fluffythewondercat
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posted on September 3, 2002 12:11:35 PM new
Just got the latest in a series of pleas from deadbeats who were suspended for non-payment. Usually I just blow them off (we really want deadbeats back?!?) but howsabout a $10 fee for reinstatement.
Do you charge a fee? Would you?
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sanmar
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posted on September 3, 2002 12:50:47 PM new
Why would you want to reinstate a deadbeat???
I have been very lucky only 2 NPB's in 4+ yrs. I feel that these types are going to do it again, if they let back in. Maybe not to you, but somebody else the next time. Sounds like greed to me.
[ edited by sanmar on Sep 3, 2002 10:42 PM ]
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RB
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posted on September 3, 2002 12:58:30 PM new
Who would get the dough ... you or eBay? If the plan is to line your own pockets with this, call it a "late fee" or something like that. Only eBay can reinstate a deadbeat and I don't think it's worth $10.00 to be reinstated!
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robertsmithson
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posted on September 3, 2002 03:46:50 PM new
ebay would reinstate the deadbeat only if one of the three sellers that filed a final fvf NPB on the deadbeat changed their NPB form to a 'problem worked out between seller and buyer' response.
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alldings
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posted on September 3, 2002 03:48:01 PM new
They are DEADBEATS! If the didn't send the auction payment what makes you think they will pay the reinstatement fee?
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pelorus
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posted on September 3, 2002 05:13:23 PM new
fluffy -- It sounds OK if you also get them to pay up on their original auction. Otherwise, it sounds extortionish. Sorry, but that's my reaction.
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NearTheSea
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posted on September 3, 2002 05:50:47 PM new
Do you charge a fee?
No
Would you?
Never
Yeah that certainly smacks of extortion to me. I don't think its up to the sellers, if ebay wants to do something like that, thats their deal, they are the ones that make the decision to reinstate people. And I doubt they would ever charge them either.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on September 3, 2002 06:07:45 PM new
This deadbeat wrote to me:
"I have a serious request that I need from you. I am willing to do anything. eBay has suspended my account. I understand I did not pay you for this auction:"
(auction details omitted; it closed a year ago)
It was the I am willing to do anything part that got me thinking about a reinstatement fee.
Surely I am entitled to SOMETHING if I rescind the FVF refund on that auction, since I'm going to be charged the FVF again.
The question is, what?
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on September 3, 2002 06:09:29 PM new
NearTheSea: And yet eBay (through SquareTrade) is perfectly happy to charge you $15 or $20 to have a neg removed.
I wouldn't be so sure they won't start charging for other things, too...
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RB
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posted on September 3, 2002 06:30:00 PM new
Charge whatever you want, then take what you actually get, add $1.50 and you'll have just enough to buy a cup of coffee at Starbuck's.
I can't believe someone would actually sell their ability to remove a NPB warning! You meet all kinds of people on the Wonderful World of eBay 
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celindra
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posted on September 4, 2002 07:47:09 PM new
I like the idea. Get whatever you can from the person.
It's all about about the $$$ anyway.
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celindra
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posted on September 4, 2002 07:57:41 PM new
Dear God, my previous post made me envision this nightmare scenario:
Let's say you are a bigtime seller who accepts PayPal. A large amount of money is stored in your PayPal account.
A bidder wins three of your auctions.
He sends the 3 payments via PayPal.
7 days later, he files 3 seperate merchandise disputes, claiming non-receipt of goods.
PayPal locks your account after receiving the complaints. So, you have no access to your large amount of money.
You receive an e-mail from the buyer. He will cancel his complaints if you give him $$$.
Even if the buyer was caught, you'd be without that money for a while.
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rgrem
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posted on September 5, 2002 06:38:55 AM new
What a great opportunity! Take their 10 bucks and then stiff 'em.
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RB
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posted on September 5, 2002 06:44:20 AM new
In the real world, this would be called "extortion".
In eBay's world, this would be called "fee avoidance".
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twinsoft
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posted on September 5, 2002 08:52:48 AM new
I wouldn't call it extortion. But I wouldn't help a deadbeat get back on eBay. Not after they burned three or four sellers.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on September 5, 2002 10:56:52 AM new
Nah, I won't either. But when someone says I will do anything, it makes you think, eh?
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RB
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posted on September 5, 2002 11:17:25 AM new
Nah, I won't either. But when someone says I will do anything, it makes you think, eh?
Nope, not me, and probably not most reasonable people. Sure got your juices flowing for awhile though didn't it? You were already to spend the money
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kennycam
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posted on September 5, 2002 11:27:35 AM new
I have gotten 4 of these request within the past month from deadbeat bidders that were barred from eBay. We just ignore them, most of these are well over a year old. They ignored my emails requesting payment, so I will just ignore theirs.
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quickdraw29
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posted on September 5, 2002 07:37:57 PM new
I've had two buyers say they didn't want the item but would pay my fees if I didn't file a FVF refund. I took it.
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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tomwiii
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posted on September 6, 2002 03:37:36 AM new
WHY does that NOT surprise moi?? 
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quickdraw29
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posted on September 6, 2002 07:48:07 AM new
There's one word for someone who doesn't take the cost of fees that are offered from a deadbeat, IDIOT. Does that describe you tomwii? Sounds like it does.
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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tomwiii
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posted on September 6, 2002 10:23:55 AM new
Nah!nah!nah! booga!booga!booga!
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on September 6, 2002 10:32:37 AM new
Just as long as you don't post pictures of your boogas here. Eeeeuwww.
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kiara
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posted on September 6, 2002 11:26:51 AM new
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pelorus
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posted on September 6, 2002 12:34:08 PM new
No, Celindra, it's not all about the $$$. It's too bad you and quickdraw feel that way.
And quickdraw is wrong. I am not entitled to his opinion, and I wish he would stop giving it.
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quickdraw29
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posted on September 6, 2002 02:55:44 PM new
pelorus, please enlighten us further with your intellect. It's not about the money? Maybe you're in business for charity, I don't know. To me it's about getting my costs back one way or another. I'm not in the charity business like you, and if it helps keep an honest buyer on ebay, all the better.
And yes you are entitled to my opinion, you don't have to read it if you don't want, but that is your choice, not something you are forced to do.
If you decide to waste our time further without adding to the conversation I would hope you just leave AW.
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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