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 London4
 
posted on April 3, 2004 08:07:23 AM new
I just received an offer to purchase an item that I bid on but lost out by $1.00. ebay called it "second chance." Is this a new feature? I'm happy and I'm going to take the seller up on it but it seems unfair to the person who won the bid. The seller offered it to me for my bid price.

Maybe I'm missing something--does the seller have to offer it to the winning bidder at my price if the second chance offer is accepted?

 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 3, 2004 08:22:45 AM new
No, the seller does not have to offer it for the same price and I don't think is even possible

It could be the winner deadbeated or the seller has an extra one...






I am also surprised that you're going to buy, of all the second chance offers I have sent... none have responded... of course when that happens I block their bidding until the item sells.





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 London4
 
posted on April 3, 2004 08:27:23 AM new
Is there a reason NOT to buy? Isn't it still covered by the ebay guarantee as though I had been the winning bidder?

 
 toasted36
 
posted on April 3, 2004 08:57:17 AM new
I offer to the under bidder all the time if I have two or more of the same thing...beats the heck out relisting and hoping someone bids....you can still leave feedback and everything just like a regular sell.If you want the item the go for !

 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 3, 2004 09:25:34 AM new
No reason not to buy at all, personally I am glad to finally see someone take advantage of the second chance offer...

Makes me wonder why bidders bid, don't win but then when they get the second chance offer don't buy.



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 toasted36
 
posted on April 3, 2004 11:41:20 AM new
I thought the same thing at first Twelvepole but 2nd chance is one of those options you can turn on or off....so prolly alot have it turned off and never get your email

 
 fenix03
 
posted on April 3, 2004 12:13:15 PM new
Ever read the letter they send out? If it is supposed to help create sales it is by far the worst written piece of dreck ever seen.

Hey Ebay - we know one of you there reads these boards - how about actually offering the item to the customer first and then put in all of the anti fraud squawk. You are turning buyers off left and right with the the wording of the email.

Why do I get a page full of graphics and color in your announcements and yet an email whose only purpose is to create an additional sale and thusly generate more fees for you is presented in the least appealing format possible? You may not want the fees, but I would really like the sale.
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 earthmum
 
posted on April 3, 2004 03:32:53 PM new
When a seller does the "second chance" thingy, eBay makes a new auction and sends the link to the prospective second bidder, as a "Buy it Now." I have sent a couple out, but there was no response. I have responded as a buyer and got a really good deal on an antique diamond ring.

 
 stonecold613
 
posted on April 3, 2004 10:12:33 PM new
I am also surprised that you're going to buy, of all the second chance offers I have sent... none have responded..


I have about a 90% success rate with second chance. Could be the items you are offering.

 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 4, 2004 04:44:02 AM new
Must be stonecold... the other bidders are just bidding to get the price up for the winner...


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 dejapooh
 
posted on April 4, 2004 08:00:50 AM new
I find there is a direct relationship between the end of the first auction and the start of the Second Chance Auction. If I start the second chance within 2 minutes of the close of my first auction, it is accepted almost 50% of the time. If it is more then 10 minutes I go down to 33%. If it is more then 12 house, it is about 10%.
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. B. Franklin
 
 ladyjewels2000
 
posted on April 4, 2004 10:21:05 AM new
All of my items are one of a kind and I hate second chance. If you do it the way ebay wants - it's approximately 3 weeks to offer and means I have a NBP.
Just curious, Twelvepole, why to you block the bidder if they don't take the offer?? I have one to send out in a few days and if he/she doesn't take it - should I block them??
Thanks


 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 4, 2004 11:13:18 AM new
I do it because it pisses me off that I send out second chance and it is not responded to....


It may not be good "business" but I feel like they are causing me to list or in some cases relist an item (deadbeat) that they previously bid on.

They are probably hoping for a lower price, which is ok... just let them get it somewhere else.

However I am not dependent upon eBay for my lively hood so that may not be best for those that are.


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 fenix03
 
posted on April 4, 2004 11:34:58 AM new
Twelve - ever consider that when they were outbid on yours they bid on someone elses and now you are just blocking potential income out of pure spite? This surprises me since you are one o the few that has a business is business attiude on here and yet you are taking something this silly as some type of personal affront.




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 Libra63
 
posted on April 4, 2004 11:51:41 AM new
I had 3 of the same item. The one that I put up sold for $109.00. I didn't want to list two more so that that bidder knew I had more so I used the second chance offer twice on the same auction. The second bidder got it for the high bid she bid and the third got it for the bid she bid. I think there was only about $5.00 difference between the three. It is run like a regular auction but never shows in your record. You are charged the same by eBay. The listing fee which was 30 cents each and the final value fee. The only fees you weren't charged are the Vendio fees. I think your second chance offer has to go right away. If you delay they will bid on someone else's auction that has the same item.

I didn't use a second chance offer because a seller didn't send it for 24 hours and I found another seller with the same product and bid on hers as it was going off and I didn't want to miss the product.



 
 fenix03
 
posted on April 4, 2004 12:17:37 PM new
There is no "listing" fee on a second chance offer Libra. The only time you incur a fee is if the buyer accepts the offer.
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 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 4, 2004 12:22:21 PM new
Yeah but makes me feel better fenix...



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 fenix03
 
posted on April 4, 2004 01:58:51 PM new
LOL! At least you are honest.
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