posted on December 13, 2004 03:56:15 AM new
Recently, libra has been concerned about moral values in society. The concern is that some of society is not really moral anymore. So I want to do my part and thought that I would "get moral".
I think that I should drive drunk and get arrested like Bush.
I think that I should start a televangelist ministry like Jimmy Bakker and bilk millions of dollars out of my followers, and be convicted of racketeering and be sent to a federal prison. (At taxpayers expense of course)
I think that I should have my own church ministry and get married. Then I would have to go out and find a $35.00 hooker to fuckk some night. Then I can go on national TV news and blubber that "I have sinned", just like Jimmy Swaggart did.
I think that I should go to a cathlick seminary and become an ordained priest. Then I can repeatedly rape young boys. If they church finds out about this, I know that they will move me to another church so my new victims won't suspect anything wrong. When I am sued for this, the church will pay off the victims, and it necessary, file for bankruptcy.
Is that moral enough libra? Or do I need more moral values. Please guide me on this. If you agree to guide me on this, I promise that I will sell all of my hip hop clothes and donate the proceeds to a charity of your choice.
posted on December 13, 2004 05:01:40 AM new
Me, too. Me, too. I guess I'm immoral, as well. I believe in equality for ALL people. This includes, but is not limited to, people of color, people of different religions, people with alternative lifestyles. I believe the poor have just as much right to a decent meal as the rich. I believe that a Muslim, Buddhist, Christian and an Athiest can live side-by-side and respect each other if given half a chance. I believe the environment needs to be protected. I believe we need to work on alternate fuels. I believe in Darwin and I don't believe in creatism, but I don't begrudge your belief in it. I believe health-care is a right not a privilege. I believe in God, but not in organized religion.
Gosh, I'm more immoral than I thought.
Cheryl
"Success in almost any field depends more on energy and drive than it does on intelligence. This explains why we have so many stupid leaders."
-Sloan Wilson
posted on December 13, 2004 06:29:26 AM new
I see every person as equal too. I view everyone as a human being.
I don't care if people never go to church or go 7 days a week and camp out on the front steps overnight.
I don't care who sleeps with who. I am not curious, nor do I care if anyone on this forum is gay either. These things are none of my business. I see gay people as human beings too.
What I do care about is when politicians and churches group together to form a "new America". There is no good to come from this.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
posted on December 13, 2004 10:25:51 AM new
Maybe we should be one of those MORAL church going priests and bishops....you know the ones that RAPE children and the ones that protect the criminals!
LIBRA DUH, THEY go to church all the time!
AND, unlike Kerry are STILL permitted to receive communion!
posted on December 13, 2004 08:38:01 PM new
Yeager - Evidently you failed to read the thread as I wrote it. I did a C & P on what the democrats need to do to get more voters. Read it again as the highlighted parts are what I am referring to. They are the ones referring to Moral values and Church goers. Did you pass that part over. Of course with your selective reading you can't understand why the democrates need to change their views.
I also answered your questions in that post and I am not going to do it again.
Evidently I didn't answer fast enough your other thread and you had to post it again. Well I have a life, and I don't spend 24/7 in here like a few others and that includes you.
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posted on December 13, 2004 08:41:51 PM new
{B}I think that I should go to a cathlick seminary and become an ordained priest{/B}. Then I can repeatedly rape young boys
No yeager you can just walk down the street or make friends with your neighbors children and do the same thing. The're many men that are serving jail time that have done that. Then they serve their time and come out and put back in neighborhoods with children.
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posted on December 13, 2004 08:56:10 PM new
Okay you talk about the priests yeager. What about the women teachers that take advantage of young boys. You seem to never mention that. Should be not send our children to school?
Cheryl - Tell me why when Bill Clinton ran for president he promised health care for all. Did we get it. NO.
I am not a believer of taking from the rich and giving to the poor. We live in a democracy and we have the same rights as everyone else to do with our lives what we want to do. Some make good choices others sit on their butt and want someone to support them. Most go out and work for what they want, invest properly and live good. Others just go out and work.
I am not going to support people that think welfare is something they deserve. Welfare is for families that have tried to make their way in life but didn't succeed. There are two many generations of families that think they are owed a living.
In our state as many states there is health care provided for the low income families and it is free. It goes up in increments with the amount of money you make in a year.
I qualify for free medications as it applies to your yearly income.
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posted on December 13, 2004 10:14:03 PM new
When these people lose their jobs and need to feed their families, it's not because they choose that lifestyle, Libra. We live in a society where the rich use the poor for self-gain. It's not a case of hard work anymore. Look at the banks, drug, companies, insurance companies, investment companies... any large company is in it for profit only or they would all pay their employees better wages and benefits. Do you think Mr. Big Wig CEO would lower his wages so a few could remain employed?? Don't blame the worker, blame the person that runs the worker into the ground so he/she can afford the fancy cars and gold bathtubs at the expense of their employees. If these people don't deserve welfare, who does?
posted on December 13, 2004 11:12:41 PM new
libra says,
No yeager you can just walk down the street or make friends with your neighbors children and do the same thing.
Sorry libra, I think that my way of becoming a cathlick priest is better. I can have the trust of brainwashed parents who will easily allow me to be with there children. In your way, I would have to wander my neighborhood looking for my victims. In my way, the victims are brought to me in an endless supply. Plus, in my way, I would have the backing of a multi million organization that would protect me, cover for me, hide me, and lie for me.
What about the women teachers that take advantage of young boys. You seem to never mention that. Should be not send our children to school?
