neroter12
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posted on March 14, 2004 06:22:18 AM new
I dont know if this picture is clear enough to see the detail, but does anybody know the type of flowers these are? I am hoping they are Iris?
Thanks! 
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neglus
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posted on March 14, 2004 06:24:47 AM new
It's not clear - but they don't look like Iris..leaves are nothing like the iris spears for one thing. Sorry without seeing clearer pic can't tell what they are..might even be an artist's conception of generic flowers?
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neroter12
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posted on March 14, 2004 06:29:23 AM new
Neglus, I'll try to get a better pic. Seems the pottery is old or thats the way it came out the kiln. Thanks. Be right back.
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neroter12
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posted on March 14, 2004 06:42:26 AM new
nevermind, I got it. Thanks neglus for jarring my head this am!!
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cta
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posted on March 14, 2004 07:24:28 AM new
neroter - Don't know if you came to a conclusion on the flowers, but my first guess from the photo was Hibiscus.
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chimpchamp
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posted on March 14, 2004 08:16:26 AM new
They look like Pansies to me.
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neroter12
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posted on March 14, 2004 08:38:19 AM new
cta, I am pretty sure they are Irises. I cant get a much better picture right at the moment but I looked up Iris in google and pulled down some pictures to compare to the ones on the pottery. They have that same curvy, swirley type edge to the flower, and the yellow piece in the middle. I should have thought to do that before posting here. Neglus is certainly right: the artist def took some liberty here, bu t ithinkits enough to say they are Irises! lol.
Thanks, though!
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kiara
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posted on March 14, 2004 08:41:54 AM new
They don't look like irises to me. Plus the leaves are wrong.
Two of them almost look like roses to me.
[ edited by kiara on Mar 14, 2004 08:45 AM ]
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neroter12
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posted on March 14, 2004 08:46:12 AM new
No, Kiara you cant see it in the picture, but they are definately not roses. Its okay.
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kiara
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posted on March 14, 2004 08:58:06 AM new
I think it's a mix of flowers and like neglus says, the leaves are definitely not iris spears.
But if you insist they are irises, go for it. 
[ edited by kiara on Mar 14, 2004 08:58 AM ]
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cta
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posted on March 14, 2004 09:35:32 AM new
Here's a nice example of a Hisbiscus flower. They also have the yellow stamen coming out of the middle and hisbiscus flowers come in many different colors and shapes. Some are very frilly, others have softer edges.
And here are what the leaves look like:
[ edited by cta on Mar 14, 2004 09:37 AM ]
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neglus
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posted on March 14, 2004 09:35:42 AM new
Not to belabor this but THIS is an iris with petals hanging down and a few that hide the center and stand more or less upright...
and you can see the "spears" in this pic:
[ edited by neglus on Mar 14, 2004 09:41 AM ]
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Roadsmith
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posted on March 14, 2004 10:08:10 AM new
1000% sure they are NOT irises! Peonies, maybe.
I just watched a watercolor how-to show on PBS yesterday. Many of the flowers depicted on art objects and pottery are not realistic at all--just some artist's fantasy.
I can guarantee that most lookers at your auction will know immediately that the flowers aren't irises.
But--as Kiara suggests--you go right ahead and call them anything you want. Call them Elvira if you want to!
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neroter12
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posted on March 14, 2004 10:24:36 AM new
Neglus and CTA, thanks for the additional flower pictures. Here are somewhat better pictures of the flowers on the cup if it helps. I did see that there are quite a few varieties of the Iris and that usually the stems/leaves are long. I dont know if the artist took some liberty with the leaves, or it could be one of the two flowers you mentioned. But I appreciate your imput, thanks!
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on March 14, 2004 10:25:47 AM new
Sweetpeas.
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neroter12
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posted on March 14, 2004 10:30:00 AM new
Roadsmith, lol; so glad I have yours and Kiara's permission/blessings to call them what I want. I dont know what'd I do without it. Maybe I will call them Roses after all.
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Roadsmith
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posted on March 14, 2004 10:30:39 AM new
Okay, now the pink flower is looking more like a hibiscus to me. I give.
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neroter12
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posted on March 14, 2004 10:32:01 AM new
Thank you, Fluffy.
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rlewln
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posted on March 14, 2004 11:07:26 AM new
I agree, sweetpeas.....most definitely sweetpeas.
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kiara
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posted on March 14, 2004 11:12:24 AM new
Yes, definitely sweet peas. There are two ways of spelling sweetpea and sweet pea is the preferred spelling.
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photosensitive
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posted on March 14, 2004 11:22:31 AM new
Sweet peas. Fluffy is right. I thought sweet pea when I saw the first fuzzy picture. This one makes it certain.
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rlewln
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posted on March 14, 2004 11:38:23 AM new
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neroter12
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posted on March 15, 2004 04:57:55 AM new
Thank you to everyone for the clarification on these flowers.
And thanks Kiara for the spelling tips. I would not have known that.
This potter currently has two patterns of flowers they use. One is roses, which I knew this wasnt; and the other is Iris. Thats why I thought it must be Iris, in some funky form. But now I guess what I have a retired pattern. I can list it with the flowers name, but I dont think anybody's going to be looking at keyword sweatpea?? Maybe only MsLucy who is not working at listing anything but is busy burying digs in unrelated threads. (Ya gotta love this board, though!)
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