posted on December 16, 2004 06:33:52 AM new
maggie, be careful who you choose for friends. My old dad always told me "When you run with the dogs, you'll get fleas:.
posted on December 16, 2004 09:56:07 AM new
Thanks for the "shootin' straight posts , Maggie....."""You boys have a problem with Crow because she speaks her mind and tells it how it is.
She stands up for everything good and fair and you don't see it. You expect women to mollycoddle and titillate you and stroke your egos..all the time, but Crow doesn't do that and it flies in the face of your masculinity..."""
Then you posted, ""Now..if you are going to have a contest on who says the crudest, filthy, foul mouthed, name calling ...Etex... I believe the prize for the day goes to the poster who wrote this
...crowc*nt .... """
(Did you notice extex's "skirt around the point" answer?
You were right and he (like all the other men in here couldn't handle it). All they can do is insult and talk dirty. I wonder if classic's wife, the skagbeast, knows how he gets off in here? I doubt it.)
So, as I've posted before it's still a matter of the neanderthals thinking that men can say anything they want and the women in here have to be "nice". And they just can't handle a woman who proves them wrong.
Classic said he wanted to have a conversation? No, he didn't, he followed EVERY one of my posts with nothing but an inane insult that had nothing to do with the topic and everything to do with his crushed ego.
He made an extremely ugly racist remark and it seems people in here just don't care....I find it hard to believe that they are SO sensitive about a woman who doesn't show them the "proper respect" and kiss their asp but nobody seems to mind hideous racial slurs!
Some haven't the wit or brain power to even argue so insult me and even attack the quality of my auctions....pretty slimey and low.
It's true I can insult with the best of them but so what? At least I'm not a sneaky, crawly thing like linda who doesn't outright insult peole but crawls in with another ID or supports someone else's insults with a CLEVER LOL.
So, here's a big boost to their fragile, delicate egos....they've chased me off the RT. They can now grunt and beat their fists on their bony little chests (or beat their wives or whatever they do to celebrate their giant accomplishments in life). I can't take a chance of them messing with my auctions which are part of my income. And, people this low will.
So, it's been entertaining but I won't miss it a bit.
Now let the grunting begin!!!!!!!!!!Bye
posted on December 16, 2004 10:10:39 AM new
Back on topic -
When it comes to moral values and how liberals and conservatives believe they each hold a moral position - I agreed with this 'take' on how the liberals believe THEY are superior and it [in my view] is exactly how te liberals here come across to me when they share their positions.
Wednesday's Times was hardly exceptional. In the liberal worldview, a common thread of moral conceit runs through nearly every issue. No matter which issue, liberals presume to occupy the moral high ground.
Consider these examples from the liberal perspective:
-- Crime and punishment. Conservatives are hard-hearted toward criminals, favoring punishment over rehabilitation.
-- Gun control. Right-wing Neanderthals are so hell-bent on indulging their redneck macho paranoia, they insist on stocking every room in their homes with Uzis, regardless of the potential danger to children and innocent, under-armed victims who might choose, because of unhappy childhoods, to burglarize their property.
-- Race. Conservatives are bigots.
-- Homosexuality. Conservatives are unenlightened homophobes.
-- Taxes. Conservatives are avaricious, selfish pigs for not wanting half of their income confiscated by a socialistic government and for maintaining the money is theirs in the first place.
-- Iraq. Bush/Cheney sent our soldiers to die for their political and financial gain.
-- Social Security. Republicans want to partially privatize it as a sop to their filthy rich, capitalist buddies in the big brokerage houses.
-- Environment. Conservatives want to poison the air and water because they care more about their evil polluting corporate allies than their own children's' health.
-- Abortion. Conservatives want to oppress women.
The liberals' self-adulation over moral issues has remained a constant over the years. The only thing that's changed is that presumptuous conservatives who obviously don't know their place finally started to challenge the liberals' claim to moral superiority. And that just won't do.
posted on December 16, 2004 11:53:35 AM new
Sorry about that Maggie, but I'm going out smiling.....
First "grunt" came from linduh which I predicted....I knew she didn't ignore my posts.
Now, that I'm not here to regularly kick her butt she's free to post her senile blathering. And if her idea of "civility" is twelve, classic, bear, child torture and racism....then I guess she'd never like MY form of civility.
But be kind to her...the RT (and the "men" in it) is all she has to keep her warm at night
posted on December 16, 2004 12:09:54 PM new
IS IT not time to redefine the much abused term "liberal" as a badge of honor instead of a slur?
