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 flowerj1
 
posted on February 15, 2004 11:37:09 AM new
I'm using a good Sony Mavica digital camera, but the jpeg images look like crap once I get them uploaded to Vendio. Is jpeg the only format I can use? I always get this message after I save to a jpeg file: "Saving to a lossey file may cause changes to image data. These changes will not be shown in the image until you reopen it". Hence the crappy looking image once it's on Vendio and eBay.

I've noticed almost everybody's pictures in their auctions at eBay are bad...blurry, dark, etc.

Any ideas how to get better pictures? Is the jpeg file extension our only choice?

Thanks for your feedback.

 
 amber
 
posted on February 15, 2004 11:45:56 AM new
I don't know if this will help, but I use Adobe and do a lot of editing of my pictures, changing exposure, colors, hues, and sharpness, also removing grainyness, and I find that really helps. I am sure there are far more knowlegeable people on this board however. I get a lot of compliments on my pictures, so I think they come out pretty well, (as long as I don't try and list them through eBay).

 
 CBlev65252
 
posted on February 15, 2004 11:46:08 AM new
I can't help you with your problem because I don't have your type of camera. But, I don't know how much help you'll get if you say almost everyone's pictures look bad. Wwhy do you say almost everyone's pictures on eBay look bad? I've seen some great pictures. Personally, I don't think mine are bad at all.

Someone here should be able to help you.

Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
 
 tomwiii
 
posted on February 15, 2004 11:54:34 AM new
I agree, Cheryl -- although I think I would agree with him if he qualified to say: "Most feeBay hosted pics look like Ralphie-excretia!"

Methinks feeBay compresses da hell out of them tooooo greatly, rendering their pics virtually worthless!

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PLUS -- here are some nice newbie tutorials for playing with yer pics:

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 kiara
 
posted on February 15, 2004 11:57:35 AM new
Because JPG is a lossey format, each time you open and then save a JPG, you lose more information. What you are doing is making a copy of a copy. Do this enough times and the image quality of the scan starts to deteriorate.

http://home.att.net/~cthames/SavingPF.htm

Q. Cropping and Saving a JPEG
When I crop a jpeg image and then save. I get a warning saying something
about saving as a lossey file. Could you explain exactly what is a lossey
file and how can I avoid it.
- TRWAAA


A. The "lossey" warning refers to the fact that a JPEG file is compressed to
some degree or another. It has nothing to do with whether you crop or not.
However, when you save an image as a JPEG (as opposed to saving it as a TIFF
or PICT file, for example), all the computer information is "squeezed" down
so that it will transmit via email or the Web faster. This process of
compressing and uncompressing the image will - to one degree or another -
cause the image quality to suffer. The more you compress a JPEG, the faster
it will transmit (much to the joy of the friends you email it to) but it
will also show more of these little image quality defects, called artifacts.

Most of the time, all you have to do is save a JPEG somewhere closer to the
"high-quality/low-compression" end of the spectrum in order to avoid these
artifacts. In fact, most people don't even notice them unless they are
really prevalent.
- BetterPhoto

http://www.betterphoto.com/snapshots/_000515.asp


 
 sparkz
 
posted on February 15, 2004 12:36:42 PM new
Are you on AOL? If so, by default your images will be compressed for faster loading. You have to go into your preferences and manually set it to not compress images.


The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
 
 trkirk
 
posted on February 15, 2004 12:50:00 PM new
Go to your menu bar on your camera and to the file tab on the toolbar. click up and you can set the quality to Standard or Fine. Click up again and you can set the image size. 1216 x 912, 1024 x 768, or 640 x 480. Try changing to different settings and see if it makes a difference in your photo quality. It will a some difference in you uploading time but that is for you to decide if the change is worth it. Good Luck,

Tom

 
 mommoo
 
posted on February 15, 2004 12:56:37 PM new
Sparkz

This is interesting subject. I just went to my AOL Preferences and under Graphics Preferences it says Max. disc space to use for online art is set at 40. Should that be changed?

I have noticed that afer I load my images they don't look nearly as good as they looked on the floppy.

I just assumed I wasn't very good with the camera. I have a Sony FD-100.

Also could someone tell me how to get clear close-up pictures with this camera? I used to have an FD-73 and didn't have this problem.

 
 dadofstickboy
 
posted on February 15, 2004 01:07:30 PM new
Does it have a Macro setting?
If it does use it for closeups.

 
 Fenix03
 
posted on February 15, 2004 01:26:16 PM new
The answer to your original question is that only two formats of files can be seen thru an internet browswer. .gif & .jpg - the problem is that .gifs generally do not look as good as .jpgs which is why jpgs have become the standard.

The only way to retain as much as image quality as possible to save the image at the highest quality level possible,
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
 
 sparkz
 
posted on February 15, 2004 02:02:55 PM new
Momoo...I am using AOL 9.0. Go to settings> internet options> AOL Browser> web graphics. Check the box that says "Never Compress". The default when installing AOL is to always compress graphics. This is great for the majority of users who send graphics to friends via email, but for Ebay sellers it's a disaster. It results in your already compressed .jpg being compressed again. And if you store it on Ebay's host it will be compressed a third time. By the time a bidder opens it up, there isn't much left to look at.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
 
 
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