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 JACKSWEBB1
 
posted on June 10, 2003 09:54:57 PM new
E BAY, WE KNOW YOU READ THIS BOARD FROM TIME TO TIME. YOU GAVE US THE ZIP CODE AND THEN CHANGED IT TO AFTER THE FACT. WHOOOOOPIE! WE WANTED IT TO "SEE" WHERE THE BIDDER IS DURING THE BIDDING PROCESS TO "KILL" A NON READER BEFORE THEY BECAME THE "WINNER". WHEN IT IS SPELLED OUT FIFTEEN WAYS,,,WILL NOT SHIP!!!!! NO SHIPPING!! JUST TO END UP WITH A "NON" READER FROM 3000 MILES AWAY! THE WORLD HAS SHRUNK THANKS TO E BAY,,,,,,WHERE IT SAYS ON THE SCORE CARD,,,,COUNTRY,,,,,SO SILLY TO READ,,,,,UNITED STATES,,,,,WE WANNA SEE PODUNK, THE CITY!!!!! AND A ZIP CODE.

WHAT'S MORE,,,,,,ONCE A BIDDER IS UNHAPPY WITH A TRANSACTION,,,,,,THEY GET NASTY,,,,THEY SIGN UP UNDER ANOTHER E BAY NAME AND BID ON YOUR STUFF WITH THE VERY INTENTION OF NEGGING THE SELLER.....FOR WHATEVER REASONS......PODUNK!!!!!! WHAT!!!!! BELLS RING!!!!!!

AND THE BEAT GOES ON,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 
 kiara
 
posted on June 10, 2003 10:59:53 PM new
Perhaps not enough sellers list regionally to make this a big enough concern for ebay to do it? I'm not sure why ebay changed it again but maybe someone else remembers.

 
 JACKSWEBB1
 
posted on June 11, 2003 08:43:41 AM new
FLASH!!! ALSO WANT TO SEE THE DATE OF BIRTH (AT LEAST THE YEAR, 93.)OF THE BUYER I AM "TRYING" TO DEAL WITH. AND IF I AM DEALING WITH A MALE OR FEMALE. NEVER HAPPEN, I KNOW BUT! I CAN DREAM. ON THE I.D. CARD RIGHT NEXT TO THE ZIP CODE AND CITY.

CAN'T ADD TWO NUMBERS IN A PRE DETERMINED SHIPPING RATE? HOW MUCH IS THE TOTAL? DUH?

AND!!! GRADE LEVEL OF EDUCATION. 6TH GRADE?

AND THE BEAT GOES ON,,,,,,,,,,,
[ edited by JACKSWEBB1 on Jun 11, 2003 08:45 AM ]
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on June 11, 2003 12:50:36 PM new
6TH GRADE OR LESS IS SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN THINKING WHEN I READ THESE POSTS...


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 pmelcher
 
posted on June 11, 2003 02:05:31 PM new
You are right, at one time we could see zip codes in the bidding history before the auction ended. I state clearly that I do not ship out of the U.S.A. However, they can't read, or think "you can't mean little ole me" and go ahead and bid. When I could see the zip codes I could reject the bid and explain why, now I have to figure out if I'm going to be nice and schlep to the Post Office twice for the sale or take a neg. Believe me, it depends on the day!

 
 CBlev65252
 
posted on June 11, 2003 02:12:38 PM new
Hi, Jack, Cheryl here. Good to meet you - you are a legend on these boards.

Anyway, I agree with you. I'd like to know the state/zip of the people bidding on my auctions. Sometimes I need that information to figure out shipping costs. It would be handy to not have to wait three days for the winner to contact me with that information. Or, to have them compute the costs themselves and get it all wrong!

Birth year? That would be great, too. The last person I want to deal with is a child or a teenager. I have one of each at home and that's enough.


Cheryl
My religion is simple, my religion is kindness.
--Dalai Llama
 
 sapington
 
posted on June 11, 2003 02:12:39 PM new
pmelcher,

It still show the country like it always did (at least as long as I can remember).
Just click the feedback and it says United States or whatever country they registered at. Zip codes there don't make any difference for that problem.
 
 capotasto
 
posted on June 11, 2003 03:26:36 PM new
"Zip codes there don't make any difference for that problem."

It does if you use UPS ground. It doesn't go to Alaska and Hawaii.

 
 pmelcher
 
posted on June 11, 2003 03:42:17 PM new
As Homer would say, Doh! I forgot about checking the feedback. Thanks for the reminder!

