connorscorner
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posted on November 7, 2001 07:44:46 AM new
I recieved this email today from OTWA rejecting me.
We're sorry, but your application for membership with this site was declined:
: Your registration email address must be your primary ISP or a domain that is registered in your name. Please re-register per the instructions on the form. Thanks.
I guess I don't understand exactly what they are asking for. I only have one email address, I responded to their email confirmation. It's not a free email account.
Can someone clue me in.
When your at the end of your rope:
Tie a knot and hang on!
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enchanted
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posted on November 7, 2001 08:07:30 AM new
I think you'd have to email them and ask them.
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dschulma
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posted on November 7, 2001 08:09:42 AM new
I'm thinking it might be that you can't use a free email account, i.e., hotmail.com, yahoo.com, home.com, etc. You might have to register with an actual "pay for" ISP. Just a thought...
David.
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connorscorner
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posted on November 7, 2001 08:11:38 AM new
I have emailed them and I do pay for my email account.
When your at the end of your rope:
Tie a knot and hang on!
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wowwow85
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posted on November 7, 2001 08:16:29 AM new
no big loss,this is a better board -better content.
over there they are talking about mother cat having miscarriage.
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RB
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posted on November 7, 2001 09:15:08 AM new
I registered there with a hotmail account, made one post, and haven't been back since. It's a very "cliquey" site and if you don't know the players, they will make you feel like an outsider.
Best to stay here 
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wowwow85
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posted on November 7, 2001 09:17:04 AM new
there is also very little substance over there
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arttsupplies
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posted on November 7, 2001 10:27:23 AM new
...and I do pay for my email account
<[email protected]>
If you're using this email address...Is altavista your isp?
Do you connect by dialing altavista?
They might want the address to the isp that gives you access to the net.
[ edited by arttsupplies on Nov 7, 2001 10:28 AM ]
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YourDesigns
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posted on November 7, 2001 10:59:44 AM new
I used hotmail also over there and was "approved" by their Gods.
I then really started reading the boards, and saw they talk about navel fuzz, armpit hair, and toenail clippings. Stuff I have to deal with, but really don't want to talk about.
Needless to say, I haven't posted a single time over there.
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arttsupplies
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posted on November 7, 2001 11:14:22 AM new
they used to accept yahoo hotmail etc. because that is what I used for arttsupplies over there at the beginning of this year. I guess they've changed it since.
Do I sense a feud starting?
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blairwitch
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posted on November 7, 2001 01:16:01 PM new
I was a lurker here for along time, and the best thing was AW using a CC for verification. This board is full of friendly people. Best auction board on the net.
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wowwow85
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posted on November 7, 2001 02:44:00 PM new
they are talking about a stray cat which comes and start giving birth on someone's bed and had miscarriage,lactating and cleaning up .
everything you want to know to sell in cyberspace
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sandvet
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posted on November 7, 2001 03:21:42 PM new
WOW! I am so pleased to find this thread!
I registered over there at OTWA (different username) and posted a question about checkout. The very first response, from a user with thousands of posts, asked me to please post my question in eBay's checkout forum! What?
I totally agree that most OTWA threads lack substance!
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dman3
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posted on November 7, 2001 03:37:09 PM new
Wow this is a neat thread, its sort of like gosip about the gosip .
Surely there must be better things to talk about here then what is talk about on another message board !!!
You need to use the Email address provided by your internet provider to register with OTWA now I guess they must have changed there Rules on this in the past weeks or months.
Just a note of interest I have for the past 3 years been posting on many boards, I find each has its own personality so to speak, AW as well has its way and when the dust settles in the weeks to come I'm sure things will find there norm here again.
How ever I don't feel that putting down another web site or its community on that site will be of much help getting there..
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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wowwow85
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posted on November 7, 2001 04:15:19 PM new
dman3,you obviously do not gossip much (it should be spelled gossip,not gosip).
anyway may be we are acting out of sour grapes as we do not share the enthusiasm -stray cat popped into your bed and started giving birth,thru the ordeal,there were miscarriage,lactating and death and washing and changing sheets and other members gave advice.
in the middle east,when nomadic woman gave birth in tent,women circled her and did the bellydancing to help her ease the pain and smooth the delivery process,i think we can top them by talking about that.
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yeager
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posted on November 7, 2001 04:16:40 PM new
I have been registered on that board (under a different name) for about 2 years now and have made a whopping 21 replys. I agree that the content of that board is lacking real direction. They talk about any and everything. It's basically a social board. A place to hang out electronically.
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dman3
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posted on November 7, 2001 04:30:48 PM new
and your here at AW talking about this on the Ebay board because ????
wowwow85
Your Right I don't gossip much for sure there is little to no profit in it and adds little to life in genral.
I really don't believe anyone is actting out of sour grape as you say, But in all honesty if you didn't start a thread no rule or law says you have to read it in fact I don't think there is a rule that says you have to read a thread you start yourself
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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sandvet
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posted on November 7, 2001 04:50:19 PM new
Sour grapes, sour grapes, right here!
I posted an eBay related question over there and was pretty much asked to post it ELSEWHERE!
and your here at AW talking about this on the Ebay board because ????
for the exact same reason you are!
AND in your own words... "no rule or law says you have to read it"!
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wowwow85
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posted on November 7, 2001 05:17:47 PM new
may be they received more money than aw folks-andale got 65 millions and aw got only 35 millions.
both sound like big whopping number to me,where and how are they spent??
