stopwhining
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posted on June 26, 2003 05:12:55 PM new
may be they are either gulping down viagra,enlarge a certain part of their body,refinance their mortgage,seek out russian brides or buy prescription drug without precription in canada or mexico
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BIGPEEPA
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posted on June 26, 2003 08:01:16 PM new
inot, you are right I did not pay attention to your post, sorry. I also sell antiques and collectibles for about 40 years full time. I also have about 4500 Ebay feedback's. I am not kidding when I say a lot of items selling today on ebay are selling for less than they did 20 years ago. That is not what I call a good market.
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inot
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posted on June 26, 2003 08:32:40 PM new
Hey BIGPEEPA,
That's OK, it's hot here and I am cranky, which is why I reposted it. I'm better now.
40 years is a long time! I'll bet you have some good stories. I've been collecting for about 25 years, since I was a kid. I used to spend my allowance on "junk" as my mom put it. My first store purchase was a pair of lilac and butterscotch bakelite vanity lamps..I still have em! Paid $7.00 for them...which was alot for me then!
I know what you mean about prices being down. I hit my peak collecting approx 15 years ago...stuff was sooooo expensive then. I will not sell any of my own collections now becasue prices are so depressed. But look at all of the inventory there is out here now! 15 years ago, I had to physically scout Antique shows and flea markets. Finding that rare so & so was difficult, and dealers could name their price. Remember when reference price books actually meant something? now they are laughable for the most part. Ebay has changed the way people buy/ sell & collect. I just meant that my sales are good for what I am selling....mostly decorative vintage items ( linens, fabric, pottery, china, garden stuff). I also sell alot of things on consignment. My regular consignors don't care what they get for anything, they are professional "estate buyers" and "pickers". They are happy to get rid of the stuff at a profit without having to do any of the work.
But I do hope sales pick up for you!
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Twelvepole
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posted on June 26, 2003 09:06:48 PM new
This thread belongs in the Round Table... has no place here now that some of you... people are using it for your misinformed soapbox rhetoric...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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kiara
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posted on June 26, 2003 09:17:27 PM new
YEEHAW!! Who are you? Deputy Dog?
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inot
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posted on June 26, 2003 09:29:10 PM new
Twelve, help me out here....I'm trying to get a good visual image of the way you are saying "people", are you: A) clenching your teeth, b) sneering, C) both, or D) just kind of lookin down yer nose?
Kiara! where the heck do you find these pictures????
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toybuyer
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posted on June 26, 2003 09:44:19 PM new
Its hard to believe so few people here really understand the economics of supply and demand. I sell in the antiques and collectibles section and have done so since mid 1997.
It's over! Does noone understand that concept? Rarity is gone! Rarity is what drives up prices (along with condition). Knowledge is power and that knowledge is alot easier to get than it was 10 years ago.
You generally had to wait for a collector book to come out. It will be worse when PDAs with wireless remote access to the internet become so popular that people bring them to the shows and garage sales. (yes, I've seen people with laptops at sales)
Oh, I know there are items still selling for a good penny or two but not with the consistency that we saw up until 2000. Too many sellers; not enough buyers or buyers who haven't completed their specific collection.
Someone will generally have (antique or new) your item in better condition, in a better box, or willing to sell it for less on eBay.
You're dealing with a product or inventory. It isn't any different than if you were selling nails at the hardware store or vegetables at the mom and pop store before the big boys moved in.
I sell generally from mid Oct to mid March.
not toybuyer on ebay
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Salgal48
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posted on June 27, 2003 04:06:42 AM new
This belongs in the Roundtable, and actually the moderator should move it.
Now as to the topic, we're in deflation times -- DEFLATION MEANS FLAT OR LOW PRICES.
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Twelvepole
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posted on June 27, 2003 04:30:49 AM new
YEEHAW! the Lackey finally had an original thought...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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trai
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posted on June 27, 2003 08:44:26 AM new
This belongs in the Roundtable, and actually the moderator should move it.
Says who? You? This is a topic about the current markets so it has every right to be on the outlook.
You are free to post or not to post, but its not up to you to decide if it belongs here or not
YEEHAW! the Lackey finally had an original thought. 
Oh come on, let's get real here bud. Kiara has some great insights in her posts and thinking. She is far from being anybody's lackey as you put it.
Might be time to order out for a pizza, six pack and a hooker and you just might lose some of that stress. Life is good.
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kiara
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posted on June 27, 2003 08:49:40 AM new
Hi inot,
twelvepole says people with the same condescending tone he uses when he refers to us as whiney a$$ b*tches and sneaky little b*tches and lackeys.
Definitely an insecure little man who loathes females and only feels empowered when he puts down others and all done behind the safety of his computer.
This belongs in the Roundtable, and actually the moderator should move it.
Salgal48, I realize you just signed up a week or so ago (in fact you knew zip about selling) so who are you to say where threads belong? FYI, there are no moderators here and for the most part we police ourselves.
[ edited by kiara on Jun 27, 2003 08:51 AM ]
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CBlev65252
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posted on June 27, 2003 08:59:08 AM new
Way to go, Kiara! If you feel the need to be on a board where a moderator interfers with the discussion, why not go there instead? We're all just fine here.
Cheryl
My religion is simple, my religion is kindness.
--Dalai Llama
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Twelvepole
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posted on June 27, 2003 11:18:22 AM new
Trai first off I am not your bud... second, when I tried to get a hooker... your wife told me she had another "john" already...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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trai
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posted on June 27, 2003 11:37:16 AM new
That's a wonderful juvenile response, isn't it? Hit a nerve did we?
That's even low for you, that kind of a statement.
May the bird of paradise sh*t in your shorts.
