to my face!
MEOW
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Sheila12
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posted on March 15, 2002 06:11:53 PM new
DealerJim ... you crack me up!!! LOL
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dealerjim
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posted on March 16, 2002 12:33:10 AM new
I just hate those canned responses from PrayPals robots. LOL!!
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katmommy
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posted on March 16, 2002 03:55:56 AM new
I deleted the logos again yesterday and guess what? They are back again this morning. Grrrrrrr
MEOW
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katmommy
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posted on March 18, 2002 04:39:47 AM new
Well..I finally got an email back from paypal and they instructed me how to manually remove the logos which I've already been doing on a daily basis and the next day, the logos appear again. They did not mention how and why this is happening nor what they are going to do about it.
MEOW
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uaru
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posted on March 18, 2002 10:06:48 AM new
I've already been doing on a daily basis and the next day, the logos appear again.
If you didn't instruct PayPal to enter those logos and supply them with your Yahoo password what are your theories on how PayPal is guessing your Yahoo password? 
woof, woof
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katmommy
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posted on March 18, 2002 11:28:22 AM new
As I said..I do not have Yahoo registered in Paypal's automatic logo insertion feature. I might have had it listed a LONG time ago but it isnt there now so there is no way for me to turn it off. I dont have a theory and I didnt say anything about Paypal guessing my password...all I know is it shouldnt be there and they have no instructions by me to insert them. Instead of being so SMUG..you could have asked if it was possible that at one point I did have auto insertion turned ON and perhaps Paypal has a glitch in the system.
MEOW
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ltlcrafty1
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posted on March 18, 2002 11:36:02 AM new
uaru;
Your theory is that katmommy gave her yahoo auctions password to someone at paypal, authorized them to insert their logo in her auctions that she never registered with them, and is lying about it?
This problem is obviously a little technologically over your head, especially if you believe that giving someone your password and authorization is the ONLY WAY this kind of thing can happen.
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uaru
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posted on March 18, 2002 11:48:37 AM new
This problem is obviously a little technologically over your head, especially if you believe that giving someone your password and authorization is the ONLY WAY this kind of thing can happen.
Yes, I suppose it is over my head. Why don't you tell me your theories on how PayPal is able to add the logos to the auctions without the password? You have my full attention.
I'm so technologially challenged I'd have done something silly like change my Yahoo password rather than remove the logos day after day after day.
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ltlcrafty1
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posted on March 18, 2002 12:16:11 PM new
uaru:
Re Your Comment: "I'm so technologially challenged I'd have done something silly like change my Yahoo password rather than remove the logos day after day after day." Yes, I'm sure you are.
YOU'RE AN ASS!! You're still assuming it has something to do with her giving her password to someone!
I am not a programmer, and I do not propose to know what programming error is causing it, other than it's PayPal's issue, and they obviously don't think it's much of a problem, or they'd fix it!
Damon has a 'Policy & Procedure' to follow before he can refer it to Technical Support, which means it has happened before - they're just not in a huge rush to remove free advertising! Regardless of what kind of problems it's causing the user.
If nothing else, I would assume that by now you've caught on to the fact that the one thing paypal could care less about, is it's customers. (I guess that would be assuming too much, for you).
But of course, you'd rather blame it on the customer... Gee, sounds just like Damon!
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uaru
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posted on March 18, 2002 12:31:33 PM new
YOU'RE AN ASS!! You're still assuming it has something to do with her giving her password to someone!
Whoa, don't lose your cool there guy.
How do you think PayPal gets logos on to auctions, how to you think PayPal is able to send EOAs?
We're talking basics here, there isn't any magic. There isn't any grassy knoll, and there isn't any Bermuda Triangle envolved in this. It's a simple case of being able to access someone's listings. The password is required.
You're in the habit of talking to Damon. I'm not Damon, I'm free to make you look as silly as I like, I'm not a company rep, diplomacy be damned. Though I don't need much help... you seem to be doing that nicely by yourself.
FLASH!!! ltlcrafty1, announces PayPal is able to enter logos on your auctions without knowing the user's password!
The horror, the horror!!!
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ltlcrafty1
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posted on March 18, 2002 01:33:39 PM new
YOU make ME look silly? LOL! I think not, but you're making yourself look like a bigger ass every time you post!
You better watch it, the next time someone wants you to 'Haul Ass', it'll take you two trips! (But I'm sure you've heard that one before).
You need to read what katmommy posted. She did not add yahoo to her paypal account, and the feature was not 'on' w/e-bay. It is quite obviously a programming issue. Let me guess, you think there is no such thing as a programming error? Or a 'bug in the program'? You believe that anyone that claims to have a situation where a programming error was to blame is a conspiracy theorist?... But I'M the one that looks silly?
You are 'out there'!
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uaru
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posted on March 18, 2002 01:46:33 PM new
You need to read what katmommy posted. She did not add yahoo to her paypal account
I've read the posts. Katmommy first stated:
I never added Yahoo to the "add auction acct" option on Paypal so how the heck is the logo getting onto my auctions?
