posted on August 31, 2000 06:38:45 AM new
Anybody else get this? Spammer using EVERY trick he has ever been told works to avoid getting caught, except avoiding spamming. Forged DNS records, chain of relays, etc. But I'm reporting his spamming butt to every ISP on the list AND Ebay too! SPAM SUCKS!
[email protected] should be the first complaint.
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Headers:
Return Path: <[email protected]>
Recieved: from crawford.siteprotect.com (crawford.siteprotect.com [64.26.0.113]) by jasper.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA05332 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 20:53:37 -0700
Recieved: (from ezfreespace@localhost)by crawford.siteprotect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03198for [email protected]; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 22:53:37 -0500
Message ID: <[email protected]>
REPLY TO: [email protected] (eBay Seller)
XUIDL: d05958697c07cc952bb5758cd002ab04
X-Mailer: Phoenix Mail 0.92.08 Standard Edition
"Dear eBay Member,
Hi - My name is Mark and I've been selling on eBay for almost 2 years. "
(mucho spam deleted) ...
MAKE THE FIRST STEP TOWARDS STARTING YOUR SUCCESSFUL CAREER ONLINE! CLICK
ON THE LINK BELOW NOW!
Verio, Inc. (NET-VRIO-131-103)
8005 South Chester Street
Englewood, CO 80112
US
*************
Official name: www.ezfreespace.com
Addresses: 131.103.239.223
(this is on VERIO.NET ... complaints to [email protected] with note that it might be deliberate concealment of the domain name.)
Possible forgery - www.ezfreespace.com is claiming to be 131.103.239.223,
but 131.103.239.223 isn't a valid address for www.ezfreespace.com
Redirecting to TUCOWS.COM, INC.
Registrant:
EZ FreeSpace.com
2355 Hwy 360 N #331
Grand Prairie, TX 75050
US
posted on August 31, 2000 12:00:20 PM new
Sure, I got it. But it's just easier & more time effective for me to just delete it (like the 50 other spams I get each day!) No big deal!
Don't get your panties in such a twist! You are not your brother's keeper & this is not causing anyone serious harm! In following this board, it seems you are frequently involved in reporting things to authorities. Just relax, take a deep breath, & get on with your own life.
Sandy AKA: chev1959
posted on August 31, 2000 12:16:27 PM new
Did someone here mention panties? Personally, I loved being spammed,the more the better. I love pressing my delete key. But of course, I don't delete the kinky spam.
posted on August 31, 2000 12:21:13 PM new
And I suppose when you get a piece of bulk mail in your mailbox you grab your shotgun and go storming into the postmaster's office and scream bloody murder at him for ten minutes....
posted on August 31, 2000 12:42:40 PM new
I find all this I turned in the Spammer and burned him royally rhetoric to be quite distasteful, even disruptive if you will.
Good comments in this thread arte:
Don't get your panties in such a twist! You are not your brother's keeper & this is not causing anyone serious harm! In following this board, it seems you are frequently involved in reporting things to authorities
Right you are. It's either spam, or missionary book offenders. You've been reading the same board as I have. And you DID mention panties.
And I suppose when you get a piece of bulk mail in your mailbox you grab your shotgun and go storming into the postmaster's office and scream bloody murder at him for ten minutes....
Good one!
OK, so some folks see it as their American duty to report others. I say NO WAY! Report the reporters!
posted on August 31, 2000 02:42:58 PM new
chev1959 -
Please do the math. There are 15 million eBay users ... if ONE PERCENT of them decided to spam you just once with ads for their auctions and website businesses, that would be 150,000 email ads you have to take care of (just from eBay users). That's 400+ emails a day to "just hit delete" if this becomes acceptable practice. Do you have the time it takes to scan 400+ emails a day looking for the ones you really want to read.
I would rather get the scum-sucking parasitical spammer's account deleted than just delete the email.
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capotasto and CheyenneRoundup -
USPS-delivered junk mail costs me nothing. It costs the sender $.50-5 for every piece they send out. I have a new appreciation for junk snail mail since getting 50-150+ spamvertisements A DAY on my personal account (before ISP installed filtering).
Spam costs the recipient more than the sender, in recuorces used. Spam is the equivalent of non-refusable postage due junk mail, non-refusable collect telemarketing, or those damned junk faxes that use up your paper and tie up your phone line ... cost-shifted advertising.
posted on August 31, 2000 02:49:34 PM new
Junk mail is handy-we shred it for packing. The only bad thing is sometimes the envelope is too thick to go through the shredder, and we have to actually open the envelope!
I am looking for a similar use for spam email and will let you know when I figure one out.
posted on August 31, 2000 02:51:07 PM new
More of the same old rhetoric.
Do you feel more important, as if you were serving your fellow man, on a mission as it were?
There are far more nobel things than fighting spammers by turning them in.
You're screaming that the sky is falling, with all your "math". Just because you say it is so, doesn't make it so. And I say it isn't so. So what?
Are there any recorded deaths due to spam? None that I know of. Why don't you put your energy into fighting a REAL cause? Why don't you go do some REAL missionary work, if you admire the early missionaries so much?
How about you go work with the homeless in your community? Or AIDS victims? Or battered women? Or victims of violent crimes.
posted on August 31, 2000 03:28:23 PM new
Yeah, Abacaxi, how can you be so heartless? Don’t you realize that every spam e-mail you delete sends a miniscule portion of some budding telemarketer’s free enterprise dreams into the bit bucket? Every spam e-mail deleted retards someone’s American dream get rich quick aspirations by multiple nanoseconds!
I am seriously considering starting a homeless shelter for unwanted spam. A place that will protect this persecuted digital minority. I hope to have acres of disk space so that they can roam freely in their native habitats. Occasionally, if we can get some donated bandwidth, we will let them out on field trips to various routers and multiplexers.
Since spam has become a pejorative term I will be asking for the posters to these forums to help me in developing a new name for these unfortunate e-mails. I want a name that will allow them to regain a shred of their dignity, one that will allow them to hold their bits up high again.
Please help these unfortunate victims of the internet age. They didn’t ask to be born and we shouldn’t shun them. Grant them a little compassion and donate your used 12Gb or larger harddisk drives to this cause.
posted on August 31, 2000 03:32:46 PM new
All these years WASTED on finding out for myself what I feel is important! All I had to do was have Mr. CheyenneRoundup TELL me what is important to me!
posted on August 31, 2000 04:32:06 PM new
CheyenneRoundup -
"Why don't you put your energy into fighting a REAL cause? Why don't you go do some REAL missionary work, if you admire the early missionaries so much?"
I'm researching early missionaries for a book on how they adapted, or didn't, to the foreign cultures they were in. I never said I admired them, and I'm not even Christian.
"How about you go work with the homeless in your community? Or AIDS victims? Or battered women? Or victims of violent crimes."
I do ... all that AND fight spam in my spare time.
posted on August 31, 2000 04:54:44 PM new
A teeny-tiny question popped up when I read that post by Cheyenne Roundup: If all that stuff is so important, what is he/she doing spending his/her time here instead of spending it on oh-so-much-more "valuable" pursuits?
Doctor B: I consider SPAM to be S**t Posing As Mail so you're right, it probably does need a new name, something less negative. SPAM would also need a PR campaign but that's another issue entirely. I have a modest suggestion for a new name: SPEWAGE.
