posted on February 13, 2001 07:30:00 PM new
jamesoblivion:
You and I have agreed, disagreed and joked at various times, have we not? Then let me ask you this: If this is a troll thread, then why isn't the "Bush contributes to Aids Epidemic???" a troll? Or how about krs's "Abotions, get 'em while Thier Hot"? Or are they only trolls when a conservitive or Christian viewpoint are offered? I will await your reply before I go to bed.
Rick
In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth.
posted on February 13, 2001 07:32:02 PM newHave you ever heard of a troll post? If not, that means a post that is meant to provoke a reaction.
Provoking a reaction - kinda like calling someone a troll?
I've seen several of Psalms' posts on this board before - and none of them were troll posts. He/she has always been friendly and helpful in his/her posts.
Just because they believe something to be true that you might not - means they are a troll?
If that's the case, over 50% of the normal posters on this board are trolls!
posted on February 13, 2001 07:35:16 PM new
Those were troll threads as well. I think "Bush contributes to Aids Epidemic" was a totally sensationalist thread title. KRS is just being KRS, as always.
posted on February 13, 2001 07:37:24 PM new
Okay, I think I need to distinguish here between a "troll" and a "troll post". Perhaps I'm the only one to make this distinction, but I don't think that posting a "troll post" makes one a "troll". A troll only posts troll posts. I do make that distinction, and if anyone feels that I am calling them a troll, I am not.
posted on February 13, 2001 07:40:19 PM new
Yes, but when someone who professes thier liberalism gets "slammed", "one upped" or whatever, it's like the end of the world. When one of us (by that I mean a conservitive or Christian) gets slammed, it's like an ol' pigpile on them until they leave. In the Bible it does say that as a follower of Christ we shall be persicuted by the world, so my guess is that in here it is just another form of it. Ooops, now "others" will accuse me of whining and say "use ignore" or "pass on by". That will not happen again.
Rick
In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth.
posted on February 13, 2001 07:49:04 PM new
This is an internet bb. You happen to have hit one with a larger percentage of posters that disagree with you. On internet message boards or usenet, opinionated people let their hair down. There are numerous other places on the internet where someone who thinks like me would be chewed up and spit out by a different kind of majority than we seem to have here (they'd try to, anyway ).
Feel free to post here or anywhere, but there's nothing you can do about other people's viewpoints, except to post your own views and not worry about what anyone else thinks. Truth is, we need opposing viewpoints. How would it be if everyone just agrees with the initial post in a thread?
posted on February 13, 2001 07:53:43 PM new
That's true, james, and that is part of the reason I have returned. I guess I am more burned out then I thought. Gotta try to get some real, prayerfully dreamless, zzz's. See you later.
Rick
In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth.
posted on February 13, 2001 07:55:14 PM newjamesoblivion:
Disagreeing with someone is one thing.
Putting them down, calling them names, making fun of them, telling them that their opinions are stupid .... is a completely different issue... and childish, if you ask me.
Sometimes I have a really hard time believing some of these posters are grown adults on this board.
posted on February 13, 2001 08:40:19 PM new"it's like an ol' pigpile on them"
something about he who is without sin cast the first stone comes to mind, yet here we have both ddcliffe and 'executive'girl piling into a thread in which neither has posted until they could perceive a fray to enjoin yapping mightily (as best they can) in attempted persecution of people who've said not a word to them.
Is that what you mean when you say "pigpile", ddcliffe?
posted on February 13, 2001 08:48:53 PM new
"In the Bible it does say that as a follower of Christ we shall be persicuted by the world, so my guess is that in here it is just another form of it."
If the treatment of you and your fellows in this thread constitutes persecution, then by all means thank your God for giving you such a charmed life. Gad zooks.
-gaffan-
[ edited by gaffan on Feb 13, 2001 08:51 PM ]
posted on February 13, 2001 08:53:53 PM newkrs: I remember a thread here a little while ago where everyone was talking about their favorite pets - dogs inparticular. We were all showing pics of our favorite pets and sharing stories. (Thread was *Dog lovers*)
You came out of absolute nowhere and said something like "what a bunch of ugly animals".
