tsunamii
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posted on November 3, 2003 10:17:41 PM new
Looks like the buyer is taking their turn on listing those beanies from the Drunken Sailor auction. I don't know how to do a link so for those that are interested it is auction #3153709387.
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wgm
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posted on November 3, 2003 10:31:08 PM new
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3153709387
Interesting how she is selling them under a different identify than the one she used to buy them...but has no qualms of letting you know in the description...
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
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kiara
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posted on November 3, 2003 10:59:39 PM new
Why doesn't she show the ones with the big F on them? It would be more believable to me if I could see the defaced ones.
High bidder is also listed on traderlist.com.
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Japerton
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posted on November 3, 2003 11:05:30 PM new
Gosh! Another landfill shot!
Most helpful.
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Every day you meet quite a few,
So you see it's all up to you.
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peiklk
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posted on November 4, 2003 05:20:48 AM new
$26 to ship???
About the one thing I know about beanies is that they are NOT heavy. I cannot imagine how 26 beanies would cost $26 to ship -- unless she ships each one separately.
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reamond
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posted on November 4, 2003 07:39:51 AM new
This whole thing is starting to smell of collusion between sailor and bee.
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NearTheSea
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posted on November 4, 2003 11:45:28 AM new
Can someone please tell me if there is really an F on the butt tags of these 'counterfeit' ones she claims?
and since she is reselling these, then she must have dropped that FBI Claim she had the case number to on that badtraderslist, or whatever it was.
I don't know reamond... ya think.... maybe this IS the ex wife or something, and they are continuing their 'spat' on EBAY? LOL! 
who knows these days......
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gousainc-07
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posted on November 4, 2003 11:51:40 AM new
What I read was she was keeping the Beanies that had the F on them.
She replaced the F Beanies with miniatures of the same Beanie.
She must be keeping the high dollar fakes as evidence.
[ edited by gousainc on Nov 4, 2003 06:10 PM ]
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NearTheSea
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posted on November 4, 2003 11:57:47 AM new
interesting, yes she has 100% pos. fd, but if you look at the feedback she has left, she screamed FAKE, BUT that she was keeping the beanie on a couple of fbs I saw... didn't go through them all.
I would think if this was an FBI case, they would need all the original stuffed things that were sent to her... instead she is auctioning them off, and not very long after winning, getting them, and filing her complaint.
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gousainc-07
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posted on November 4, 2003 12:04:47 PM new
If it is for real, I think this is her way of venting.
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gousainc-07
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posted on November 4, 2003 04:40:49 PM new
I think the reason it is selling under a different Ebay ID, is he blocked her main ID, taisha, so she had to use a different ID to bid on them.
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mcjane
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posted on November 4, 2003 06:04:59 PM new
thedrunkensailor is a liar & a thief, his auction was a scam. People who collect Beanie Babies (he stated his wife had 1000) know the value of the older ones & have them authenticated to get the highest price. If they were genuine they would never be listed as they were in his auction.
Read this:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/printedition/search/sfl-ralph02nov02,0,5896349.story
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on November 4, 2003 06:28:15 PM new
Despite being a liar and a thief (spelled correctly) - he's a savvy marketer. Cost him less than a buck to get the hundreds of thousands of hits to his auction, interviews and notoriety, etc.
If he's smart about it, he'll capitalize a bit further and make more than his $1000 or so on the auction and subsequent certificate listing...
Actually, if the winner of those Beanies had a bit of marketing smarts, she'd do something like chop those things up and auction off "pieces" of the prized loot -- using thedrunkensailor's acclaim and articles to pump up the interest. That way, you can get a few hundred people to pay (maybe) $9.99 for a piece of eBay auction history -- along with the appropriate certificate of authenticity saying they were actually from the notorious sailor's original auction that everyone is writing about... She probably could have made back her investment -- or even more...
But that's just me thinking how to make lemonade out of the sour fruit (or something like that)....
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peiklk
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posted on November 4, 2003 07:09:05 PM new
>>If they were genuine they would never be listed as they were in his auction.
Sure they would -- based on the text of his auction, it's perfectly believable.
Had the woman thought there was a problem, she should never have bid so high. The buyer got what the seller offered. End of discussion.
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Libra63
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posted on November 4, 2003 07:22:01 PM new
Big Scam...
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mcjane
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posted on November 4, 2003 07:52:51 PM new
peiklk
What I was trying to point out is if they were authentic & athenticated he would have gotten a lot more money then he did. He would have shouted that out in his auction rather then pretend he didn't know what he had. He knew exactly what he had or should I say, he didn't have.
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gousainc-07
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posted on November 4, 2003 08:25:02 PM new
How much do you think they will sell for?
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mcjane
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posted on November 4, 2003 10:06:09 PM new
If you mean the rare Beanies, authenticated they would bring about 3000.00
This is the rarest & most valuable of all. It was supposed to made in light blue & the first batch was made in royal blue before the error was caught & the color corrected.
There are very few authentic ones & thousands of counterfeits.
A few years ago it sold for over 5000.00.
Crazy, but true.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3152188783&category=1639
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peiklk
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posted on November 4, 2003 10:37:33 PM new
mcjane...
I didn't realize you were psychic.
You have no idea what he knew or didn't know. You can suppose all you want, but don't speak as facts when you have no idea.
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NearTheSea
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posted on November 4, 2003 10:57:03 PM new
mcjane
but from the article you posted:
His real name is Steve (he asked that his last name not be used because he worries he'll be harassed by critics). Steve, 32, and wife Mary, 28, found the box of beanies when they packed to move from Coral Springs to Margate. They had picked them up over the years and really didn't know their worth. Steve said they would have been happy to get the $10.