The teacher should be dealt with in the same way. ANYONE who takes advantage of a child should be removed from the environment immediately, and if found guilty, should be punished. Locally, there was a high school teacher who was charged with inappropriately touching 3 high school girls. He was removed and tried in court. He was found not guilty on all charges. The school district fired him any way and the teacher's tenure committee could not get him back. The reason that he was probably fired is that the school board is an elected body. Unlike the cathlick church, they didn't choose to hid this from the public.
We live in a democracy and we have the same rights as everyone else to do with our lives what we want to do.
Yeah right. Except in the case of Gay Marriage and abortion.
Most go out and work for what they want, invest properly and live good. Others just go out and work.
Has it ever occurred to you that many people don't have money to "invest properly"? How is it that a person that doesn't have the money to invest properly could even live good. Many people are living poorly and barely getting by.
As far as people wanting to live on welfare, I have a sister in law that was on it at one time. Here in Michigan, there is about 30 pages to fill out to apply for welfare. I am sure the this application is carefully scrutinized.
As far as your comment on the other thread, the main concept of that thread was to state the democrats are lacking in what Americans want in the line of moral values. I don't think that is so. I think the GOP found the group that it could manipulate and tell them what they wanted to hear. That's all.
I personally don't know about you, but I would rather have a vibrant economy with good jobs. I personally don't care if gay men and women who love each other want to get married. I don't care if a woman wants to have a medical procedure that some politician deem controversial. It seems that we have a "moral" president who wants to control a persons private life, and could really care less if they have a job.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
posted on December 14, 2004 06:49:07 AM new
So you think killing babies is okay? Sounds good to me. What if your mother thought about abortion when she was pregnant with you?
Evidently you haven't had much contact with babies or I am sure you would change your mind. But maybe not with the mindset you have you only see tunnel vision. You never look at the whole picture. Just what suits you. Every child has a right to be born and not thrown in an incinerator.
Tell me yeager if you were CEO of a large company would you turn down raises?
Well it is off to baby sit my granddaughter. 11 months old, just beginning to walk and of course beautiful.
Just think women who have abortions will never see that. [sad]
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posted on December 14, 2004 08:15:29 AM new
Well said, yeager!
Cheryl
"Success in almost any field depends more on energy and drive than it does on intelligence. This explains why we have so many stupid leaders."
-Sloan Wilson
posted on December 14, 2004 12:02:19 PM new
libra says,
So you think killing babies is okay?
Who is killing babies? Not doctors. It's illegal to kill another human being in this country. Dr. Kevorkian went to prison for it. If you are talking about abortion, then you must accept the highest court in the land made it's ruling on that. If you have ever done any research on the subject, then you would know that abortion was commonly practiced as far back as the 1840's. Then all the way up to 1965, you know the moral 60's. In 1965 it was outlawed in every state until the USSC ruled the state laws to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
What if your mother thought about abortion when she was pregnant with you?
Well, if that was the case, then I wouldn't be able to answer your stupid remarks.
Evidently you haven't had much contact with babies or I am sure you would change your mind.
How would you know that to be true? Just because there are some pregnant women who don't want to complete their pregnancy, does not mean that I don't like children. The court has ruled that the choice is between the woman and her doctor.
Tell me yeager if you were CEO of a large company would you turn down raises?
Where in this thread did I mention any CEO? I made a statement about people who work everyday and have nothing to save or invest. The scrape by every week.
You are the one who needs to READ READ READ.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
posted on December 14, 2004 01:18:26 PM new
Since you couldn't wait for me to answer your other thread you started this one as a continuation of the other one. You said in there
"If you recall, I think that I pointed out to you already that the executives who bilked the Enron accounts were not wearing hip hop clothes. They were very likely wearing expensive suits. Are these people moral?"
So I asked you the question if you were CEO would you turn down raises?
Cheryl you didn't answer my question. When Clinton ran for president one of his objectives was National Health care for all. What happened?
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posted on December 14, 2004 01:31:15 PM new
Libra, when Americans found out how much they would have to pay to initialize socialized health care, and what it would entail, they weren't interested. Doesn't mean his plan wasn't a good one.
posted on December 14, 2004 01:38:28 PM new
"I think that I should drive drunk and get arrested like Bush"
you can do better yeager-drive drunk,drive off a bridge and end up in water killing someone like senator Kennedy,meanwhile saving your own mangy ass-demorcrats are good for that.
posted on December 14, 2004 01:41:32 PM new
"I think that I should have my own church ministry and get married. Then I would have to go out and find a $35.00 hooker to fuckk some night"
you can do better yeager-get a blowjob from your own intern like president clinton,then have the privilege of shooting your wad all over her dress and all this for nothing...or you that desperate you have to pay for it?
[ edited by classicrock000 on Dec 14, 2004 01:46 PM ]
posted on December 14, 2004 01:44:32 PM new
"I think that I should start a televangelist ministry like Jimmy Bakker and bilk millions of dollars out of my followers, and be convicted of racketeering and be sent to a federal prison. (At taxpayers expense of course)"
why not? If you have a slimball president like clinton, you will be pardon anyway 15 minutes before he leaves office, like he did with those other criminals.
posted on December 14, 2004 02:56:09 PM new
You overlooked the comment about the cathlick priest raping young boys. What do you think that I should do in that case?
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
posted on December 14, 2004 03:22:55 PM new
Your wife's a democrat and you want to do away with democrats, Classic? is there some kind of hidden message in there?
posted on December 15, 2004 10:04:39 AM new
HERE'S some 'MORAL' values from the right ......
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posted on December 15, 2004 02:39:08 AM
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"At one time doctors would sterilize Native Americans and Blacks without them even knowing about it....these "doctors" thought they knew what was best"
Well, they did""""""""
This "person" is moral...?....is human? No, he's a neonazicon Republican...this is who they are!
Prevent Bigotry through Education.