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mrspock
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posted on November 7, 2001 05:22:29 PM new
I was over there for a week , broke down and came back here and registerd my cc.
OTWA wasnt new to me I had been there of and on and to the honesty board before it.
The problem there is they have no roundtable so all kinds of off topic stuff is posted in the ebay board.
BTW David, home.com is not a free email it is used by @ home cable service
spock here......
Live long and Prosper
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dman3
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posted on November 7, 2001 05:28:30 PM new
That money goes pretty quick When your paying more then a hand full of people programers and all.
As well as buying the latest and fastest computers for your services, pluss the cost of internet access line the costs for the bandwidth sites like these take up can cost enough over afew years to make every family in a small third world country live like middle class america.
its my guess that websites like ebay spend that 64 million in a few months just advertiseing forget the technical side of the website and paying for staff.
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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YourDesigns
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posted on November 7, 2001 05:35:38 PM new
I don't think either place is profitable?
Is Andale or AW in the red or the black at this point? I thought they were all living on borrowed money and borrowed time.
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dman3
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posted on November 7, 2001 06:20:45 PM new
Well there is a good chance there not profitable, for most they are makeing money.
There finances work like goverment spending though $10 to bring in $1 ..
mainly because there is little to no regulations on priceing, internet services privders usually end up paying far more for what it takes to run there business then they can ask there users to pay inless your in the shoes of ebay or AOL where you have 20 million or more users helping footing the bill so you end up haveing something left in the end..
The Ebay has another advantage as well they don't host our auction picture or anything They host the text of listings only.
Text uses far less banwidth then hoting pictures They get there seller to pay listing fees and fvf and pay for a webserver and bandwidth to host there own pictures or they have companies like andale and AW that pay the freight for the bandwidth and hits on there servers saves them a bundle
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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wowwow85
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posted on November 7, 2001 06:33:31 PM new
we can pretty much assume aw is in the red else they wont be laying off people and leaving this board unmanned or unwomanned.
math just does not add up-large capital spending like you said servers and programming costs and then collect nickel and dime from individual.
there is one place called collector on line which is still receiving venture capitalist fund,rare these days.
the whole idea of coattailling person to person auctions by providing service to individual sellers is a silly business idea,many of us sellers sell from our living room and hold full time job somewhere else,we could all stop selling at a moment;s notice.
last nite i looked at some ebay dealers to see what they have for auction,to my surprise many do not have anything currently listed with ebay??
there was this gemstone dealer who has over 7000 feedback,he has nothing for auction but he does have a shop with 5000 items,i guess thats a lot cheaper.
the whole business model is just ridiculous,during the IPO mania,they dont care if this is sound business model and the venture backers dont care either.
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wowwow85
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posted on November 7, 2001 06:41:12 PM new
it used to be that ebay does not host auction pictures,but now with IPIX,they could be hosting our pictures??
but ebay does have big expenses just patrolling and complying with law enforcement and providing customer service to its members.they all get stock options .
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YourDesigns
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posted on November 7, 2001 07:32:33 PM new
So I guess it is just a matter of time that these sites collapse. I am amazed at how quickly these companies can go through millions of dollars, that isn't even their money. It is either VC money, or investors money (through IPO or otherwise).
Whatever happened to go old common business sense and apply it to a brave new world such as the internet?
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dman3
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posted on November 7, 2001 07:56:13 PM new
Actually if you look at things like the markets are at this time, everything has pretty much been shaken out, The companies that are left are pretty much the lucky ones and things are about to get better soon.
Wasn't it Greenspan way back early last years who warned investors about the way they were investing in the IPO without concidering if it was makeing a profit.
I think he also said you should be applying good old business sense to the internet market and investment or when the slow down comes it will be big..
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
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wowwow85
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posted on November 7, 2001 08:16:41 PM new
i often wonder how did they run thru millions ?
may be i am just a small time operator,figure they rent office in silicon valley offering their landlord stock options,recruits programmer and the rest of the office staff,lease furniture and equipments and advertise and all the programmers go to work and voila you have a system in cyberspace.
advertise like crazy and make it free or worse like payapl give away 5 and 10.
programmers are expensive but what about the other golfers? they cannot all be making over 100,000 a year.
i heard some were leasing aircraft to go here and there,that costs a lot -politicians can tell you that.
free meals and parties every weekend??
most of these outfits dont have more than 100-150 people?
i know ebay at one time uses a lot of contract programmers and this can get expensive.
what kind of finance person do they have,i bet no one is minding the finance side of the businesss,CFO takes a long time to train.
i bet they just have an accounting dept and the president just let the staff go to the accounting dept and fill out an expense report.
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yeager
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posted on November 7, 2001 09:03:21 PM new
dman3,
My comment about OTWA was only an opinion and not a fact. That's what many of the posts and replies on THIS board are. It's quite interesting that we are finding out very early after the discontinuance of the Moderation Staff who has self appointed themselves as the AW Police Department.
The duties for this position seem to include enforcement of the this person's superior position and way of thinking over others.
Hopefully, people on this board will use a certain amount of self control when responding to another’s OPINION!
A general rule of thumb when relating to other people, whether on this board or in real life is simple. You can't control anyone's behavior, you can only control how you respond to it!
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YourDesigns
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posted on November 7, 2001 10:16:25 PM new
Well, SHOOT, Yeager that means I can't stick my tongue out at you.
DARN patootin!
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