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 deichen
 
posted on February 13, 2007 08:48:31 AM new
I went in to Yahoo to resubmit some auctions and the choices in the drop down were 0 or resubmit. What happened to 5? Is this happening to anyone else?
Thank you.
 
 myfavorites4u
 
posted on February 13, 2007 10:13:20 AM new
I haven't actually listed through Yahoo yet because it seems so slow to have to do it manually and I can't find a service that supports them.

Do you have to actually relist each item one at a time as well?

 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on February 13, 2007 10:45:40 AM new
I noticed that they dropped it to one auto-relist as well.

Funny thing though. I haven't had any listings actually close for about a week (except sold items). Too bad Yahoo doesn't have a way to get ahold of someone live, so we can find out why.

My guess is there little expirement of using us to link off to other items isn't working as well as they hoped.

As far a relisting manually, it's not like ebay where it takes forever. Yahoo it's a simple two clicks (very fast clicks) and your done.


 
 myfavorites4u
 
posted on February 13, 2007 11:48:11 AM new
Is that two clicks per item?

With hundreds or thousands of items that could be a big problem.

I am so spoiled to my listing service where I can relist 5000 items with two clicks and be done with it that I dread going back to manually doing everything.

But, on the other hand, I can't afford to keep those 5000 items on Ebay so I have to get started soon!

 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on February 13, 2007 01:27:52 PM new
Truthfully, 5000 may be a bit of work listing them for the first time. But relists wouldn't be so bad. Personally I would take a handful of them, post them and see. Then relist 20-30 per day if needed. Then at the same time, if you happen to sell it on eBay, cancelling the auction is easy.

 
 myfavorites4u
 
posted on February 13, 2007 01:37:44 PM new
Thank you.

Way back when Yahoo was new (and Ebay was too) I don't think you could cancel a Yahoo listing early. (at least I never figured out how).

Back before they started messing with search I did pretty good over there. Once they started the bid for placement practice my sales died and I quit listing there.

Back then, almost all listing services offered Yahoo support.

I have to move my records, postcards and craft books somewhere and thought Yahoo would be better than some of the other alternatives.

It looks like EBAY IS moving towards a "new only" sales platform and only interested in higher priced items as well. It is definitely time for me to move on. It's been a fun 10 years but the last one has been pretty dismal.
[ edited by myfavorites4u on Feb 13, 2007 01:44 PM ]
 
 deichen
 
posted on February 13, 2007 01:54:55 PM new
Well, darn I wonder if they are going to go to the 1 relist. I finally decided to give them another chance after several years away from them and now this. I also have many items such as patterns, etc. and I think relisting is a pain. I only sell a few things a month, but anything I sold there was something I would not have to list on ebay, so I was happy. I sold about $500.00 worth of stuff last year on Yahoo, it would have been more but they have a ton of bidders who bid to have fun and never pay! Once you are on your auction home page, 1 click, then you have to go to unsold, 2 clicks, then resumbit, 3 clicks, then go to the bottom of that page, submit 4 clicks and view the next page and submit 5 clicks. So, I am not sure how you are doing it Stonecold (do you have a better way)? In the over all scheme of things, that doesn't sound like much but I have about 800 items so I find it tiresome. Now, if this isn't a glitch, I don't know if it will be worth listing on Yahoo. I hate their search, if they would fix that and make relisting a one step process and charge a FVF, I think it would be better. JMO
 
 vanman
 
posted on February 13, 2007 03:30:16 PM new
5 times auto relist is still working for me. maybe you are talking about yahoo selling manager that has 2 relists only?

 
 deichen
 
posted on February 13, 2007 04:21:33 PM new
Wow, mine is back to 5 now as well, I am very glad about that!
 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on February 13, 2007 09:33:06 PM new
Must have been a 3 day glitch. The 5 auto-relist option is back.

deichen, the relist is only a two step option. The first is the main listing page, where you input everything. The second is the confirmation page where you double check it to make sure it looks ok. That's it.

On ebay, you have at least 5 pages, unless you don't change a thing. Then it's three. If you make any changes, you have pages upon pages to go through where as Yahoo, all the changes are on one page.


Another trick I use for Yahoo is right click on the relist link. Then open a new window. Then go down the row and do it to the items I want to relist. That makes all of those just two clicks each. If I want to change the price, it's on that page. No extra clicks. You can relist an auction in a matter of 30 seconds (I have dial up, Faster with DSL or Cable). With 5000 items, you could set it up to do 100 auctions a day for 50 days. 10 days times 5 auto-relists.