 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on June 11, 2003 05:47:30 PM new
THIS COMING FROM THE SAME PEOPLE WHO POST IN ROUNDTABLE ABOUT OUR GOVERNMENT....

EXACTLY HOW MUCH PRIVACY IS PERSON SUPPOSED TO GIVE UP TO BUY ON EBAY?




AIN'T LIFE GRAND... [ edited by Twelvepole on Jun 11, 2003 08:35 PM ]
 
 fetish128
 
posted on June 11, 2003 07:12:26 PM new
Real sellers, Understand, Real problems. Trolls, have No idea What Real sellers face on a daily basis. City, Zip, Age, Schooling are VERY important aspects as to the profile of the person you are dealing with.( E bay gives them a profile opportunity in the feed back, True? Yes! and all that is AFTER,,,,,,, the fact.) E bay requests the same exact information to become a trading MEMBER. THEY KNOW, Why Not the members who either Sells or Buys. Wanna buy my Rolex,,,,,I'm 15 years old and a whatever School drop out. I also live far from you,,,,but right now you have NO idea HOW far. Reversa, you won't know either till the auctions OVER. THEN,,,,,,,too late.! You real sellers get the point of my statements.








SSSSSSSnap! Crackle and Pop!
 
 capotasto
 
posted on June 11, 2003 08:04:29 PM new
Might be worse than you think...

I just got an EOA notice from ebay, they used to include the zip, THIS ONE only said SHIP TO LOCATION: USA !!

Huh? How can I tell him the postage if I don't know his zip????????

I have to email and ask him, he has to email and tell, I have to email and give total, he has to pay.....

WTF is this??

Vinnie

 
 fetish128
 
posted on June 11, 2003 08:14:52 PM new
12,,,,,,,Go troll somewhere else. We Real Sellers, have REAL situations which YOU have NO idea about. Thanks. You just came here to belittle,,,,,,You dropped your pile, all heard it and smelled it, end of subject....Now, on with business at hand....


SSSSSSSnap! Crackle and Pop!
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on June 11, 2003 08:34:11 PM new
FETISH WHEN YOU BECOME A REAL SELLER LET ME KNOW OK?

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY I HAVE TO LISTEN TO.

REAL SELLERS WOULDN'T BE HERE DISCUSSING TAKING AWAY A PERSONS PRIVACY JUST BECAUSE IT IS AN INCONVIENCE TO THEM, I BELIEVE THIS IS THE SAME THING THAT PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT DELTA DOING....

GO FIGURE


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 kiara
 
posted on June 11, 2003 08:37:22 PM new
Please explain to me how it's taking away a bidder's privacy if the seller can see his zip code. Aren't you required to give it to the seller anyways in order to receive your goods if you win?

Or do you only bid to mess with people's auctions? What am I missing here?

 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on June 11, 2003 08:39:47 PM new
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH JUST THE ZIP CODE, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER SUGGESTIONS ARE GOING TOO FAR... NOT EVEN FUNNY IN JEST.


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 ohmslucy
 
posted on June 11, 2003 08:43:07 PM new
Hi All,

HEY JACK - GLAD YOU'RE BACK!!!

Now the high bidder's zip code sometimes shows at the top of the ended auction. I haven't figured out why but with some bidders it only shows in the bid history.

I, too, wish we could see the zip DURING the auction.

Anybody have ideas why eBay changed this?

Lucy
 
 auctionace
 
posted on June 11, 2003 08:44:30 PM new
I get a few very paranoid buyers. Several buyers have refused to give their address in an email and they say they will provide it with their snail mail payment.
I wish a city/state location was mandatory for sellers to post in the location boxes instead of horse pucky like God's Country! or We have best deals!.


[ edited by auctionace on Jun 11, 2003 08:44 PM ]
 
 kiara
 
posted on June 11, 2003 09:04:36 PM new
auctionace, I have had a few buyers like that and then they write their name and address in chicken scratch on their envelope.

twelvepole, how soon your brain switches on privacy! Weren't you recently whining that we should give up personal info as we should all be licensed to sell on ebay?

Anyways, I do think that all the bidder zip codes should be accessible to sellers while the auction is running. I'm hoping that if someone knows the reason why ebay stopped doing this that they will post here.



 
 sapington
 
posted on June 11, 2003 09:28:49 PM new
"Zip codes there don't make any difference for that problem."

It does if you use UPS ground. It doesn't go to Alaska and Hawaii.

