neonmania
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posted on March 22, 2003 08:38:42 AM new
::Why are you starting to ignore reamond's posts?::
Yeager - I can answer that. If you look at the exchanges I had with Reamond in this thread he made accusations that he could not support (stating that I supported Saddam) and credited opinions that were not mine to me and then argued them with himself. Responding to Reamond is a complete waste of time becasue he completely ignores what his "opponent" is actually saying, makes up stances for them and uses it as a platform for his own diatribes.
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yeager
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posted on March 22, 2003 11:35:49 AM new
neo,
So, in other words, he uses the same methods as Helen. Also, why can't Helen answer this queston.
She has demonstrated several times in this thread that she has lacks complete thinking skills. Either this is the case, or she is embarresed about her earlier post in the fact when a person asks her a direct question she will side step the issue, or give an answer that is completely unrelated to the question. Her posts are based on an emotional basis, rather than clear thought.
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REAMOND
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posted on March 22, 2003 11:35:57 AM new
Neo doesn't address my questions and assertions because I ask tough questions and force her to face her own positions as being anti-American and against our troops in the field. A Bush hater so blinded by hatred of Bush that they will sell our troops out, and give over to terrorism just because of who is president.
David Horiwitz is a former far left wing agitator/organizer from the 1960s, and his parents were communists.
He discovered that the left was a fraud and complicit with domestic murders within the left movement. He discovered that the left was more despotic at its core than any right wing dictatorship and could not stand the light of day.
If you get a chance read his bio- it is eye opening.
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REAMOND
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posted on March 22, 2003 11:49:25 AM new
Support for the war has risen to 76%.
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neonmania
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posted on March 22, 2003 11:54:38 AM new
::Neo doesn't address my questions and assertions because I ask tough questions and force her to face her own positions as being anti-American and against our troops in the field.::
ROFL - you truly are a sad and pathetic little man and your mind reading skills leave much to be desired. But by all means please continue the battle in your little world where you are the one true patriot and only those that follow your path are righteous. You keep fightin off dem evil commies you big bad warrior you!
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Helenjw
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posted on March 22, 2003 11:58:06 AM new
yeager
Your posts to me are filled with misinformation and insults. I do wonder why you ask and expect me to answer your questions under those circumstances.
Your obsession with me is strange.
Helen
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REAMOND
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posted on March 22, 2003 12:01:54 PM new
The only thing that is sad and pathetic are these parasites that take gross advantage and license from our American freedoms to bring down the government and our brave service men and woman in the field.
Your little world is built upon a hatred of the president that is so radical that it allows you to sell out your country and our service men and woman in harms way.
Bush will be re-elected as will an even more republican congress.
We can only hope that the traitors will find another country to live in.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 22, 2003 12:09:34 PM new
Reamond
I don't know who your remark was addressed to but my answer is that the president and his administration put our troops in harms way for his own greedy agenda...to achieve power and strategic postion and oil in the mid east.
Shame on him.
I have more concern for the troops than he has in his little finger. I am 100% in support of the troops.
Helen
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REAMOND
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posted on March 22, 2003 12:13:11 PM new
If you support the troops 100% then you support their mission.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 22, 2003 12:25:35 PM new
Not true. Many of the troops are not there because they want to be. They are following orders which they agreed to do when they volunteered. They volunteered because they are patriotic and because they needed a job. But they didn't bargain to fight a war like this one which could be avoided.
Helen
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yeager
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posted on March 22, 2003 12:26:29 PM new
helen says,
Your obsession with me is strange.
Well Helen, you must understand that I HAVE NO OBSESSION TOWARDS YOU. It's very simple, you are the lighting rod. You are the most vocal in your position. As everyone knows, the lighting bolts stikes the highest point. If you truly believe in your position, then you should expect to brave the heat.
One might also say, you are obsessed in an anti civilized world movement. Now go to the round table and read the new topic I started just for you. We are waiting. LOL
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yeager
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posted on March 22, 2003 12:50:25 PM new
Wrong again helen.
Many of the people in the US Military already had jobs. They left their jobs to join the Military because they felt the need to contribute to the country they love.
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MAH645
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posted on March 22, 2003 04:46:37 PM new
Whatever happened to supporting our President? And supporting the ones who thought this cause was worth dying for.They didn't protest anything, alot of them willing signed up to go for this war.Meanwhile we have people over here protesting,trying to prove they were wrong.Most of them because they don't like Bush and they want to be seen.If somebody threw a firecracker in the middle of the crowd,it would take you a month to find the yellow bellies.
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Linda_K
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posted on March 22, 2003 05:48:34 PM new
That's a good question.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 22, 2003 06:12:33 PM new
MAH645
We have people protesting here to end the war movement so that NO troops will be injured or killed.
Helen
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KatyD
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posted on March 22, 2003 06:32:20 PM new
We have people protesting here to end the war movement so that NO troops will be injured or killed.
But it's okay to leave Saddam there to murder another million Iraquis so as long as we can continue to live our fat comfortable American lives. Betcha you were up in arms about all the Muslims Milosovic was murdering, weren't you Helen? Oh but that was Clinton that took care of that, not Bush. Hmm?
