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 krs
 
posted on June 30, 2002 05:14:43 AM new
"...with bloated personage sitting next to them"

Or on top of them. That's it, you pay for space. I buy a seat and think I have a legitimate claim to the space it encompasses while I'm using it. My claim doesn't extend beyond that space, but if some entity, be it a person whose size cause them to extend beyond their space into mine, or a crawling little cutey whose parents think that I will enjoy sharing my space with their creature, then I have a legitimate complaint.

twinsoft, the camera adds ten pounds, right? Wink, wink. Or was it twenty? Har!

 
 gravid
 
posted on June 30, 2002 05:58:37 AM new
In my case it is not a big blob of fat hanging over into the next seat. I am able to fit my rear end in the seat and my belly hangs out front. But I am so wide across the shoulders my entire arm and shoulder are in the space on each side. I don't like intruding on someone either. Or if I am in the aile seat I get rammed with the cart every time they go through. Even when I only weighed 220 I still am the same size across the shoulders. Have been since Jr. High. I have worn a 22/36 shirt since I was in school. Now they can't be tapered to the waist anymore - that's all.

 
 krs
 
posted on June 30, 2002 06:48:31 AM new
You'd be OK Lots more interesting than a slobbering googling brat too.

 
 gravid
 
posted on June 30, 2002 10:08:56 AM new
Another advantage - when I get near a screaming brat I turn my hearing aids off and leave them in for ear plugs!

 
 auroranorth
 
posted on June 30, 2002 11:37:12 AM new
God how awful,

to be put next to a kid.

I suppose you could say to the parent

Gee I dont know if it is legal for me to sit next top the kid after my conviction,

now if this does not do the trick you could always

lay down in the isle and fake spasms.

or talk to the child loudly enough so all can hear say,

HI my mommy puts the cat in the microwave and dont you like the way it feels when you stick pens in an outlet ?

or bettrer yet introduce your self to the parents say

Hi John Wayne Gacy here how many kids will oyu have lefy after today ?

 
 LAIOCHKA
 
posted on July 1, 2002 07:14:45 PM new
I have taken off with no belt because they could not find an extender.
---that is not allowed on airlines, you should complain! -- if there is turbulance you could fly up from your seat and possibly die from the hit, but if you are larger then the seat you were probably stuffed in pretty tight, BUT that is not the point,

you can ask to get off the plane (which will mean that they have to pull your luggage off, which will delay the departure about 45 minutes or 1 hours so they will gladly go and find you an extender.)

I fly first class and the seats are bigger there but I've seen people that "overlap" the seats so much they should be charged for two.



 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on July 1, 2002 09:20:45 PM new
Why don't the airlines charge you for your weight, and offer different sizes of seating depending on weight and height? This would solve everything.


 
 auroranorth
 
posted on July 2, 2002 12:10:03 AM new
Yeah Like seats that come in small medium large and blimp.


(I could not resist)


RESISTANCE IS FUTILE WE ARE THE BUSHS YOU WILL BE ASSMILIATED,



 
 gravid
 
posted on July 2, 2002 06:30:56 AM new
I'm fat but I LOL at that. I'd buy the blimp even if I could use the large for the comfort.

Fat people that have no sense of humor amuse me - trying to maintaine a false dignity.

I was out with my wife waiting for a seat when this fellow that lives just north of town came in the resteraunt behind us. He said real loud so everyone could enjoy it -
"Excuse me little fellow. I have to get past you and use the restroom."

I love beeing called little fellow.

This guy is 6 foot seven inches around 500 pounds. He wears a 8x to a 10x shirt and when he takes off his wedding ring you can pass a 50 cent piece through it. He has a little paunch but no other flab hanging anywhere on him. runners leggs and weight lifter arms.
Once he came apon a wreck on the way home just as the police arrived and the fellow needed extracted from the wreck as it was smoking and they were worried about fire. While the Deputy was calling the State Hiway patrol to get a jaws of life Hank stepped past him - ripped the whole door off the side of the car and whiped out a Damascus steel Tano about 8 inches long and slices all the belts off with single strokes. Then he stepped back abnd let the cops extract him.
They were very appreciative, but a little flipped that he ripped the door off and threw it over the car into the ditch.

