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 crowfarm
 
posted on August 4, 2004 10:46:56 AM new
Libra all the answers to your questions are in my post. Why don't you take a class in reading comprenension..you're never too old ..and maybe you'll learn how to understand English.

It was the mayor of St.Paul, stupid, not the governor.


Is English your second language?

 
 Libra63
 
posted on August 4, 2004 11:04:14 AM new
May I Apologize to our dear crowfarm. I am sorry so sorry so very sorry I said governor instead of Mayor. Strike me down.

Answers to questions I didn't ask and didn't care about. You need to speak for YOURSELF not others. I bet your phone rings all the time with complaints from your relatives about losing their jobs. I didn't ask about relatives I asked about you or other posters on this board. See you have a problem with reading comprehension.

BUT did YOU read the rest of my post where I survived after I lost my job. It's obvious you have a reading problem also. I don't understand what english has to do with the governor oops mayor of St. Paul.

 
 crowfarm
 
posted on August 4, 2004 11:28:25 AM new
Libra, That's the differnce between Republicans and Deomocrats.

In your posts EVERYTHING is about YOU. YOU got a job so what's wrong with all those lazy slobs who can't find one.

You ONLY care about YOU so the hardships of others just doesn't bother YOU.

Your quote says it all,"Answers to questions I didn't ask and DIDN'T CARE ABOUT"



No wonder you hate people like Theresa Kerry who has anything her heart desires and STILL thinks of others and uses her wealth to help them.

Also , Theresa can speak 5 languages fluently and YOU have a hard time with one....jealous?

Your quote,"I don't understand what english has to do with the governor oops mayor of St. Paul."

Oh, just being able to tell two different words apart...that's all.


And here's the part you missed completely since you were so anxious to talk about yourself......You missed the PERSONAL stuff YOU asked for:

"I had a 9% pay cut with no end in sight and certainly no raises for a long long time even though the cost of living increases.

Electric bill has sky rocketed

Butter is $5.96 a pound

Price of gas is so high I can no longer drive unnecessarily and plot my weekly "errand" drive better than the war in Iraq was planned (which is easy) "

[ edited by crowfarm on Aug 4, 2004 11:39 AM ]
[ edited by crowfarm on Aug 4, 2004 11:47 AM ]
 
 Libra63
 
posted on August 4, 2004 12:02:46 PM new
I didn't sit home and say someone owes me a living I went out and found mine. I could really care how many languages she can speak it doesn't impress me a bit. Nothing about her impresses me especially when she uses language unbecoming a women and yes even a man. People look up to people who have money and that person should respect the people she is talking to. I personally feel she does nothing for John Kerry.

It isn't about me it is about everyone and if their life has changed in the last 4 years. You talked about all your relatives I talked about what happened to me and how I recovered.
Yes it was about me on how I lost my job but recovered and found another. I didn't sit around and cry, mope or anything. I didn't go to my relatives and complain. I found another job. It's about survival. Nobody owes me a living except me. Sit home and cry nothing good welcome of it. Go out and pound the streets looking for another good things will come of that.

No wonder you hate people like Theresa Kerry who has anything her heart desires and STILL thinks of others and uses her wealth to help them. Yes like giving to Tides. I do not hate people of wealth, some wealthy people i.e.Sam Johnson do good for others and their community. Not giving to organizations against America.

Also , Theresa can speak 5 languages fluently and YOU have a hard time with one....jealous? It's not how many languages you speak it is how you use them. Maybe she should have said that in a different language and it wouldn't sound so bad. She will not help John Kerry with his run for the President JMHO

Your quote,"I don't understand what english has to do with the governor oops mayor of St. Paul."
Oh Oh I hit a nerve the Governor of Minnesota is Republican.

Oh, just being able to tell two differnt words apart...that's all. Check your spelling in this one. Point out my flaws and yours will appear also.




 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 4, 2004 07:40:46 PM new
neroter - Linda, I did read the article and I dont know what to think about the Tides foundation.

The organization is clearly a secret, donator names withheld organization. Why would they have a problem having their donations/names attached to the groups they support. No need to do so unless there is something to hide.


As you can read many are very far-left and anyone who reads up on the CAIR website will soon see they aren't pro-American.




One thing struck me as odd is clumping in enviromentalists as the radical left. To me a lot of these people do not make much money - but what they are doing, is out of a belief we are ruining our good earth. I personally think there is a lot of solid evidence towards that.


Because, imo, there are concerned enviormentalists and there are the radical enviromentalists who put nature and animals BEFORE human needs....ability to earn a living...feed themselves...build on land they've previously purchase and now are allowed to build on...etc.
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And on the profe's Tide Center denial article ....how easy to issue a denial...if it's all untrue, as they claim, seems like they'd be filling lawsuits against those who have spent time and money investigating what they really do....secretly....and for which organizations to make Americans aware they just may NOT support her backing these groups.


People can read both sides and make up their own minds.



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 Bear1949
 
posted on August 4, 2004 10:08:34 PM new
Apparently Theresa thinks she is {b]Mother[/b] Theresa, She's becoming more of a liability to John-John than an asset.


TERESA: NOW OFFICIALLY A LIABILITY.
Heir Rant
by Andrew Sullivan

What were they thinking?

I suppose as a strategy, putting Teresa Heinz Kerry front and center on the second night of the DNC convention was an attempt to preempt criticism. The Kerry campaign did not want to look as if it was hiding THK, or embarrassed by her, or afraid of her. So she spoke. What did she say? Here's some of the text of her speech. I'll tackle just a few passages of its self-congratulatory pablum.