I don't have as much on as you do, I generally have around 200-250 so most of the time I am doing about 5 a day. Less on the days where I have sold something out of those groups. I just suggest that you list where you are confortable and managable. Personally, I wouldn't list 5000 items, but maybe 1000 where you only have to take care of about 20 a day, which would require about 15 minutes at the most. Of course sales will take a little more time, but that is where you want to take a little more time.

Good luck no matter which way you decide.
SC
 
 myfavorites4u
 
posted on February 13, 2007 10:35:40 PM new
Thank you again for all the information.

I will take your advice and start with maybe 10 a day and build from there to see how it goes.

It's a shame no one has a listing program for Yahoo. I can list all 5800 of my items on Ebay with just one click (now that they are made up and in my closed file).

It would be great to be able to do the same thing on Yahoo.

 
 deichen
 
posted on February 14, 2007 05:20:09 AM new
Thank you SC, I will try to resubmit the way you described.

Myfavorites4u:
Good luck on your sales on Yahoo, you can't beat free and if you sell it on Yahoo, you won't have to list it on ebay JMO!
 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on February 14, 2007 08:17:31 PM new
if you sell it on Yahoo, you won't have to list it on ebay JMO


There is a saying, "don't give up your day job" that applies to that statement. Yes, will have sales on Yahoo. But make no mistake, eBay is king. And by a long margin. You would be best off using Yahoo as an additional avenue for your listings.

I happen to have every item I have listed on Yahoo, but then again my volume isn't what your is. When I list at eBay, it keep the listing active on Yahoo as well. Then if it sells at eBay, I simply cancel the auction on Yahoo.

However if you sell that same item on Yahoo while it's listed on eBay, you are better off changing the item at eBay instead of cancelling. No sense in giving eBay your listing fees without a fight.
 
 deichen
 
posted on February 15, 2007 06:17:52 AM new
That is true, but it does feel good when you make a sale on Yahoo! I think the only site that my have an impact on ebay is google auctions, if they ever start it up. I will be there in a heartbeat. I am so fed up with ebay and the constant rising fees. I have only been listing there on the reduced days for about 6 months and lately that hasn't even been that great, so I didn't list at all yesterday. I know that didn't matter to them, but to me, it did.

I never thought of changing the item, while it was listed.

When is google going to debut the auction site? Anxiously awaiting!

 
 myfavorites4u
 
posted on February 15, 2007 09:43:53 AM new
I was looking for a place to stash all my listings and hopefully start pointing my Ebay customers in the new direction.

I have tried several of the alternative sites but then decided to just give Yahoo another try.

I'll list things on Ebay and then move them to Yahoo. I'll also rotate some Yaoo listings back to Ebay and will probably duplicate them on both sites during specials or times when sales are higher on Ebay.

It's all a giant experiment before hauling it all to the local live auction house and quitting for good. I'm just hoping something will work that will let me keep plugging along a while longer.

 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on February 15, 2007 09:18:48 PM new
I was looking for a place to stash all my listings and hopefully start pointing my Ebay customers in the new direction.


Now your getting it. I have all my items listed on Yahoo, and actually Epier as well. Then I will take a handful each week (before the recent price hikes) and list them on Ebay. Keeping them listed at the other two. Then deal with the sales as they happen. Be careful to not judge your sales by this time of year though. It's always slow this time of year on all sites. But the advantage with Yahoo and Epier, it don't matter. It don't cost you a thing except a little time.

The present surprise will be during the Christmas season, you will realize many sales that you didn't think would ever happen. Again, not to Ebay standards, but as the saying goes, every penny helps.


 
 deichen
 
posted on February 16, 2007 06:54:08 AM new
Wow, epier is still around? How do you do on it in comparison with Yahoo?

I have recently started a store on ecrater and surprisingly, have had 5 sales this month! I just started last month.

This month: I have sold 5 items on ecrater, 1 on yahoo and none on bidville, I have not listed on ebay.

 
 myfavorites4u
 
posted on February 16, 2007 08:08:36 AM new
I didn't know Epier was still around either.

I had considered ecrater and might still put a few items over there once I get Yahoo up and running smoothly.