You watch - when seats to orbit become available there will be a charge based on your mass and that of your luggage. That is fine with me.



[ edited by gravid on Jul 2, 2002 06:40 AM ]
 
 auroranorth
 
posted on July 2, 2002 02:25:11 PM new
No there you go at last we have a use for einstinian theory. a way to calculate how much an airline can charge for a seat. I just bet that the average golf cart seat is bigger than the airline seat.

 
 kyms
 
posted on July 3, 2002 08:42:19 AM new
I think it is a great idea to charge for two seats. I don't think it is a weight problem as much as a wideness problem.

When someone sitting "next" to me is so wide that I cannot ride in semi-comfort, when their arms, legs and butt are ON me.. I am not getting the semi-comfort I paid for.

We all pay dearly to ride on a plane, does an obese persons right to be obese just cancel out my right to sit in one seat alone?

I am not disputing that everyone has a right to their own body, more power to you if you are heavy and feel good about it!

But why should others suffer because of it?

A Local DJ here in Chicago once said that he always buys two seats on a Plane or at a concert. This makes him feel better and he does not infringe on anyone elses space...

I always thought this was very considerate. I wish more people would feel this way.

I smoke. Many folks don't want to share my smoke. They have that right. I do not smoke around non-smokers and I pay a hefty sin tax to smoke. ( cannot smoke on a plane)

Maybe I don't want to share my seat with someone...Shouldn't I have a right to sit on one seat alone? Isn't this extra charge just another sin tax?

(and no, I am not a skinny person... I am of normal weight. If I were to become obese, I'd gladly pay extra for my own comfort as well as the comfort of others around me...)



 
 gravid
 
posted on July 3, 2002 09:24:02 AM new
From what I am reading the airline seats are 17 - 18 inches across. I had my wife take the tape measure just now and see how wide I am from outside to outside on my arms just below the curve at the top of my shoulder. Notice this is my size due to my frame - no fat hanging out on my arms at all to change the reading. She said a bit over 25 inches. Anyone else care to volunteer their size side to side at the shoulders?

I also got up and checked to see how wide my chair is here at the desk. 22 inches wide and real comfortable. I'd be in heaven with a airline seat this size.


[ edited by gravid on Jul 3, 2002 09:26 AM ]
 
 auroranorth
 
posted on July 3, 2002 10:10:36 AM new
NOw we have finally caught them the airlines are run by elves some silly basterd in cost cutting department has made 17inch seats lay a friggen ruler on your suv seat. The reason the airlines are in trouble is stupidity and greed.

 
 antiquary
 
posted on July 3, 2002 10:48:35 AM new
trouble is stupidity and greed

Since those are the chief values of good citizenship demonstrated by the current administration, we should hardly be surprised that corporations will continue to show their patriotism by following their outstanding examples.



 
 auroranorth
 
posted on July 3, 2002 07:38:47 PM new
I dont know how someone could say such a thing This adminsitration has shown high standards......for slime ridden slugs

 
 Libra63
 
posted on July 3, 2002 07:52:21 PM new
auroranorth I agree with you.

That's fine and all with all you slim people but I am not slim, not fat. I also have rights to the seats. I have a right not to sit next to someone who has been drinking, someone who has body odor, whose breath smells and children on parents laps. On my way back from Arizona a couple of years ago, this young mother was visiting in Milwaukee, had a child on her lap who was sick. Temp and cough. Now what are my rights? What about the people who put their seats way back and leave you no room. I think they have opened a can of worms and their census will show it.
Also tell me how are they going to police it. Are they going to ask you your height and weight or maybe clothes sizes, when you buy your ticket. I think that is an evasion of our privacy.

 
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