You didn't say anything about UPS in the earlier post. Alaska and Hawaii are not a different country.
I wasn't saying the zip codes should or should not be shown, I was just pointing out that it wouldn't help on bidders from outside the US.
I don't know where you get the time to check on every bidder anyway.
That is another reason not to use UPS, Fedex ground delivers to everywhere in the US not just the 48 states. (takes 4 days from Wisconsin to Alaska)
 
 fluffythewondercat
 
posted on June 11, 2003 09:41:40 PM new
I probably disagree with most of you here.

I would like eBay to use the zip code of the prospective to verify whether or not s/he is eligible to bid on an auction. I brought this up some months ago and I don't recall anyone having any major objections to it. If you're in the U.S., you have a zip code, and you can bid on U.S.-only auctions.

I would rather the zip *not* be displayed publicly. In and of itself it's probably innocuous, but for an information-gatherer it could help to validate some partial information he already has.

Here's an example.

A friend of mine collects memorabilia from a certain profession. He is very well known in that field and has had to deal with "copycats" following his bidding. So he frequently discards his userids to throw them off.

However, a zip code would help his pursuers figure out that bidder-a, bidder-b and bidder-c are all the same guy. I will never again agree with tinypole on anything, but it is an invasion of privacy. I suspect that enough people complained to eBay about this and that is why it changed.


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 ohmslucy
 
posted on June 11, 2003 09:45:07 PM new
The zip was only visible to the seller involved in the transaction. It was never public.

Lucy
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on June 12, 2003 05:06:37 AM new
WHAT DOES SELLER PRIVACY HAVE TO DO WITH BIDDER PRIVACY? SELLERS "TAKE" MONEY, DAMN RIGHT THEY SHOULD HAVE LESS PRIVACY....

PEOPLE ARE LEERY ABOUT EBAY SELLERS AS IT IS, WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO HAVE MORE OF THEIR INFORMATION GIVEN TO A SELLER....

ALL YOU NEED IS AN NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU DON'T SHIP UNTIL YOU ARE PAID DO YOU?


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 fluffythewondercat
 
posted on June 12, 2003 07:38:26 AM new
[ edited by fluffythewondercat on Jun 12, 2003 07:42 AM ]
 
 beatnikera
 
posted on June 12, 2003 09:07:27 AM new
I live in a very large city and used
to post my City and Zip Code on eBay.

I no longer supply this information due to the fact that some of my past auction winners
made the assumption (without ever contacting me) if they could just come over and pay me
at my home residence instead of mailing-in or submitting an online payment.

Case in point: One Saturday in 1999 (out of the blue) I get this loud, insistent knock
on my apartment door and sure enough it was this total stranger who had bid and won. He told me that since he lived "nearby" he *thought* he could just drive over and pay me. He never told me in any emails what his name was or that he wanted to meet with me. In fact, he never even replied to my winning bidder notice that I sent to him. He happened to read my EOA notice with my name and address listed and just figured he could "come by" without contacting me first.

After that incident, I now have a PO Box for my selling activities and state in my EOA notices "No in-person pick-ups."


 
 ohmslucy
 
posted on June 12, 2003 10:27:03 AM new
HEY JACK!

HI!

You really did accomplish something all (or most) sellers wanted. It took a long time and had to have been a lot of work.

I'm sorry eBay didn't leave it the way it was. It was so nice seeing the zip in the bid history.

VERY helpful to me and I wanted to let you know I appreciate what you did.

Lucy

In case some of you weren't around or didn't have time to read all the threads, here's a list...

http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&thread=477682

http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&thread=478693

http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&thread=479106

http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&thread=479655

http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&thread=479674

http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&thread=479937

http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&thread=471088



 
 neonmania
 
posted on June 12, 2003 11:09:30 AM new
::I'm 15 years old and a whatever School drop out. I also live far from you,,,,but right now you have NO idea HOW far. Reversa, you won't know either till the auctions OVER. THEN,,,,,,,too late.!::

What does education level have to do with jack today? There are people with masters degrees flipping burgers at McDonalds and an 18 year old high school student with a 90 million dollar Nike contract. I know three people off hand that never went beyond 10th grade that are each making over 100k a year. I never went beyond highschool and yet I built a company from nothing to over 1 million a year in sales before I tired of it and left.

This is why it is none of anyones damn business how old I am, how much money I make, what my education level, sex or zip code is upon bidding. Judge me on my track history, not your uninformed personally biased opinion of my worthiness based on irrelelvent information.

[ edited by neonmania on Jun 12, 2003 11:27 AM ]
 
 jackswebb1
 
posted on June 12, 2003 12:28:58 PM new
,,,,,, Thanks Lucy.

I RITE WHIF A KRAYON. I AM 5 YEARS OLD.

 
 
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