I thought a slow time would be the perfect time to get some things moved over. I'm patient (with a 3% sell through in my Ebay store since July, I have learned not to expect much).

It's the fees that's killing me. I have everything on shelves in my storage unit once listed so it is easy to find once sold and out of my way until then

Thank you stonecold for all the great suggestions.

 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on February 16, 2007 09:29:57 AM new
Wow,

I was about to say, is Bidville still around? Since all of those sports cards geeks ended up there, I left there a long time ago. Yes I still use epier and generally sell about 2-3 items per month their. I only use them as they have no listing fees and infinite auto-relists. Basically it's a parking lot for my items. I do however use their image hosting for my ebay auctions. It's free to host so I feel obligated to at least keep auctions on the site as well. 90% of what I list there, I cancel when it sells at either ebay or Yahoo. One thing they do better than Yahoo or ebay is your listings will show up in most search engines. They charge only FVF's for basic listings so they get paid only when you sell something.

I haven't heard of ecrater. What do you think about the site?


 
 myfavorites4u
 
posted on February 16, 2007 11:01:26 AM new
ecrater is easy to list on but they allow absolutely no html so the listings all look alike.

That wouldn't be so bad, but they chose a light tan color that I find hard to read and not very distinctive.

They also have a square gallery pix so my images didn't look very good unless I corrected them before listing there.

But, they do seem to be growing in acceptance so I am going to put some items up just to keep my ID showing up over there. Maybe I'll just list my movie memorabilia there.

They prefer that you have a separate store for each type item.

Some people were complaining about the fact they had to manually adjust inventory totals if something sold. I haven't sold anything there so I don't know if that is the case for one-of-a-kind items as well.

[ edited by myfavorites4u on Feb 16, 2007 11:03 AM ]
 
 deichen
 
posted on February 16, 2007 11:58:37 AM new
Hi,
I haven't had to adjust my totals on ecrater. When something sells, I put a sold sign in the pix for the default picture so that the buyer will still be able to pull up their purchase. I agree about the site being plain, but actually I kindof like it all being the same. I also understand that probably keeps the space smaller. It is an alternative and so far, I am pleased.

 
 myfavorites4u
 
posted on February 16, 2007 01:13:54 PM new
deichen...you said you put a sold sign in your pix.

Does that mean that if you didn't go in and do that someone could purchase it again?

Or does it show sold and you just do that so they can see the pix?



 
 deichen
 
posted on February 16, 2007 03:16:15 PM new
Yes, it could sell again, for some reason the item says in the system, if you choose the hide button, it totally hides and then the buyer can't see it either. It is a flaw in the system, but most people just put a sold as the default picture and that keeps someone from buying (hopefully).

 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on February 16, 2007 09:25:39 PM new
What kind of fees do they have?

 
 deichen
 
posted on February 17, 2007 06:44:39 AM new
SC,
It is completely free (at least for now) and they are integrated with google checkout (I love google) and it is free thru the end of 2007!

 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on February 17, 2007 09:59:04 AM new
Thanks. I will have to check them out.


 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on February 17, 2007 09:57:46 PM new
Ok,

One more question. I set up my account and placed a few items on. How do I set it up for combined shipping? Much of what I well can be combined for very little additional shipping costs and I like to pass along the savings to my customers.

SC
 
 deichen
 
posted on February 18, 2007 07:36:47 AM new
SC,
I am not sure. I think you have to put something in your terms that says you will send them a combined invoice, that is another flaw (as I see it) in the system. You might also post to the community board, they seem helpful. I do not usually have combined shipping requests but I do offer it. I sold something else yesterday, and am planning on continuing to load more. Good Luck with your store. Did you sign up for google checkout?

 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on February 18, 2007 08:15:13 PM new
I did sign up for Google Checkout. I sent myself an invoice to try it out. I think this is going to kick butt over PayPal. It was far easier to use too.

Do you know if we are covered for international payments too? I couldn't find anything to confirm that.

SC
 
 deichen
 
posted on February 19, 2007 06:35:00 AM new
I am not sure about the coverage but I am so excited about this payment plan (anything but paypal). Of course, ebay won't allow google check-out - hum...I wonder why???

I did read somewhere on the community boards at ecrater that they seemed to be more fair when a buyer files a complaint and did not right off assume the seller was in the wrong. Something like that anyway.

 
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