I don't believe anyone was particularly speaking to you either, were they? But you still voiced your (useless, mean, rude) opinions anyways, didn't you?
So when you say:
here we have both ddcliffe and 'executive'girl piling into a thread in which neither has posted
I strongly urge you to take your own advice and grow up.
Here's a great case of "what goes around, comes around".
[ edited by ExecutiveGirl on Feb 13, 2001 08:54 PM ]
posted on February 13, 2001 09:00:06 PM new
What I initially posted was an email. I received it this morning. I copied it just as I received it. I apologize for not saying that it was an email.
I have heard these stories on TV many times. People were murdered. I thought I would post the entire message on this post for discussion.
I thought some of you might tell me why you did or did not believe what was posted. I did not think it would come to this.
I am sorry if I have offended anyone. It was not my purpose.
To ddicffe : I can't tell you how much I appreciate your posts. Thank you so very much. God Bless You!
To ExecutiveGirl, Linda_K, xellil, cin131
...Thank you also for your opinions and discussions!!
bobbysoxer: Sadly, we all took part in nailing Jesus to the cross but I have to add He no longer is on the cross. He Lives!
Krs: I have relatives that have Alzheimer's & diabetes disease...all diseases are awful.
I know that God is aware and knows all about each and everyone.
I would not favor a cure that the key ingredient takes place with a murder.
Pocono: I never said I was God. I am sorry if that is what you thought.
HJW:You said "Does God know who's next?" I like what cin131 said esp. this ..."According to my beliefs, God does know who's next. I believe God is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent."
I feel the same way!!
HJW, I hope that answers your question.
I see you posted again......Thank you again ExecutiveGirl and ddicffe: Bless Your hearts!
Goodnight everyone.
Moderator: Would you kindly close this thread?
Thank You.
posted on February 13, 2001 09:05:54 PM newHelen: You say I think your criticism is unfair and unjustified
BUT.... it's ok for YOU to unfairly criticize someone else? You called the original poster ludicrous, irrisponsible, you called her post CRAP, and "a piece of trash".
Perhaps one should look in the mirror.
It's fun to be mean and to criticize others, but you don't like it when it's done in return to you, do you?
posted on February 13, 2001 09:19:49 PM new
psalm139 posted "HJW:You said "Does God know who's next?" I like what cin131 said esp. this ..."According to my beliefs, God does know who's next. I believe God is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent."
I feel the same way!! HJW, I hope that answers your question. "
If God knows who is next -- then praying for someone who is ill won't do any good because the outcome has already been fated.
posted on February 13, 2001 09:25:25 PM new
Zazzie: God does know the outcome. It says in the Bible to pray and ask and have faith. God does know the outcome. We do not.
posted on February 13, 2001 09:30:02 PM new
---that is what I am saying. What are you praying for if God has already decided eons ago that someone will die on a certain day of a certain death?? And if that is the case----how can anyone be guilty of murder if God pre-ordained the murder in the first place??
All those people you listed were suppose to die on the day they died --- it was God's will !! ???????????
posted on February 13, 2001 09:44:54 PM new
Zazzie, that's a paradox. But you're not quite the first to think of it. So a theologian might reply that God does not exist within time. If he's smart, he'd explain how that's possible by saying that time is an attribute of matter, and as God created all matter, God is not expected to exist within his creation. Although this isn't a concept we're really able to understand, if we say that God exists outside of time, we can also say that God can be aware of the past, present and future all at the same time, without having caused any of it. Sort of like how we our awareness or knowledge of past events do not mean that we caused them. On the other hand, a belief that God might intervene in specific events, brought about through prayer, for example, is possible. We can say that God knows what will happen, but the knowledge of events do not cause them. However, in some cases God will directly cause things to happen. This is not predestination then.
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