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 hubda
 
posted on November 29, 2002 12:40:10 AM new
Has anyone dealt with a company called EscrowInternational www.escrowint.com?
escrowint.com is an independent escrow company based in Huntsville, AL according to their website. I cannot find any other information on them through Google and have some concerns that this may be a scam. As I currently have a transaction pending and would really appreciate some help quickly! Thanks!
Dawn Huber

 
 thchaser200
 
posted on November 29, 2002 04:58:14 AM new
Here is some information that I found on this web site

Registrant:
Escrow International (SBABUGRCUD)
1024 Meridian Street
HUNTSVILLE, AL 35801
US

Domain Name: ESCROWINT.COM

Administrative Contact:
Escrow International (MUXMWPBQGO) [email protected]
Escrow International
1024 Meridian Street
HUNTSVILLE, AL 35801
US
(205) 533-7684
Technical Contact:
ValueWeb (HOS237-ORG) [email protected]
ValueWeb
3250 West Commercial Blvd. #200
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33309
US
954-334-8000 fax: 954-334-8001

Record expires on 13-Nov-2003.
Record created on 13-Nov-2002.
Database last updated on 29-Nov-2002 07:55:51 EST.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.VALUEWEB.NET 216.219.253.211
NS2.VALUEWEB.NET 216.219.254.10

There is a phone number and an AOL address. Be careful on this. It looks like the web site was just created on 11/13/02

 
 hubda
 
posted on November 29, 2002 05:18:07 AM new
Thank you so much for your prompt response. Your concerns jive with mine unfortunately. That is too recent for my comfort level. Plus am I reading this right that it was last updated this morning at 7:55am? Would that be their website or their website registration information?

Interesting that I cannot update my profile on this site, the change password doesn't work and I received no email notification that payment by the buyer was made. I only found out by periodically checking the website. I tried to access their live chat only to meet with a dead end.

I just checked that phone number and it was a Verizon cell phone number that is no longer a working number. Sounds fishy to me too. Any suggestions on how I should proceed from here? Maybe we could bust them before they do any more damage. Thanks for your time and your help - it is greatly appreciated


 
 stopwhining
 
posted on November 29, 2002 05:44:16 AM new
author said,
Sounds fishy to me too. Any suggestions on how I should proceed from here? Maybe we could bust them before they do any more damage. Thanks for your time and your help - it is greatly appreciated
///////////////////
how do you know they are fake,could be a land outfit which just go cyber/


 
 thchaser200
 
posted on November 29, 2002 06:54:56 AM new
We really do not know if they have done anything wrong yet. It maybe just the growing pains of starting up, or as stopwhining stated they maybe just going from brick and mortor to cyber.

I just tried the phone number and got the information that it was not a working number. I have sent a e-mail to the aol e-mail address and who knows if I will get an answer or not.

How did you find out about this site and this service

 
 hubda
 
posted on November 29, 2002 07:20:48 AM new
The way I found out about it is actually what got me started wondering to begin with. A Nancy Dayton contacted me regarding an item I had listed on Ebay. She indicated she was from Austria and wanted to purchase a laptop computer. But then she insisted on using this escrow service. When I requested she complete the transaction commitment through Ebay she said she could not as her user id had been stolen and she did not have access to it. However the original request came from a user id 2akcpups which is apparently not hers as that user is still active and is not her. Her second email came from an email address of [email protected] but her response request and all subsequent emails have been from [email protected]. Now she wants it shipped to someone entirely different (supposedly her) named Mihajlovic Spiridon. Throughout she insisted she could only use this escrow service which I then had problems with their website and service as mentioned in my previous post, and now this information you have provided. I don't know that anyone has done anything wrong but I would sure hate to trust an escrow service that turns out not to be. Especially when I'm not sure I can trust the buyer. Thus my dilema.

 
 stopwhining
 
posted on November 29, 2002 07:29:20 AM new
it does not sound good,i would just take 2 aspirins and go to bed.
did you notice all the telltales sign,austria,eastern eurpean name,stolen id ,and escrow etc.
do you have good feedback,ask her to refer to your sterling feedback?/

 
 thchaser200
 
posted on November 29, 2002 07:51:59 AM new
Now, this is really beginning to stink, the only way I would complete this deal is if she wires you the money.