And later:
I might have had it listed a LONG time ago but it isnt there now so there is no way for me to turn it off.
I'm not questioning that she isn't able to turn it off, that's very possible. I am stating that PayPal had to have had her password to enter those logos, without that password it is impossible.
Katmommy could simply change her Yahoo password and PayPal would be unable to submit those logos.
It isn't a question of programming, it's a question of getting access... and you can't get access to add logos without the password. Most understand this, the fact you don't doesn't surprise me.
[ edited by uaru on Mar 18, 2002 01:52 PM ]
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katmommy
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posted on March 18, 2002 02:41:56 PM new
I have many passwords and they have remained the same for years..I wanted the issue fixed and find out why it was happening. What I am trying to say is I dont WANT to change my password. By the way..the problem WAS fixed. I had in fact added YAHOO! to paypal about 2 years ago but it was deleted over a year ago. I completely forgot I added it in my original post. There was nothing I could do on my end to stop the insertions. SO...it turned out to be a glitch. As for you URAU...You obviously like to talk a good talk and rock the boat but you are rude, cocky and your posts are most unwelcome.
MEOW
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uaru
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posted on March 18, 2002 03:00:36 PM new
You obviously like to talk a good talk and rock the boat but you are rude, cocky and your posts are most unwelcome.
You would have preferred I left the thread indicating that PayPal can insert logos without ever having been given the auction account's password as you first indicated?
Message threads don't work that way.
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ltlcrafty1
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posted on March 18, 2002 03:22:00 PM new
urau;
No, we would just prefer you leave the thread.
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katmommy
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posted on March 18, 2002 03:43:01 PM new
If you wanted to indicate anything useful..it would have been welcomed. And who are YOU to tell me how message threads work?? Are you the creator of all internet threads and discussions? PLEASE get off your high horse and stop talking down to people. I have news for you...you are no better a human being then I am.
MEOW
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katmommy
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posted on March 18, 2002 03:48:42 PM new
ltlcrafty..
Just wanted to thank you for your support..our friend here seems to enjoy making waves and thinks he is holier then thou. You know what they say..Misery LOVES company and he/it isnt worth it. People like that feed off off frenzy like a leach and he's probably got a pup tent going on in his pants just from this thread LOL.
So..ltlcrafy..I look forward to encountering you again in another thread : )
MEOW
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ltlcrafty1
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posted on March 18, 2002 04:09:48 PM new
Ah Yes, but the size of uaru's pup tent will in no way be large enough to contain the size of the HUGE ASS he's making of himself today. LOL! And gl keeping the logo's out of your auctions!
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uaru
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posted on March 18, 2002 04:10:17 PM new
If you wanted to indicate anything useful..it would have been welcomed.
Next time I'll agree with ltlcrafty1 that PayPal doesn't have to have a password to add the logos to your auctions and be more supportive.
[ edited by uaru on Mar 18, 2002 04:12 PM ]
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andrew123s
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posted on March 18, 2002 07:25:13 PM new
ltlcrafty1:
While I totally agree that PayPal putting in logos is wrong without the user's permission, and PayPal shouldn't have put them in there if they were instructed not to, PayPal had to somehow get the password to the Yahoo account to put them in. To Yahoo, PayPal is just like any other user. PayPal needs to know the password to get into a user's account to add to a listing's description. Now PayPal has an automated way of doing this but this doesn't change the fact that just like any other user, to access a Yahoo or any other account, you need the password just like a regular user would. The same holds true for E-Bay, etc. To say that a PayPal programming error would be like saying my computer had a programming error, and because of that error I could get into anyone's e-mailbox.
There probably was, based on these posts, a PayPal programming error or something else that caused PayPal to put in logos when it was instructed over a year not to. But if the user never gave PayPal the Yahoo information in the first place, it couldn't have happened.
Now I'm not saying the user should not have given PayPal the Yahoo information in the first place. Users should be able to give PayPal their auction account information and be able to trust them with it (e.g. only put in logos when instructed to). PayPal was probably at fault here. I don't usually agree with PayPal's practices regarding accounts/chargebacks/etc. However, I can see where Uaru is coming from here about how PayPal couldn't access the Yahoo account without the password.
[ edited by andrew123s on Mar 18, 2002 07:27 PM ]
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ltlcrafty1
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posted on March 18, 2002 10:49:43 PM new
andrew123s,
My point is that, I believe what katmommy has said is that her yahoo auctions are not currently even listed on her paypal account. They have no business adding their logos to her auctions, when she deleted them from her paypal account. Password or not, once she deletes them, the entire record should not exist in paypals database. Once she deleted yahoo from paypal, she has taken away her authorization for paypal to access those auctions.
uaru may have a point, but it's on top of his head. There is no reason for his condescending attitude. He's just being an ass.
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