The story was just Steve goofing around.
"I made the story amusing for myself, more than anything else," he said over the phone.
It has struck a cord. His site has gotten well over half a million hits. He's gotten e-mails from Japan and Australia. More than 100 from England.
"Most just got a real kick out of the site," Steve said. "Most people were just tickled about how honest I was."
I don't think it was a scam. I see these goofy auctions all the time.
The buyer, then put him on a bad traders list. it said there she filed an FBI claim,yet now she is auctioning off the beanies? But not the 'Counterfeit Valuable Ones'? That is just really odd to me.
Why didn't she do a charge back? She's already given him a negative. What happened to the FBI and Postal Fraud? Can't be done now, now that she is having a little auction party herself.
She got what she paid for.
sorry, I know that people take these Beanies very seriously, thats fine, but this one, I don't think he did anything wrong, some people just don't know what these things could be worth.
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horsey88
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posted on November 4, 2003 11:00:25 PM new
Obviously folks don't pay attention to the subtitles.
TROPHY BEANIES FOR THE TRUE HUMOR AFICIONADO
"TRUE HUMOR AFICIONADO" as in Big JOKE
Just looking for some publicity
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Japerton
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posted on November 4, 2003 11:02:03 PM new
Museum Quality and Beanie Babie in the same auction.
Time for the human race to turn off the television set!
J
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All the monkeys aren't in the zoo,
Every day you meet quite a few,
So you see it's all up to you.
You can be better than you are,
You could be swingin' on a star
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mcjane
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posted on November 5, 2003 12:34:16 AM new
NearTheSea
He knows enough about Beanies to know some are very valuable & that's why I can't buy his story. If it were truthful he would have checked out what he had before listing them. His entire auction was a lie so how could I believe anything he says after the fact. He is selling counterfeits & he knows it. The last thing he will ever do is own up to it.
He was caught & when confronted on the phone he simply made up more lies. He has no remorse about stealing a buyers money or making a fool out of his wife even though I have no doubt she is in on it too.
Now,lets say he was telling the truth & later found out some of the Beanies were counterfeit. Wouldn't the right thing to do would be to apologise to the buyer & refund her money instead of acting like it was a big joke. We are not talking about a few dollars, we are talking about hundreds & his glib attitude makes me sick. Putting a disclaimer in an auction should not give a seller a right to keep money he doesn't deserve.
This guy, I'm afraid, is nothing but a con artist & a very clever one too.
It will be interesting to see if the buyer can recover her money & it looks like she is going to take this as far as she can.
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neglus
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posted on November 5, 2003 03:37:36 AM new
McJane - I have to take exception here...my daughters each have about 200 beanie babies. They got them as "treats" when we made mall trips etc and we know diddly squat about them. Someone told them to keep the tags on, so they did, but that is about the extent of the care taken to preserve them.
When malls used to have Beanie Baby displays, we used to look and say.."Wow your "tusk" is worth $100 Lizzie do you want to sell it?" "no" was always the answer.One time my youngest daughter was persuaded to part with a white seal (i think) for $100. We used to say you'd better sell now or they won't be worth a thing...and then the malls stopped having the Beanie Baby kiosks and my girls entered high school and the Beanies were packed away in boxes. I threatened to send them to the Goodwill but both hubby and kids objected. I had no idea that some still had any value at all.
I guess my point is, if I were to put them up for auction on eBay, I would do about the same thing as the Drunken Sailor! I am fairly certain none are counterfeit (all were bought at TY shops) and all the "teenies" came from McDonalds directly (I will never forget eating all those Happy Meals ).
I will never know because my packrat husband begat packrat children..they want to save them for "their children!
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lovepotions
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posted on November 5, 2003 06:28:14 AM new
If beanies are so F***ing valueable why don't they COME WITH THE DAMNED TAG PROTECTORS?
Why is there an entire industry of tag sellers?
If so many were intentionally made to be rare or collectible why are they sold in loose piles on shelves.
Why do they not come in cylinder tubes or some sort of box.
Why do the psycho collector/sellers not bag or box them and instead keep them in crates and large boxes again loose not individually protected.
I understand the value of many modern collectibles but I still just don't get the beanie phenominae.
When cabbage patch dolls first came out they all had birth certificates and fancy, durable packaging. Even todays collectible barbie's have gotten quite sophisticated. GI Joe's and Star Wars stuff were always packaged in a way they could stand the test of time to a collector.
Why aren't beanies?
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horsey88
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posted on November 5, 2003 08:24:00 AM new
If beanies are so vauable why are they stuffed with pellets from recycled soda bottles.
[ edited by horsey88 on Nov 5, 2003 08:25 AM ]
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wendywins
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posted on November 5, 2003 09:34:49 AM new
In her 'FBI Complaint' she said that she did eventually bid with her buying ID because she didn't want to take the chance of these being authentic and letting them get away. This says to me that she knew they were most likely not real but she decided to gamble just in case.
I feel no sympathy for her or anyone else who bid. After all, he started the bidding at $10.00--not even smart enough to save himself the $0.24 but starting at $9.99. He also had shipping and optional insurance listed at $35 which looks like he was only hoping to make money on that end.
Just the fact that she bid (using a different ID) after he left her questions unanswered AND hasn't filed a chargeback speaks volumes of the bidder.
Now she is trying to sell the worthless ones and is keeping the "phoneys". Why isn't she parading the fakes like she is these commons?
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