This site does not accept credit cards, only e-gold and western union. If it is ok, can you e-mail me copies of e-mails that you have received, but if you could, please include the header information. I may be able to track from where these e-mails are coming from. The e-mail address is [email protected].

 
 hubda
 
posted on November 29, 2002 07:54:26 AM new
Sounds like a good idea to me especially since I have been up all night and it is now 11am the next day. Yes, those very telltale signs are the things making me leery of this whole situation. Actually I have extensive positive feedback with Ebay, and have even earned their power seller recognition so I'm not going to worry about that part of it. I just hate to turn down good money if in fact it is that but sure don't want to get burned either. Thanks for your feedback and input, I'll let you know what her response is to my question of how long she has been dealing with this escrow company, should be interesting!

 
 stopwhining
 
posted on November 29, 2002 08:23:49 AM new
e gold ugh??


 
 hubda
 
posted on November 29, 2002 08:38:03 AM new
Yeah, right......... wonder who has that pot of gold?????

 
 uaru
 
posted on November 30, 2002 08:49:37 PM new
I wouldn't touch that site with a 10 foot pole. An escrow site that accepts only e-gold and Western Union Wires? <sniff, sniff>... smells really bad from here.

You might want to read up on this article. Fake escrow sites lure auction users

 
 thchaser200
 
posted on December 1, 2002 10:36:43 AM new
The weird part about this seems to be that they are now changing schemes. Before it was a seller that is trying to get the money, now they are bidding using a possible fake site. I guess they get the product when payment was never sent and then the Escrow site disappears in about a month.

This needs to be shut down

 
 stopwhining
 
posted on December 1, 2002 11:11:07 AM new
GOOD WAY to get free merchandise.on yahoo shopping,they use stolen cc and want the items shipped second day air.

 
 trai
 
posted on December 2, 2002 08:48:14 AM new
said she could not as her user id had been stolen and she did not have access to it. However the original request came from a user id 2akcpups which is apparently not hers as that user is still active and is not her. Her second email came from an email address of [email protected] but her response request and all subsequent emails have been from [email protected]. Now she wants it shipped to someone entirely different (supposedly her) named Mihajlovic Spiridon.

Run,do not walk from this deal! They can wire the money to you.
There is no way I would go along with this! The alarm bells are ringing loud and clear.

 
 thchaser200
 
posted on December 4, 2002 05:41:31 PM new
It looks like the web site is down and all e-mail is bouncing back

 
 kmonica
 
posted on December 7, 2002 10:18:16 AM new
ESCROWINT.COM - NANCY DAYTON SCAM!!!


Hi all, I read your messages, this is a scam and I just lost $1600 on my laptop. Nancy Dayton wanted to buy my laptop, ensisted on escrowint service, and the site does not exist anymore, so is my computer gone and my money which I have never gotten for the transaction. Please see my e-mails below with so called NANCY DAYTON:

Anyone involved in this scam you may contact me directly at [email protected]. I signed up here only for being able to to post this message.
Below is the message from the so called cousin of Nancy Dayton: After this E-mail, I have enver been able to access escrowint.com nor hear from "NANCY DAYTON" or her cousin. What do we do at point? I 've never been involved in the scam. Thanks! Kate.

---------------------------------------------------------
Hello There!

My name is Biroveskovic Vidoje. Mr. Spiridon is my
cousin, and now he is in hospital because was a victim
of a car accident last night. Now, he fight between
life and death.

He told me to tell you that to change the shipping
info with my address. I stay also in Wien.

My shipping details are:

NAME: BIROVESKOVIC VIDOJE

ADDRESS: STR. BLUMENGASSE ,7/3

CITY: WIEN

ZIPCODE: 1170

COUNTRY: AUSTRIA

PHONE: +436646520520

Now, you must call the courier and told him the
delivery the package to my address.

I am very sorry for the inconvenience.

Waiting for your reply!

Thank you!
---------------------------------------------------------------




 
 kmonica
 
posted on December 7, 2002 10:27:50 AM new
ESCROWINT.COM - NANCY DAYTON SCAM!!!


Hi all, I read your messages, this is a scam and I just lost $1600 on my laptop. Nancy Dayton wanted to buy my laptop, ensisted on escrowint service, and the site does not exist anymore, so is my computer gone and my money which I have never gotten for the transaction. Please see my e-mails below with so called NANCY DAYTON:

Anyone involved in this scam you may contact me directly at [email protected]. I signed up here only for being able to to post this message.
Below is the message from the so called cousin of Nancy Dayton: After this E-mail, I have enver been able to access escrowint.com nor hear from "NANCY DAYTON" or her cousin. What do we do at point? I 've never been involved in the scam. Thanks! Kate.

---------------------------------------------------------
Hello There!

My name is Biroveskovic Vidoje. Mr. Spiridon is my
cousin, and now he is in hospital because was a victim
of a car accident last night. Now, he fight between
life and death.

He told me to tell you that to change the shipping
info with my address. I stay also in Wien.

My shipping details are:

NAME: BIROVESKOVIC VIDOJE

ADDRESS: STR. BLUMENGASSE ,7/3

CITY: WIEN

ZIPCODE: 1170

COUNTRY: AUSTRIA

PHONE: +436646520520

Now, you must call the courier and told him the
delivery the package to my address.

I am very sorry for the inconvenience.

Waiting for your reply!

