ms24ktau
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posted on May 18, 2004 04:29:28 PM new
I have a friend (honestly, it isnt me) who has a vintage set of JARTS. She was going to offer them on eBay but discovered that they are "outlawed". She is afraid that if she should list them, the auction will be cancelled and she'll become suspect with eBay. Is there any way that anyone knows of to offer them?? I told her to sell the empty box and then just ship the contents with it, but she's not comfortable with that. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated
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gousainc-07
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posted on May 18, 2004 04:41:43 PM new
Be Careful.
[ edited by gousainc on May 18, 2004 08:04 PM ]
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tomwiii
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posted on May 18, 2004 06:22:54 PM new
Tis heartwarming to see someone who truly believes that lawyers are...needy??? 
http://www.cpsc.gov/CPSCPUB/PREREL/PRHTML97/97122.html
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Damariscotta
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posted on May 18, 2004 06:31:09 PM new
Is selling this set the only thing that might save your friend from having to live in their car? Just discard the darts, and if there are collectors for the box, sell that. If there are collectors for the darts themselves, let them get them somewhere else.
In this day and age, someone selling a child's game that involves flinging metal tip projectiles around is just looking for trouble.
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sparkz
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posted on May 18, 2004 06:40:41 PM new
There are two active auctions now for jarts. One is a newbie seller and he has it listed for 7 days. It's over $200.00 now. Ebay will end this auction and probably suspend the seller. There are a few closed auctions that were sold for $50.00 on buy it now after running only a few hours. I don't know why your friend would want to jeopardize her account to make a few bucks on something that is prohibited by Ebay and illegal. Does she know she can be held liable if someone hurts themselves with those?
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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Roadsmith
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posted on May 18, 2004 09:50:00 PM new
Never heard of this thing. Are Jarts a scary form of darts?
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OhMsLucy
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posted on May 18, 2004 10:16:34 PM new
Jarts are lawn darts. I think they came out in the '60s?? Horribly dangerous things. Kids have been hurt and even killed by them.
Been banned on eBay for a zillion...
Me
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stonecold613
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posted on May 18, 2004 10:26:30 PM new
Frankly I wouldn't even take the chance putting them on Ebay. Use Yahoo for those.
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Libra63
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posted on May 18, 2004 11:45:07 PM new
Now if she sells these Jarts and the buyer or one of his/her friends or family get hurt can they sue the seller???
Jarts are a lawn game. the jart is probably 7 inches in length with a two inch metal point and on the other end is like a regular dart. You throw them at a target across from you where probably young children are standing and if your aim is poor then you hit one of those children and they can become seriously hurt. Parents let their young children play with them by themselves and that is when the trouble starts. Get the picture Roadsmith, they are very dangerous.
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ms24ktau
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posted on May 19, 2004 07:26:31 AM new
You are all right...the more I read about them, the scarier they are. Thank you all for your input
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Japerton
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posted on May 19, 2004 10:24:21 AM new
http://home.att.net/~planetgarp/jarts.html
for inquiring minds...
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Libra63
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posted on May 19, 2004 10:26:56 AM new
Thanks, it never hurts to remind us of why we don't list certain items.
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photosensitive
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posted on May 19, 2004 01:25:45 PM new
I remember when they were popular. Our neighbor's kids had a set. I was in the house one day when I heard yelling and barking in the back yard. I ran out to find our schnauzer, who was very territorial, with her teeth latched onto the leg of a child who was climbing over the fence out of our yard. I almost fainted because I was so worried about the child and knew we were looking at a huge law suite. The neighbor came out and we questioned the child who was visiting. Fortunately he was not badly hurt. His tearful explanation was that he came over the fence to get his Jarts and the dog bit him for no reason. He and the neighbor's child were throwing the Jarts over the top of our garage into our yard. Sure enough there were three of the things sticking in the ground inches from our dog's favorite spot to nap. The neighbor told me not to worry that she would tell his parents that he got what was coming to him.
Sorry as I was about the child being bitten I was very relieved that our dog was not killed. The Jarts were confiscated and we never heard any thing from the child's parents.
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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micmic66
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posted on May 19, 2004 02:04:03 PM new
List them with a BIN and they go within 2hrs....You WILL NOT get suspended for the 1st offense............I did it
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Damariscotta
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posted on May 19, 2004 02:25:57 PM new
And while you're out yardsaling, pick up those old infant car seats - you can get them cheap and sell them to people who don't know about the recalls. Hey, a buck is a buck.
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micmic66
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posted on May 19, 2004 03:39:48 PM new
ANyone dumb enough to take a Jart in the ass should probably stay in bed to begin with....
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Damariscotta
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posted on May 20, 2004 12:12:22 PM new
Good point. And you could probably use the extra sleep.
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koto1
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posted on May 21, 2004 02:37:56 PM new
And while we're out protecting the stupid from themselves, let's ban all slingshots, BB guns, steel tip darts, rocks, and sharp sticks.
"Who's tending the bar?  Sniping works up a thirst"
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Damariscotta
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posted on May 21, 2004 03:04:38 PM new
The ban is not to protect the stupid from themselves; it is to protect bystanders from the stupid.
I would like to think that the recent replies are not serious, but then again, this is the eBay Outlook.
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micmic66
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posted on May 21, 2004 03:11:07 PM new
Damariscotta,
you take life a little to serious I think. Live life trying to escape injury and death and it will seek you out.....
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Japerton
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posted on May 21, 2004 06:01:47 PM new
It's the stupid 40 year old pot guts who need to flash back to their youth that need none of our sympathy.
...if anyone jarted my dog, they'd need a jartectomy
monkey time...
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All the monkeys aren't in the zoo,
Every day you meet quite a few,
So you see it's all up to you.
You can be better than you are,
You could be swingin' on a star
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Libra63
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posted on May 21, 2004 06:20:49 PM new
Three children have been killed by the steel tipped flying objects before the ban and the toys were used as weapons in a gang related murder in 1980 Post Falls, Id. They are no longer sold in the US and banned on eBay the internet auction site. Since 1997 thrift stores have been told by the Consumer Product Safety Commission to get rid of them. They were banned in 1988
[ edited by Libra63 on May 21, 2004 06:21 PM ]
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upriver
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posted on May 21, 2004 10:52:36 PM new
They are illegal and dangerous. This is from an article I found on the net:
Yes, lawn darts — known by many as jarts (javelin + darts), the name of their most popular manufacturer — are illegal in all 50 states. And Canada. Not only can they not be manufactured, they can’t even legally be sold at yard sales or flea markets. (The CPSC, after a boy was injured by an old set, even issued an official statement just last year that remaining jarts sets should be destroyed.)
On eBay, they’ve been relegated as banned items. Handguns get similar treatment. Escaping the games police, online sellers have resorted to hawking “the box only, with plastic replacement fins” for $30 initial bids. Right. Like people would escalate the bidding to three times the opening bid to buy the box and fins. Or they’ll sell a “collectible lawn dart game” with the all-caps caveat, “THIS SET IS BEING SOLD AS A COLLECTIBLE. IT IS NOT FOR USE BY CHILDREN AS IT COULD CAUSE SEROUS INJURY OR DEATH IF A CHILD WAS TO BE HIT BY ONE OF THESE THINGS.”
Whatever way you go -- they are illegal, simply as that -- whether you agree with it or not, that's the way it is.
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