Start with this piece of grandstanding:

Y a todos los Hispanos, y los Latinos; a tous les Franco Americains, a tutti Italiani; a toda a familia Portugesa e Brazileria; and to all the continental Africans living in this country, and to all the new Americans in our country: I invite you to join in our conversation, and together with us work towards the noblest purpose of all: a free, good, and democratic society.

Now there are many languages spoken in the United States. French isn't one of the more common ones. Neither is Portuguese. THK was saying nothing here, it seems to me, except, "I can speak lots of languages." Good for her. But the point? That her opponents don't care to appeal to new immigrants? Or that new immigrants have a special claim on the Democrats? As one myself, I'd like to think so, but I'd also like not to be set apart. The opening of her speech was simply an exercise in exhibitionist cosmopolitanism. She's not the Pope; and her audience is American, not French. I don't get it. Neither, I suspect, did many others.

Then there was this familiar feminist rallying cry:

I have a very personal feeling about how special America is, and I know how precious freedom is. It is a sacred gift, sanctified by those who have lived it and those who have died defending it. My right to speak my mind, to have a voice, to be what some have called "opinionated," is a right I deeply and profoundly cherish. And my only hope is that, one day soon, women--who have all earned their right to their opinions--instead of being called opinionated, will be called smart and well-informed, just like men. Thank you. Merci.

It is hard not to second the notion that intelligent women with views should not be patronized with the word "opinionated." It would be equally refreshing not to have eloquent African Americans described as "articulate," as George Mitchell did when describing Barack Obama. But coming from a woman who married her wealth, this kind of victimology is a little, er, rich. It is equally preposterous to say that all women in American public life are viewed this way. When has Condi Rice been called "opinionated"? Or Barbara Mikulski? Or Kay Bailey Hutchison? Yes, this point undoubtedly resonated with many women who have to deal with insufferable condescension and dismissal in their daily lives. But it is hard to think of the billionaire heiress as their peer. She is called "opinionated" because she is, and because she is an unelected private citizen who believes that her marriage entitles her to lecture the rest of us. Why else, after all, is she at the convention? She is there as a spouse. Period. In that sense, she is not advancing feminism. She is helping to hold it back. And then, for good measure, she addresses the applauding crowd and says, "Merci." Why? Are they French? Or is she just off on some Francophile digression? Who knows? Whatever the explanation, she comes across as ever-so-slightly nutty.

But the weirdness has just begun. How about this one: "And John is a fighter. He earned his medals the old-fashioned way, by putting his life on the line for his country." Is THK saying that some people have earned war medals without deserving them? Is she criticizing the system of granting military honors today as somehow too liberal? The phrase "the old-fashioned way" just hangs there--with no apparent point and no purpose at all. Did she not have an editor? Or can she get away with anything?

Then we get the following:

And that is why, as president, my husband will not fear disagreement or dissent. He believes that our voices--yours and mine--must be the voices of freedom. And if we do not speak, neither does she.

To whom does the word "she" refer to? Freedom? Are we speaking French again and attributing some kind of feminine gender to a noun? Or are we making another pompous feminist reference? I have no idea. But I doubt a single one of her listeners understood what she was trying to say.

The world, however, is a dangerous place. And THK is not unaware of this. Here are her priorities:

With John Kerry as president, global climate change and other threats to the health of our planet will begin to be reversed. With John Kerry as president, the alliances that bind the community of nations and that truly make our country and the world a safer place, will be strengthened once more.

So if we just ratify the Kyoto Treaty and be nice to Jacques Chirac, our global problems will be over? Whom is she kidding? One can only hope it isn't her husband. Then her peroration: "Together we will lift everyone up. We have to. It's possible. And you know what? It's the American thing to do." This is a theme of THK. Her side is the American side. The others are "un-American." She said this the other day and then, when a reporter asked her what she meant by the term "un-American," she denied she said it (which was untrue) and then told the reporter to "shove it." But she keeps returning to the theme because she really believes that Bush Republicanism is somehow un-American. Now just imagine if Laura Bush described the Democrats as "un-American." Do you think it would be ignored by the media, as THK's outburst Tuesday night was?

Do her words matter? Probably not. But I have a couple of serious worries. THK is the classic hyper-rich liberal female. Like many absurdly wealthy people, she is not used to actually engaging people as equals. Few speak back to her. She is also unused to real debate. She has never run for office, and although her philanthropic record is stellar and deeply admirable, her political ideas are half-baked and run completely counter to the centrist message this convention has been so shrewdly sending out. So how did she get away with such a spot? I fear that she got what she wanted merely because she insisted; and that her insistence is enough to get her anything she wants. That is not a good omen for a future Kerry administration. We already endured one unelected condescender as co-president for eight years. But mercifully, Hillary Rodham Clinton is now a legitimate politician, elected in her own right, as all democratic leaders ought to be. THK is another matter.

It's hard not to like her. I'd love to have dinner with her. I'm sure she's a wonderful spouse, great mother, and peerless philanthropist. But she is now officially a liability for Kerry's campaign. And the campaign let it happen. If Kerry's advisers want to win, they'd better tell her to quiet down and take a backseat to the man who is actually running for office. And if she won't, someone, somewhere, is going to have to tell her to shove it.

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=fisking&s=sullivan072804





 
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