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Salgal48
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posted on June 27, 2003 12:03:51 PM new
This is such a ridiculously juvenile thread. It started off with a legit question/comment and now every teenager in the group has chimed in.
Guys, take your juvenile stuff to another board. I want to read legit comments.
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NativeAmerican
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posted on June 27, 2003 12:04:22 PM new
I wonder if this is the same twelvepole we all know and love check out this feedback.
http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=twelvepole
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kiara
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posted on June 27, 2003 12:18:39 PM new
Salgal48, I think you are a bit confused.
Most of us are free thinkers and we say what we want to here and we don't take orders from fellow posters that dictate to us.
We write what we want to say, it's called freedom of speech. You don't have to read it.
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tomwiii
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posted on June 27, 2003 01:23:58 PM new
Hee! Hee!
Ya knoe da really wierd thing? When this board WAS moderated, it was 100% MORE nasty than now, UNMODERATED!
Yikes! I fondly remember when sweet ole HCQ would rip off my head & poop down me esophagus after some of my early innocent questions!
Or...Remember the Canadian Bob's? All bow to the mighty MapleLeaf Kings!
Tis a kinder gentler EO the last year! I get a real hoot out of newbie SadGal!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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msincognito
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posted on June 27, 2003 02:21:16 PM new
HCQ. There's a blast from the past. ... yes, that lady was definitely spicy. Never had a quarrel with her myself but I saw her unload both barrels many times.
Speaking for my own auctions, I can guess why sales are down. Can't say for sure.
1) One of the categories I like to list in has been flooded by three or four sellers who spam the search listings (they've been reported, to no avail) and are selling so cheaply, in such volume, that everyone else's stuff gets drowned out. I am not saying that putting up a lot of listings, or selling very cheaply, is inherently wrong. But I've had more than one bidder mention that they've stopped "browsing" and just bookmarked the listing pages of sellers they like. More than one poster here has mentioned that they never browse categories any more for this very reason.
2) Possibly as a result of dealing with these big-volume, low-personality sellers, people are losing some of the confidence they once had about buying on eBay.
3) We're running out of newbies. eBay was based in large part on a growth model; Bidders get hooked, turn into sellers and sell to new bidders who then get hooked. That worked when people were still finding out about eBay, but does that apply to anyone in the country any more? Looking back, I think we'll see this period as the time of the eBay "bubble" when everyone wanted to sell and nobody wanted to buy.
4) The economy is the toilet and people don't know how far down it will go.
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We do not see things as they are. We see them as we are.
------------The Talmud
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quatermass
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posted on June 27, 2003 02:35:21 PM new
My sales are just as good as they always have been. Even actually up about 9 percent. I never will understand why people blame one political party or another. I am no George Bush fan, but the man has nothing to do with the way I do business.
I work my butt off to make my business work, not come to the boards and whine about what a lousy president we have or boo hoo about a lousy business climate it is. You make or break your own business folks. I take full responsibility for my business either being up or down, I don't cop out and blame a president or anyone else.
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msincognito
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posted on June 27, 2003 03:02:05 PM new
If you've got some magical mystery trick to make people buy when they ain't otherwise buyin', be my guest and share it.
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We do not see things as they are. We see them as we are.
------------The Talmud
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stopwhining
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posted on June 27, 2003 03:07:49 PM new
how about appeal to the canadians by offering free shipping and lie on the customs form??
appeal to the japanese with something high quality,cute and small??
what about do what pointy is doing-he used one seller id where he poses as dummy who does not know what anything is worth!!
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toasted36
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posted on June 27, 2003 03:36:09 PM new
Wow ! ROFLMAO I just read this thread and holy cow you guys thats the best laugh I've had in a few day ....looked like a mud slinging contest...ding ding and in this corner ... lol
Now back to the point of the thread I still consider myself a newbie but from what everyone is saying it slows down this time every year .You can either list and hope it sales or take a vacation for a month or 2.I really wouldn't blame the slow down on anyone.My sales are running about the same maybe just alittle slow but not enough to say it's hurting me ,But I sell alot of small things I pick up from yard sales not antiques or new stuff i get from large companys .I get lucky and find something hot about every two weeks (fall in #*!@ and come out smelling like a rose as my brother would say)Which is what keeps me selling.I for one am truely happy to have this board to come and ask questions .I feel I can learn something new everyday here,and would like to say Thank You all for the help you've given me.So put them boxing gloves down and come out kissing !
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Twelvepole
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posted on June 27, 2003 03:39:00 PM new
LOL, what's the matter, not so funny now Trai?
Kiara is a big girl (probably in more ways than one) and takes very good care of herself on the boards anyway...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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kiara
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posted on June 27, 2003 03:56:18 PM new
lol, twelvepole. What's this, now you are stooping to fat jokes?
Actually I have always had a problem putting on weight so now I can hardly wait to get off work so I can have a big strawberry ice cream cone.
Yup, I can take care of myself but it's you that I wonder about. Did you ever see that pic of Trai? LOL
RL business is up and down, just like ebay. In fact right now it's so quiet that's why I'm here. And it does depend what you sell, my last auctions did very well.
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Twelvepole
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posted on June 27, 2003 04:50:17 PM new
Did you ever see that pic of Trai?
No, nor do I care... size does not matter... 
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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kiara
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posted on June 27, 2003 05:06:28 PM new
size does not matter
And I guess that's what you tell your dates? Snicker....
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Twelvepole
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posted on June 27, 2003 05:10:34 PM new
LOL, damn it you weren't supposed to tell anyone...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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dbest
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posted on June 30, 2003 07:50:14 PM new
At first why would any one find politicians at faught for sales down on ebay, but after you think about it they really are to blame. After they get through with pushing an internet tax ebay will hurt tremendously
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