posted on August 29, 2000 03:31:14 PM new
Mauimoods:
If you write to [email protected] and forward them a copy of the undeliverable email they will NARU them immediately!
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posted on August 29, 2000 03:44:30 PM new, gave them a chance
To do what? Say "Oh no, I intend to honor my bid, those negs were all made up by nasty sellers"? As if a habitual deadbeat would say "heck no, I'm just bidding for fun".
And malicious bidding is somehow the seller's fault?
Let me clue you in: Bidding, when directed not to, out of some sort of desire for revenge is NOT a good indicator of responsible post-auction conduct. Moreover, had valerie actually allowed this character to end up as high bidder, she then would've lined herself up in said bidder's sights for a wacky neg, which given bidder's conduct to date is a pretty good probability. From her posts to date, it would appear that valerie does NOT have a death wish. It made all the sense in the world to be proactive.
posted on August 29, 2000 04:44:24 PM new
I wrote to SafeHarbor and TimeSensitive this morning about this and have not even heard back yet. I didn't expect to hear back from SafeHarbor so quickly - but usually TimeSensitive responds within an hour and it's been about 8 hours so far.. and still no word!
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posted on August 30, 2000 01:48:49 AM new
Hello Valerie47
I don't know why you started this thread, unless it was to receive approval of your actions from the AW Membership?
I beleive if you are going to rely on feedback to the extent that bids are canceled because of feedback, you should conduct an objective examination of the feedback you received and left on eBay!
That will provide you with an insight of the perception strangers may glean from your feedback.
posted on August 30, 2000 07:53:09 AM newlongfellow:
I started this thread for the same reason ANYONE starts threads on this board. For discussion.
I have a feedback rating of over 3000+ positives and my rating happens to be 0.613% negative. That's an EXTREMELY good rating and I would HOPE that my customers would decide to buy from me based on my feedback rating!
I also leave negative feedbacks for ALL deadbeat bidders. So unless you're a deadbeat who isn't going to pay me, you have nothing to worry about, correct?
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posted on August 30, 2000 08:29:33 AM new
You know, to the person who has reiterated this 2/10 neg buyer's right to bid, and initially claimed that their bids shouldn't have been cancelled-
Give it up, subsequent events have proven Valerie's actions to be not only right, but the best thing she could have done, with the bidder's retaliatory bidding after she asked them to cease. Let's not even talk about her unquestionable right to do what she did to begin with- this bidder is OBVIOUSLY a loose cannon (as many bidders on eBay are), and the "judge and jury" argument is (with all due respect) absurd. This is not a issue of innocent until proven guilty, that's not how commerce, ESPECIALLY E-Commerce, works. That's why banks, car dealers, etc. etc. run credit checks before they give loans. They don't say that the applicant WILL default, they judge what the chances are that they will... There is NO inalienable right to hold sellers hostage to a bid that they think may be trouble or bogus.
posted on August 30, 2000 08:58:07 AM new
Well this one is the typical auction watch thread. A seller does something really really random and then runs to Auction Watch for the ebay loyalist seal of approval. Well Valerie you got your rubberstamp.
10 Feedbacks 2 negatives, not a perfect feedback but sorry RUBBERSTAMP SELLERS not a reason to cancel a bid. I know its my auctions my terms, I can choose who I do business with, and all that other nonsense I have read to justify what I view as seller insanity. valerie47 The problem with that attitude is you created your situation. Look at it this way if you hadn't falsely judged that person you wouldn't even have this issue right now. Is the buyer right for continuing to bid after you went through all of that. No they should search ebay and find a similar auction and bid in that one. But the bottom line is you hurt their feelings with your actions.
You hurt them and now they want to cause you a little hurt. Two wrongs don't make a right but they do make for another interesting thread in the 3000 plus transaction career of valerie47. With a lot of your views valerie47 how you got to 3000 plus tells me all of your customers have got to be the people that share your OPINIONS here on auction watch. No one else in their right mind would place a bid in your auctions. You are a IF EVERYTHING DOESN'T GO MY WAY I WILL NEG YOU AND RUN TO AUCTION WATCH SELLER surprisingly everything has went your way 3000 times. I bet your TOS and EOA reads like a novella.
posted on August 30, 2000 09:07:51 AM new
You know, I'm amused by some of you folks. Since when does a seller not have the right to not sell their item.
Valerie felt the the bidder could be a problem and since she owns what is up for bid, it is her right to cancel all the bids she wants.
posted on August 30, 2000 09:14:30 AM new
Networker:
What a typical comment from you. Every single thread you comment on that I've seen, you call it wanting a "rubber stamp of approval", no matter who the originator is. Have you ever heard of DISCUSSIONS?? This is a MESSAGE BOARD. It's for starting DISCUSSIONS! I did not come to this board for ANYONE'S approval. I make my own decisions! You, on the other hand, seem to only comment on boards to cause problems and to put people down. Why don't you grow up? Geesh!
And regarding my 3000+ transactions, looks like YOU are the one making FALSE judgements! My customers are quite happy with the way I do business, and the items that they receive from me. I have a TON of repeat customers. And no, I've NEVER sold to anyone on these boards. My customers know a reputable person when they see one.
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posted on August 30, 2000 09:35:50 AM new
valerie47 - You missed the point altogether so it appears by your reply. I ain't mad at you I've gotten used to people doing that. The point you missed was you caused the situation yourself. If you really felt that way and wantd to cancel a buyer bids for the reason you cnacelled try this next time.
Feedback comments raise concerns
I just said the same thing you said in your explanation except I didn't launch a direct insult to the buyer. Moving right along add another paragraph to your novella of auction terms referecne your views on a couple of negative feedbacks.
jerryj - No one is denying a seller their rights, I am instead askin that you use those rights in a responsible manner. SO MANY ebay sellers cry my rights, my auction my terms, and don't use those rights with any degree of responsibility. Just because you can doesn't exactly mean you do.
posted on August 30, 2000 09:39:56 AM new
Networker:
YOU seem to be missing the point. I did nothing wrong. I am not abusing my "rights" as a seller. In the 2 1/2+ years I've been sellingg on ebay I've only cancelled MAYBE 5 bids from buyers. I only do that when I feel there most likely will be potential problems with that bidder.
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posted on August 30, 2000 09:47:37 AM new
I just don't get the "falsely judging" comments here. So on top of everything else a seller has to deal with...now they get to add the bidders feelings into it?? Oh yeah.
So I wonder how the email to the bidder was supposed to go....I am fairly sure the bidder wouldn't say. "Yep. I didn't pay for that auction and it was all my fault. Oh and the other neg was all me too" I just can't see it. Of course the bidder is going to put themselves in a good light. So all the seller can go on is their experiences. I think Valerie did what she had to do for her own piece of mind. Nothing wrong with that.