The Constitution defines liberty and freedom as a right for all men. Check the dictionary for the following words:
Liberal: "Having, expressing, or following views or politics that favor freedom of a people, to act or express themselves in a manner of their choosing."
Liberty: "The condition of not being subject to restriction and control, the right to act in a manner of one's own choosing."
A liberal is a person who upholds liberty as a right that we should all expect and strive to maintain. The opposite of liberty is intolerance, religious bigotry, and discrimination. These are the very sins that our forefathers fled from in Europe.
I rather be a free thinking liberal than a blindly led conservative who follows the leader over a bridge because the leader proclaims to have morals and knows what is best for everyone else.
Q. What's the difference between the Vietnam War and the Iraq War?
A. George W. Bush had a plan to get out of the Vietnam War.
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There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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posted on December 16, 2004 12:30:22 PM newI rather be a free thinking liberal than a blindly led conservative who follows the leader over a bridge because the leader proclaims to have morals and knows what is best for everyone else.
What a twisted way of viewing how conservatives, including conservative democrats/moderate democrats see the issues. Can't see that it is individuals that make decisions [moral/value/lifestyle] and THEN vote for a candidate that most represents their values [etc.] Just like the ultra-liberals/liberals do. But the liberals know the majority of American's DON'T support their positions in big enough numbers to get elected, so they HAVE TO come more to the middle of the road and away from the Pelosi/kerry far, far left ideals - And they do. That's why clinton was elected. He didn't hold an ultra liberal position on the issues. He was more moderate or else he wouldn't have been elected either.
The democrat party is currently trying to decide if their going the kerry/dean route or if they're going to come more to the center again....their ONLY way of being elected. A couple of days ago, kerry surprised a group of people when he said the dems were going to have to figure out a way to get more of the pro-lifers to vote democratic...and that includes the dem conservatives and dem moderates as their vote usually goes to the republican candidate in each election. THEY want those people back....and aren't going to get them by holding their line on 'no restrictions' on abortions.
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posted on December 16, 2004 12:46:01 PM new
"I rather be a free thinking liberal than a blindly led conservative who follows the leader over a bridge because the leader proclaims to have morals and knows what is best for everyone else".
Now you are sterotyping people. Go ahead and be a free thinking liberal, but to say that about conservatives that they are blindly led is stupid. Do you think everyone that voted republican was republican? I will make a bet that most people are free thinking. We have choices whether liberal or conservative and I doubt we wake up in the morning programed to be either one.
You were ready to follow a leader whom you think, and I am sure, also has morals but didn't know from one day to the next what he was going to do.
BTW according to your definitions we are all liberals. We all have liberty. Well we really don't when someone can't have religious statues on government property. Have Christmas programs in school. What I want to know will they soon ban religious Christmas music on the radio?
I know where you can go if you are a gay or lesbian is move to Canada where they have recently voted to allow Gay Marriages.
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posted on December 16, 2004 12:52:00 PM new
-- Abortion. Conservatives want to oppress women. No they want to save babies.
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posted on December 16, 2004 12:54:43 PM new
Crow, nobody is messing with your auctions. Get new glasses! Classic asked what you did besides post here. I told him you're probably doing eBay (like the rest of us) and how time consuming it is. If there's something wrong with me saying that, you DO have a problem.
Another thing is that many of us joke around by pushing each others buttons. It's been like that since I started posting here. Some take it all too seriously, get mad, call us all names, do a manifesto, then leave. Since you've been here, I haven't seen you laugh or joke around much but you sure can call us all names - problem is, you're serious. Most of us aren't - that's the difference.
I'm sorry you find you can't handle it here. I'm sorry you can't see the humour in the guys here instead of thinking they're all nazi's and perverts. I'm sorry you can't separate the person from the talk, like Linda, Bear, Twelve, Classic, etc. - great people with different ideas than you, that's all. Doesn't make them bad people. Pretty boring if we all felt the same, imo.
Anyway, have a safe and happy Christmas and don't work too hard!
posted on December 16, 2004 01:33:01 PM new
What a twisted way of viewing how conservatives,
But the liberals know the majority of American's DON'T support their positions in big enough numbers to get elected, so they HAVE TO come more to the middle of the road.
How is my view any different than what you posted Linda:
I agreed with this 'take' on how the liberals believe THEY are superior and it [in my view] is exactly how te liberals here come across to me when they share their positions liberals presume to occupy the moral high ground.
talking about sterortypes. Again it is ok for Linda to post her viewpoints but if anyone else says something negative about the conservatives they are sterotyping, Anti- American or dont have morals.
