petpost
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posted on January 14, 2002 01:21:23 PM new
A Japanese friend of mine bid on but lost on an auction of a rare baseball card. The seller offered to sell him an identical card which they agreed on a price of $1800. My friend has the seller's name, address and since he paid by check, he has the cancelled check in hand. However, after two months, my friend has not received his card and the seller won't respond to any EMAILs. I can help on his behalf, but what's the next step? Going through eBay won't help because it wasn't an auction item. How would I file a claim/lawsuit/mail fraud against the seller? We're both on the West Coast.
JF
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rarriffle
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posted on January 14, 2002 01:50:19 PM new
you should call the police department in the sellers city and ask for the detective in charge of fraud. explain the details to this person and they can advise you on how to proceed.
in the small town where i live, a mother and her two sons were arrested for this very thing. they had sold $25,000.00 worth of non-existent sports cards and beanie babies.
the mother was given jail time and must make full restitution to the buyers. the sons were minors and were disciplined as juveniles.
your friend could also sue in small claims court in the sellers city.
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sulyn1950
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posted on January 14, 2002 02:00:56 PM new
Is your frien in Japan?
Reason I ask, I am not sure what the USPS does on taking fraud complaints for International mail, but it's my understanding you can file a fraud complaint with USPS since this person transacted a deal that would require mailing.
I have never done it, but have heard it suggested here before.
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dman3
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posted on January 14, 2002 02:02:30 PM new
Wouldn't be worth a trip from Japan to go through small claims for this the travel would cost more then the settlement.
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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petpost
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posted on January 14, 2002 02:07:20 PM new
Yep, my buddy is in Japan. I'm going to do whatever I can on his behalf.
I'll call the LAPD and ask for the fraud department, but LA is a big place...
I'm doing a mailing today so I'll ask at the PO about filing a claim through them.
We just want to get this guy's attention.
JF
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dman3
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posted on January 14, 2002 02:10:06 PM new
Seem to me you would get there attention a whole lot faster by pulling there info on ebay and getting there phone number and calling ...
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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petpost
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posted on January 14, 2002 02:13:37 PM new
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The last auction this loser posted was back in August. I've tried pulling his contact info, but it requires an item number but all his past auctions have expired. Know another way, I'm all ears.
JF
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quickdraw29
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posted on January 14, 2002 02:16:22 PM new
Go through the Postal Police first, they can trace the guys address to see if he still lives in the same spot or skipped town.
Second, look up the guys phone number on ebay and give him a call.
Third, try contacting the other buyer and see what happened with him. The more people complaining about a seller means quicker action by the authorities. Also, you can hook up with other buyers and hire a good private eye since this is a high dollar amount.
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petpost
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posted on January 14, 2002 02:48:29 PM new
A number of you are questioning why I haven't pulled the seller's info....Well, as far as I can see, you need an item number to do so. There isn't one and his past auctions are so dated, they're no longer in the eBay system. Do you know of a way to pull his info--specifically his phone number--withOUT an item number?
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lowprofile
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posted on January 14, 2002 03:44:45 PM new
Whats his name and address...I can find him for you withing 24hrs I will post it here..
What was his ebay id?
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petpost
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posted on January 14, 2002 03:49:31 PM new
>>>lowprofile
Instead of making everything public, just contact me directly at [email protected]
JF
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Libra63
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posted on January 14, 2002 06:16:40 PM new
You say he has the name and address of the person, try looking on the internet under 411. That could be a start.
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Libra63
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posted on January 14, 2002 06:16:40 PM new
You say he has the name and address of the person, try looking on the internet under 411. That could be a start.
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DMRick
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posted on January 15, 2002 06:43:27 AM new
Put his addy in here, and if he isn't unlisted, you should come up with a phone number
http://www.anywho.com/
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stopwhining
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posted on January 15, 2002 07:35:27 AM new
wow,that guy could have closed shop and skip town,wonder how many buyers are looking for him?
ebay can give you contact info if you have his name,you can ask a powerseller to approach ebay,it sounds like someone has already volunteer.
did he pay with credit card>>or intl money order??
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dadofstickboy
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posted on January 15, 2002 11:09:14 PM new
petpost:
This is a thought,should work. If you know his Ebay ID go to one of his auctions put in a minimum bid. This would should make you eligable to access his personal Info. After you get the info you could always retract the bid. Just a thought!
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