posted on May 9, 2004 04:39:40 PM new
I'll bump this back up because my husband bought a copyright edition and asked me what that meant and I couldn't tell him. Waiting to hear also.
posted on May 9, 2004 05:06:31 PM new
Copyright edition
Copy, often abridged and/or only partially edited, printed prior to formal publication to establish and/or safeguard copyright - that is, to discourage publication of unauthorized or pirated editions. (Obsolete, largely 19th-century practice.)
This is a great site I have bookmarked for reference...
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posted on May 9, 2004 06:10:33 PM new
Wgm: I really like Bookthink; I've been printing his newsletters and piling them up to read when I have a few minutes. It's a great site.
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posted on May 9, 2004 06:14:40 PM new
interesting explanation. so copyright edition is actually before a first edition?
that would be why there is no copyright date? no year published?
posted on May 9, 2004 06:56:20 PM new
I think that's right, glassgrl. As I understand it, the publisher/author/whoever gets the book printed to copyright it as a way to protect their ideas from being copied, etc. Since it isn't the final edition, it isn't dated; plus it gives them time to edit as they wish. There isn't an actual date until the final copy is published. Or that's how I understand it anyway
Roadsmith - You are the first person I have heard that knows the site - I love it too! I have several friends that sell on eBay, and I have referred a few of them there. I have learned so much from the newsletters!
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posted on May 9, 2004 08:52:57 PM new
Wgm: Bookthink is also looking for donations right now, so we can keep it going. I'm going to send Paypal to them tonight. ~Adele
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posted on May 9, 2004 09:09:07 PM new
Am I understanding this correctly? It would seem to me that a copyright edition, because it's the original work, would be more valuable and sought after than a first edition, because of its rarity. Please forgive my ignorance, but my knowledge of books is limited to when the next issue of one of my ham radio magazines will arrive in my mail box or who will be the next Playboy centerfold.
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posted on May 10, 2004 06:49:26 AM new
can the content of a copyright edition be different than the first edition??
say if the writer decides to make some changes or add/delete some??
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posted on May 21, 2004 10:47:19 PM new
Thought I would push this up to top, here is a great site I just found, which gives just tons of definitions related to books. I was listing an old 1900-era bible with "Yapp Edges" and needed to find out exactly what they were -- this site has it all!
posted on May 22, 2004 08:56:45 AM new
Upriver: Thanks for that link. It looks rather valuable to have; I'm going to print it out (maybe) later - or at least read it all.
Only problem with it is that I'd have to know to look for "yapp edges" in order to know what I have in a book I'm selling, wouldn't I? But I guess if you're looking at a book to buy on ebay and it's advertised as having yapp edges, you could then look it up.
I've sold some books with those edges and wish I'd known then what to call them. So. . . thanks!
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posted on May 22, 2004 09:12:06 AM new It would seem to me that a copyright edition, because it's the original work,would be more valuable and sought after than a first edition, because of its rarity.
One might think so, however:
often abridged and/or only partially edited
I've never sold a copyright edition, however, "Proof" Copies, and saleman's dummies are not, generally speaking, more valuable.
In my experience these are only valuable if the particular author has a large following with obbessive collectors who want one copy of each edition that author ever published.
Examples include: Rand, Hemingway, Austin, and Alcott -- off the top of my head.
posted on May 22, 2004 09:19:44 AM new
Not that it matters, but.....
The edges of Yapp bindings are frequently called "Yapps" by bookbinders. I've never heard them called "Yapp edges", but maybe I'm hanging with the wrong crowd . "Yapps" was the term I used when looking for a broken one (to study the technique), next time I'll leave off the "s" and add edges and see if I actually find one.
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posted on May 22, 2004 12:02:15 PM new
May i suggest the following reading:
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ07d.html#what
Take special note to the statute now requiring mandatory deposit to the Library of Congress. As a further suggestion, please read "Best Edition of a Work."
posted on May 22, 2004 02:26:54 PM new
I have heard rumors that certain editions/versions are more valuable as the content may have been altered or removed in later publications such as the paris edition of occult books say by aleister crowley is worth more,same with certain grimoires published in france and italy.
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. "Yapps" was the term I used when looking for a broken one (to study the technique), next time I'll leave off the "s" and add edges and see if I actually find one.