Exactly why I think conservatives follow people and are not free thinkers.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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posted on December 16, 2004 01:35:10 PM new
Libra: I know where you can go if you are a gay or lesbian is move to Canada where they have recently voted to allow Gay Marriages.
Why am I the one that has to go someplace? You are the one that is worried about moral values. Maybe it is you that should more since you are the one that do not like what this country was founded upon.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- "Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
posted on December 16, 2004 01:37:29 PM new
You can lead some Christians to knowledge, but you can't make them think. This is especially so if thinking conflicts with the Bible.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- "Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
posted on December 16, 2004 01:52:53 PM new
Libra: I know where you can go if you are a gay or lesbian is move to Canada where they have recently voted to allow Gay Marriages.
Why am I the one that has to go someplace? You are the one that is worried about moral values. Maybe it is you that should more since you are the one that do not like what this country was founded upon.
Because you are the one complaining that gay and lesbians can't get married. That is why.
Was the country founded on gay and lesbians? Why don't I like what the country was founded on? Explain that to me. But be sure you are correct.
So you are saying you are not Christian.
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posted on December 16, 2004 02:05:38 PM new
Okay, now I am throwing a tantrum.. kicking furniture, punching pillows etc.. and just plain furious and disappointed that Crow is leaving.. I sure wish you would change your mind, Crow.. I love your peppered posts and your clear thinking...Nobody can manage the wing wang ding bats here better than you!
Without you here it will be like a bunch of old ladies talking about who's having their next grand baby or what kind of flowers they are planning on planting in the Spring.. or what shade of purple they are dying their hair....OMG... the wide hipped, bouffant blue hairs are going to take over!!!!!!!!!!
Maggie
posted on December 16, 2004 02:12:29 PM new
Libra - Yes...that's the trick....having them explain [or ask] why they think the way they do....never seem to answer those questions. Just want to throw out generalities and false accusations about our positions. And then have the nerve to think they're independent thinkers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Four More Years....YES!!!
posted on December 16, 2004 02:19:29 PM new
crows leaving?? oh damn..now I have no one with an I.Q. of 2 to harass anymore..whats classic to do?????? I will miss you crowfart as I just loved needling your mangy ass and just sit back and wait for the venom to spew out..and it NEVER failed LOL
kraft was right-the difference between you and everyone else in here is that we have a sense of humor-you have NONE.There was a reason you were voted the most hateful poster in here-you are one of the most miserable,hateful,spiteful b*itchs I have ever encountered.Your leaving because your afraid someones going to mess with your auctions??? LOL Dont flatter yourself-
That was just lame ass excuse to leave.No one in here gives a rats ass about your auctions.Tweleve had you on a string,and you being so ignorant, followed right along-I couldnt stop laughing at that post, as Im sure Twelve was. Oh I stand corrected-Kraft did care-she was even going to buy one of your books...until you called her assface-LOL
How does it feel to be such an idiot?? Then you go and call my wife a skagbeast?? You have gotten so low you have to attack my family?-whats up with that? Does it make you feel good to attack my wife when shes not even here to defend herself? So if you want to attack families, I can deduct one thing.Being the dirtbag that you are, your husband must be 300lbs,no teeth,deaf,dumb and blind,because quite frankly I cannot for the life of me can figure out who else would want to hop in the sack with you.Hey sweetie above all else
HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS.....
oh thats right you hate Christmas dont you...why am I not surprised????
posted on December 16, 2004 02:28:50 PM new
Here is an article on what did they mean by the separation of Church and State, which, by the way, isn't mentioned in the constitution.
It won't let me C & P. It is a really long article, but a good one.
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posted on December 16, 2004 02:35:15 PM new
Libra: Because you are the one complaining that gay and lesbians can't get married. That is why.
You are the one that doesnt accept there are people that are different than you. You are the one that wants to believe gay marriages will harm society. So if it is you that is having a problem accepting this, shouldn't it be you that leaves and not me?
Was the country founded on gay and lesbians?
I am sure there were gay people that came over on the Mayflower.
Why don't I like what the country was founded on? Explain that to me.
I will be more than happy to explain to you. This country was founded on the fact that ALL people are EQUAL, all people have the same rights and freedoms. This country is made up of many different cultures and backgrounds. This is what you seem to forget.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- "Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
posted on December 16, 2004 02:46:19 PM new
Maybe I missed something here but, why was crow so touchy about her auctions. What, besides magazines does she sell, Weapons of Mass Destruction??