KatyD
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Helenjw
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posted on March 22, 2003 06:46:01 PM new
Actually, KatyD I'm not in favor of war, as you know, no matter who is president. If we can't manage to use diplomacy and negotiating skills to handle our problems -and we are going to rescue the world from tyrants we will be a warrior nation forever...all by ourselves.
Helen
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keiichem
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posted on March 22, 2003 06:56:09 PM new
snowy
the school of the americas was established to fight the lying, murdering RED devils.
http://www.cubainfolinks.net/Documents/chronology.htm
aust:
first, comrade is a commie term. second, i can't see how you where able to supertwist an obvious statement and end up fishing for an anti-jew remark.
max
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KatyD
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posted on March 22, 2003 07:03:13 PM new
If we can't manage to use diplomacy and negotiating skills to handle our problems
In a perfect world, this would be a noble quest. We've found out diplomacy doesn't work with Saddam, how do you propose we "negotiate" with him. Tell him we'll let him have only half the womd's he has? Only murder, say, 1000 people a year, instead of 10,000? Facetious questions, sure. But I've not yet seen you come up with one single realistic answer on how to deal with Saddam, no matter who or how many here ask you..over and over again. "Diplomacy and negotiation" hasn't worked before, even with other administrations.
Does it not concern you that more innocent Iraqui lives are lost to Saddam while diplomacy and negotiation are engaged in ad nauseum? Betcha you'd be concerned if they were YOUR family and loved ones disappearing into Saddams basement prisons. But they're not, are they? So you can live in your safe complacent little world knowing that "those other lives" don't matter...after all, they don't personally affect you.
KatyD
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DeSquirrel
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posted on March 22, 2003 07:12:24 PM new
You can only negotiate if you have a common frame of reference. If you want to sell something to a neighbor you know what it costs you. Your neighbor knows what it sells for and what he wants to pay and estimates what you will accept for it. What the left finds incapable of understanding is that there is a certain percentage of "neighbors" who will theorize that if he grabs your kid and puts a gun to his head, you'll take half. Such neighbors have to be destroyed, not just for your sake, but for the next guy down the block.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 22, 2003 07:22:48 PM new
I see you are in attack mode tonight, KatyD.hmmm... First, liberating Iraqis from Saddam is not the reason for this war. There is no way that you would induce George Bush to go to Nigeria to take care of those people or even send them money for sufficient food and aids medication.
Your question makes me look like a selfish uncaring lout. I resent that because you know it's not true. I am very sensitive about other's lives. In fact that is why I oppose this war.
Helen
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KatyD
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posted on March 22, 2003 07:31:38 PM new
I'm not in "attack mode" Helen. And I do think you "care" in an effectual and impotent sort of way. Your "caring" is no sacrifice to you. It's easy for you to "care" because you don't have to do anything to change all these ills of the world that you "care" about so much. But it doesn't cost anything to "care" does it? It's like window shopping...fantasize about what you'd like to buy, but you don't have to worry about the cost to your pocketbook, because you know you aren't going to spend the money.
What about Hitler, Helen? In light of your "pacifist" views, do you think putting an end to Hitler should have been approached from the diplomacy and negotiation angle? Would that have saved more Jews do you think? Or were those Jewish lives not worth American blood? How about the rest of Europe? Were they not worth American (and Ally) lives?
KatyD
KatyD
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kraftdinner
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posted on March 22, 2003 07:32:37 PM new
Katy, let's say that every country had equal nuclear capabilities. How would another country go about getting rid of a Saddam type?
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Helenjw
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posted on March 22, 2003 07:38:00 PM new
Well, if you think that I care in an effectual and impotent way, there is no point in talking to me...is there?
Helen
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kraftdinner
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posted on March 22, 2003 07:42:50 PM new
Katy, do you care in a more meaningful way than Helen? What a laugh.
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KatyD
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posted on March 22, 2003 07:43:34 PM new
I guess not, Helen. 
KatyD
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Twelvepole
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posted on March 22, 2003 07:46:55 PM new
Katy, Helen is only a pacifist when it suits her to be one...
LOL
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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Helenjw
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posted on March 22, 2003 07:48:26 PM new
KatyD
Not for your benefit, but for the record, I am not a pacifist. I believe in defense and for that reason I certainly do believe that the Jewish lives were worth American blood and the rest of Europe.
Helen
sp.ed.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 22, 2003 07:53:25 PM new
twelvepole
It's my understanding that a pacifist doesn't believe in defense. That doesn't describe my feelings. I believe in maintaining a good defense. But I do not believe in preemptive war that violates international law and the UN charter.
Millions of people think exactly as I do.
Helen
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KatyD
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posted on March 22, 2003 07:54:08 PM new
Ahh, Helen. The I was right in the other thread. It's really is all about simple unabiding hatred for Bush and not about those innocent lives lost to Saddam. It's actionable when Hitler or Milosovic does it, but not when Saddam does it. Why? Because Bush wasn't part of the equation with the other two.
KatyD
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