Thank you!
---------------------------------------------------------------


 
 colchoneta
 
posted on December 15, 2002 10:36:10 AM new
HOW TO FIGHT BACK TO FRAUD AND SCAM:
FROM NOW ON ONLY USE TRADITIONAL METHODS OF PAYMENT. IF THEY CANNOT DO IT THAT MEANS THEY DO NOT HAVE OR WANT THE MONEY OR THE PRODUCT.
WARNING-VELAESCROW.COM is the sister scamer perpretretor.(For those of you that had bitten into this scam if you have never been in hell, that it's how it feels)
For $4.95 You can file a "COMPLAINRT" with
The better bussiness bureau (free separatedly), federal trade commission(free separatedly), Your states attorney general's office, US Office of consumer affairs.
at:
http://www.consumerprotectionagency.us/
file with ftc.gov
ifccfbi.gov
econsumer.gov
fraud.gov
police report(ask police to refer you to your local Secret Service "hightech crime" investigator)
go to your bank or credit card request a money trace.ASAP
LAWYER
call or write e-gold : [email protected] Phone: 4800-909-6590
cOMPLAIN TO THE COMPANY WHERE THE E-MAILS COME FROM YAHOO, HOTMAIL WATEVER..
to find out where you e-mails came from:
CLICK ON THE E-MAIL that came from the perpetretor THEN: click on file/properties/detais, you will see a block of information: copy and save this info and submit it with each complain you file and give the info to every one, if you do not have the emails, even if you have been blooked, send an e-mail to perpetretor when you get the mailer-demon back print and save the information on the IP adress where it came from is in there: looks like this (65.54.254.140)give this info to the investigators. it may not mean much to you but it does to them.
File a complaint everywhere you can or they let you, this two are the most recent scams although they may have been operating under other names before. IT'S TIME TO TAKE COLECTIVE ACTION!!! THE MORE COMPLAINTS, AND THE MORE PEOPLE, THE MORE ACTION!!!
pilar
[email protected]
305-532-0242




 
 colchoneta
 
posted on December 15, 2002 10:36:11 AM new
HOW TO FIGHT BACK TO FRAUD AND SCAM:
FROM NOW ON ONLY USE TRADITIONAL METHODS OF PAYMENT. IF THEY CANNOT DO IT THAT MEANS THEY DO NOT HAVE OR WANT THE MONEY OR THE PRODUCT.
WARNING-VELAESCROW.COM is the sister scamer perpretretor.(For those of you that had bitten into this scam if you have never been in hell, that it's how it feels)
For $4.95 You can file a "COMPLAINRT" with
The better bussiness bureau (free separatedly), federal trade commission(free separatedly), Your states attorney general's office, US Office of consumer affairs.
at:
http://www.consumerprotectionagency.us/
file with ftc.gov
ifccfbi.gov
econsumer.gov
fraud.gov
police report(ask police to refer you to your local Secret Service "hightech crime" investigator)
go to your bank or credit card request a money trace.ASAP
LAWYER
call or write e-gold : [email protected] Phone: 4800-909-6590
cOMPLAIN TO THE COMPANY WHERE THE E-MAILS COME FROM YAHOO, HOTMAIL WATEVER..
to find out where you e-mails came from:
CLICK ON THE E-MAIL that came from the perpetretor THEN: click on file/properties/detais, you will see a block of information: copy and save this info and submit it with each complain you file and give the info to every one, if you do not have the emails, even if you have been blooked, send an e-mail to perpetretor when you get the mailer-demon back print and save the information on the IP adress where it came from is in there: looks like this (65.54.254.140)give this info to the investigators. it may not mean much to you but it does to them.
File a complaint everywhere you can or they let you, this two are the most recent scams although they may have been operating under other names before. IT'S TIME TO TAKE COLECTIVE ACTION!!! THE MORE COMPLAINTS, AND THE MORE PEOPLE, THE MORE ACTION!!!
pilar
[email protected]
305-532-0242




 
 colchoneta
 
posted on December 15, 2002 10:37:32 AM new
Do not forget to report to the auction site where you have been perpetrated, look under services.

 
 hubda
 
posted on December 15, 2002 05:38:24 PM new
Thanks so much to everyone for their input and suggestions. Ebay doesn't really have a place for a complaint like this because the perpetrator tried to complete the deal outside the Ebay structure. Plus the original user it supposedly came from is not them and is still active. I will post something on their Community Board though.

To Kate who got burned, I was involved with this scam but fortunately found about it before I was able to ship. I have since been contacted by others who want to "buy and ship right away" that are scams also but they all have one thing in common. They all want something shipped to some international address, do not want to pay by PayPal Instant funds or Bidpay.com and they are always in a hurry. Let me know if there is anything further I can do to help.

Thanks!
Dawn Huber
[email protected]

 
 
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